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colinr0380
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Re: Paul Schrader

#226 Post by colinr0380 »

I think this all just suggests that, rather than being at the cutting edge, that Schrader is only just catching up IRL to where Spike Jonze was with Her over a decade ago.
Stefan
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Re: Paul Schrader

#227 Post by Stefan »

By the way, to whom it may concern, German film literature will FINALLY see (next month) the very first translation of Schrader's book. Hallelujah! It only took 54 years after the first US-edition.
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Re: Paul Schrader

#228 Post by pistolwink »

This is kind of mean, but my first thought when I read Schrader's post about how impressed he was at the "ideas" for films generated by AI was that his last few scripts read a lot like what an AI might produce should you have fed it scripts by Paul Schrader.

I don't recall if this site has a rule against AI in posts, even if it's acknowledged, but I asked Gemini to pitch me some ideas for future Paul Schrader films and I'm not sure if I could distinguish these fakes from the real, unintentionally self-parodic summaries of e.g. Master Gardener. See for example:
The Arbitrageur
A high-frequency commodity trader operating from a dark basement apartment in Chicago manipulates agricultural futures, disconnected from the physical reality of the food supplies he trades. His isolation is absolute until he begins a platonic relationship with an idealistic community organizer trying to save an urban farm from foreclosure by the trader's own firm. As his internal journal details his growing disgust with global financial abstraction, he leverages his insider access to execute an illegal, catastrophic market trade designed to crash his firm's stock, trading his personal freedom to wipe out the local community's debt.
It's only missing the part where the couple experience a conjoined epiphany surrounded by computer-generated expressionist imagery.
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Re: Paul Schrader

#229 Post by Stefan »

I watched "The Card Counter" again yesterday and was amazed by how much Schrader was stealing from himself and made a poor man's Travis Bickle out of his main character.
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Gregory
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Re: Paul Schrader

#230 Post by Gregory »

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Re: Paul Schrader

#231 Post by willoneill »

I don’t believe him either, but even if I did, this would still be one of the worst possible reasons to use A.I.
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The Narrator Returns
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Re: Paul Schrader

#232 Post by The Narrator Returns »

They need to bring back whatever A24 lackey was holding him at gunpoint to not say/do evil shit during First Reformed campaigning, maybe this time just to fire the gun.
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#233 Post by Lowry_Sam »

Regardless of the plausibilty of such a statement, the fact that he made such a statement publicly indicates a level of cluelessness that doesn't bode well for his project, much less the fact that he's alienating people before the film is even completed. He'll need a really good PR firm to sell his film now.
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Matt
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#234 Post by Matt »

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Gregory
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#235 Post by Gregory »

I've seen no one surprised by this, but it's going to be something to watch
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blueyes
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Re: Paul Schrader

#236 Post by blueyes »

The Narrator Returns wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2026 10:10 pm They need to bring back whatever A24 lackey was holding him at gunpoint to not say/do evil shit during First Reformed campaigning, maybe this time just to fire the gun.
This is not funny and this site is quickly going to be undistinguishable from social networks flooded with morons if this kind of remark gets normalized. There are already, across the threads, more quick replies with nothing of value to add than otherwise. What a shame.
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HinkyDinkyTruesmith
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Re: Paul Schrader

#237 Post by HinkyDinkyTruesmith »

As you note there’s plenty of “valueless” comments across the threads. I don’t think this one is egregious. I think it’s shameful how much support and press Schrader still gets. The prestige and holiness accorded to art and art-making is a bunker for racist and misogynistic men to hide in, and it’s the only reason we still hear from Schrader who spends his days chumming with prolific rapist James Toback and trying to underpay specifically female assistants to do shit work.
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The Narrator Returns
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#238 Post by The Narrator Returns »

It was a glib remark but I stand by it for the reasons HinkyDinkyTruesmith outlines. I love a lot of Schrader movies but there’s no reason at this point to provide cover and respect for, at best, a racist and misogynist troll (indeed not unlike many of his characters). I would hope I’ve posted here enough and thoughtfully enough that I wouldn’t be accused of singlehandedly lowering the intelligence of this forum, and I think that the deference to and walking-on-eggshells with shitty men who’ve made great movies is more of an issue here than any gallows one-liner could be.
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Re: Paul Schrader

#239 Post by pizza time! »

It's crazy that the guy who made First Reformed wants to make a feature film with AI.

His performative male brooding is exhausting enough with real actors.
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