Criterion Random Speculation Vol.3

[Cinesimilitude]

I'd love a Night Porter re-issue once HD arrives.

[denti alligator]

Where did that list of re-issue-worthy titles go?

[Cinephrenic]

Here!
I do think they are going to reissue Rules of the Game and Black Orpheus this next year because of the NEW Prints circulating.

[miless]

I thought that we went over the Rules of the Game thing earlier... the new print was made from the digital restoration that is on the DVD (at least that's how I heard it)...

Black Orpheus, on the other hand... bring it on!

[Nadsat]

My vote for a reissure would go to "Nights of Cabiria".

Why? It's not that bad looking. It's progressive, too, isn't it?

Well, is it not a disaster but I think the image looks very harsh and some scenes looks very posterized. And is not progressive but it's encoded Alternate (what that means?)

[Rich Malloy]

I thought that we went over the Rules of the Game thing earlier... the new print was made from the digital restoration that is on the DVD (at least that's how I heard it)...

Is this in fact the case?

Andrew O'Hehir claims that the touring print is superior to the Criterion transfer:

The new, digitally restored 35mm print of "Rules of the Game" is now playing at Film Forum in New York, with a national rollout to follow. There is also a restored version available on DVD from Criterion Collection, but the new print is of superior quality.

[Cinephrenic]

I also got the information in the new entertainment weekly magazine on the film. I'll quote it later when I find it.

[HerrSchreck]

We've been thru all this before folks... as for O-ha-heh-Heihir at Salon, if he really did say it looks better than the disc, he either doesn't know nipples from a dungmound, or he's merely noting the difference in resolution in representations of the same restoration filtered thru two mediums: 1) the digitial restoration compressed and stored onto dvd and watched on a television... or 2) the restoration uncompressed and transferred to 35mm touring fine-grains which naturally contain more detail & rez. But the whole POINT of this exposition of the film is to Finally Give Folks The Opportunity To See The Film In It's Miraculously Restored State In The Cinema For The Very First Time.

That's never happened since the disc came out.

[zedz]

What Schreck said.

There is also a restored version available on DVD from Criterion Collection, but the new print is of superior quality

New 35mm print looks better than a DVD?! Stop the presses!

[portnoy]

Believe it or not, most people don't know shit about the relative quality of dvds and 35mm prints, especially a casual Salon reader. They don't print this shit for the .05%.

[HerrSchreck]

Therefore, with the knowledge that the other 95% who comprise his audience don't know that any film is naturally higher rez than it's corresponding transfer on a dvd, why point it out in those terms to the ignorant, as though there were a possibility that the print might not look better than the disc?

Look at how many folks on this site are thinking that there is going to be a new disc because of the foolish phrasing of the Salon statement.

You understand what I'm getting at here? If a knowledgable person is knowingly speaking to an audience that he knows doesn't know the meaning of an assertion, why not qualify it for that benefit? Guys like me zedz & Matt have been going on and on about this as new readers keep popping in offa various zones bubbling enthusiasticaly after reading Salon saying "We're gonna get a new REGLE!!", and we're not paid fucking "film journalists" making a living offa this stuff.

Conclusion: that nimbus at Salon is completely in the dark re the dif between a fine grain and a dvd struck from that fine grain. He's not a member of that hypothetical .05%

[a.khan]

Mr. Turell was kind enough to clear up the speculation around David Fincher's unsung masterpiece "The Game":

Unfortunately, we have not been able to secure DVD rights to The Game. As you know we had it on laserdisc, but no luck so far for DVD. We'll keep trying.

[Lino]

I've got the R2 SE and I'm perfectly happy with that. This is not a movie I need to see Criterion handling as the current DVD is excellent.

[justeleblanc]

Mr. Turell was kind enough to clear up the speculation around David Fincher's unsung masterpiece "The Game":

Unfortunately, we have not been able to secure DVD rights to The Game. As you know we had it on laserdisc, but no luck so far for DVD. We'll keep trying.

Can we talk about how wonderful Turell has been with clearing up rumors.... there's a spring in my step when I walk to work.

[Jeff]

I just hope that after Mr. Turell was generous enough to post his email address, people don't start treating him like he's the new Mulvaney.

[justeleblanc]

That's my hope as well. And I assume people have been asking about the "Stalled Ex-Certainties" that have recently been removed from this forum's Big List?

[tryavna]

Did anybody catch the showing of Miss Julie on IFC Tuesday evening and/or Friday morning? I've recorded it and hope to see it over the weekend. When I took a quick look at it, it looked like a fairly new transfer with the typical subtitles CC are now using. I believe this was included in the "Essential Art House" set, so I'd imagine it's pretty safe to assume it's in the pipeline.

[Greathinker]

Is Fires on the Plain going to be released separately or will it remain exclusive to the Janus box?

[justeleblanc]

Does anyone know anything about the new print for Belle De Jour and whether or not this will have an effect on a possible Criterion Release?

[LightBulbFilm]

CRITERION TOLD ME THEY ARE WORKING ON A FEW JARMUSCH TITLES FOR A 2007 RELEASE!

[Rupert Pupkin]

Does anyone know anything about the new print for Belle De Jour and whether or not this will have an effect on a possible Criterion Release?

judging to the bonus and artwork with logo StudioCanal it seems that it is a uk release of the StudioCanal edition in French (a whole box set is out there).
Picture quality is stunning (definitely, significantly better than the Miramax z1) + bonus are interesting (feauting J.C Carrière interview, + Deneuve talking about the movie - on stage = at the time they were shooting it; gorgeous I'm still hoping for a Criterion treatment though.

Btw, the transfer of the StudioCanal release is anamorphic and is the same than their first release of Belle de Jour (they only have changed the menus) in slim digipack case with "Studio" logo on the top.

[a.khan]

CRITERION TOLD ME THEY ARE WORKING ON A FEW JARMUSCH TITLES FOR A 2007 RELEASE!

Please be "Dead Man." Please be "Dead Man."

[Derek Estes]

Stranger Than Paradise would be my first pick. Just some really random speculation/dreaming. I wish Criterion would wrangle Frank Borzage's Seventh Heaven away from Fox.

[HerrSchreck]

Please be "Dead Man." Please be "Dead Man."

I just watched DEAD MAN last week and, with an unexpected chemical assist, was laughing so hard during parts of that film I could hardly see or breathe. Seeing Mitchum that old, in that part, just killed me also.

Just some really random speculation/dreaming. I wish Criterion would wrangle Frank Borzage's Seventh Heaven away from Fox

Just remember it'll probably be an interlaced disc. Silents from CC doesn't necc mean the same as it does elsewhere. I'd rather see an MoC.

[Tommaso]

Yep, "Dead Man" would be wonderful. Just think of all the possible extras: a documentary on William Blake, some of his paintings in a photo gallery. And the film is marvellous, very funny but at the same time sombre and spiritual. I think Jarmusch never really reached those heights again in later films.