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Come to think of it, I'm not certain if, at the moment that Lorincz admits to the shooting, she is officially in custody or just at the Sheriff's office for questioning. For a movie at least implicitly intended as an indictment of "stand your ground" laws, the movie seems far less interested in the actual details of arrest, charges, prosecution, etc. than in showing traumatized and grieving children.
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I was very impressed with Train Dreams, which appears to have flown a bit under the radar when compared to Netflix’s other awards season titles for this year. It’s a surprisingly extremely faithful adaptation of Denis Johnson’s novella, and Joel Edgerton’s performance is admirably restrained but credible. Very indebted to Malick and The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, and its rural Idaho setting recalls Housekeeping a bit as well, although there are magical realist touches that are wholly its own.
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I'm not sure how much there is to say about Splitsville, but to be on-brand, I admired how messy the structure is at reflexively conveying the messiness of relationships. This is a movie that moves fluidly in a manner I'm not used to, like a series of half-start vignettes that all begin or end in media res before moving onto the next. It's pretty bizarre, but it works under the context of relationships creating and breaking new and old rules constantly. Where this all leads is to relatable insecurities and failures, and I admired how the seemingly-directionless schema landed in such an appropriate place for these characters, who are pretty well-developed considering the chaotic composition. For all its unconventional narrative elisions, the film continuously arrives at states of normalization, validating the challenges navigating interpersonal conflict and emotions involved. There's a consistent return to comfort juxtaposed with that disorder, making it all go down smooth. A creative strategy. I wasn't blown away, but I was left curious and excited how ambitious Michael Angelo Covino will get with future projects.
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#80 Post by TheTreeSong »

After the Hunt: Good Julia Roberts performance, everything else quite dreadful. The painfully heavy handed dialogue, oof. Guadagnino is completely wrong for this material (and should probably just take a break in general). And I had to laugh at the Woody Allen homage in the credits. Say what you want about Allen, but his version of this would've been an hour shorter.
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#81 Post by therewillbeblus »

I thought Garfield was far and away the standout performer with a bite-sized part, but he did a lot with the little he had.

Ultimately I didn't like this either, but there are some interesting ideas on the table and I like the New Yorker reading that it's best viewed as a "period piece" from 2019. It's just that the ideas are communicated in such a flat way that every time something exciting seems to happen, it gets undercut by a new, narrower idea. The film postures at having something to say about the way we function and engage in cognitive dissonance, but ultimately doesn’t really. It's too all over the place with what it wants to cover, so we get drive-by provocations that aren't nurtured and feel empty upon delivery. Even Roberts' reveal of her past carries a curious punch, but it's just left there. Which would be fine if the movie wasn't spinning around trying so hard for its entire runtime to 'say' stuff without taking the time to really flesh out any arguments. And for a film about a bunch of philosophers, that's pretty ironic.
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#82 Post by hearthesilence »

Finally saw Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere and a slight hunch paid off when Springsteen appeared as a surprise guest - the highlight of the evening.

I don't know any other cinephiles (or rather other, younger cinephiles who aren't part of Springsteen's generation) who love his work, and it's not really a surprise until I recall how much his work is tied up with American cinema from the studio era to the New Hollywood. This is a guy whose ad-libs during his stage act inspired DeNiro's most famous improvisation in Taxi Driver, and in turn Paul Schrader approached him about a film project that sure enough inspired the title song of his best-known album. Springsteen also famously drew inspiration from Hollywood cinema from John Ford to The Night of the Hunter to Terrence Malick's Badlands when it came to writing his most enduring songs. (At one point, when Springsteen and Landau were looking for album titles, they tried picking them from Andrew Sarris's The American Cinema: Directors and Directions 1929-1968, and Landau picked a perfect one in Borzage's History Is Made at Night - there's at least a dozen great outtakes from the Born in the USA sessions alone that would've added up to a great and fitting album for that title.) When he began making promotional films and then music videos in the 1980s, he even enlisted established film auteurs like John Sayles, Schrader and Brian DePalma, still a rarity then.

Anyway, despite the criticisms I've heard elsewhere, I gave this a try, and while the production itself hits its marks, I think the basic script was too flawed for this to ever work - too many elements appear to be at odds with each other, and I was left with the impression that the ideas are never effectively dramatized. Pains me to say this because the film - especially the album involved - obviously meant a lot to everyone involved given the comments made during the post-screening discussion.

The most astute observation I've heard came from a few critics like Greil Marcus:
Greil Marcus wrote:...I found myself irritated and dumbfounded that out of all the fulsome discussion of the film, except for a line at the end of the always incisive Richard Brody’s review in The New Yorker, and, yesterday, Carl Wilson at the end of his Slate review, it was being taken as solely a picture about a personal crisis, when at the time, in 1982, the Nebraska album seemed so plainly a matter of a person addressing himself to a social and political crisis, and trying to paint a picture of a nation whose cords were fraying, or being ripped up and out as a social and political project...
Even Springsteen himself affirmed this in his handwritten liner notes to his 1995 Greatest Hits compilation, so it's startling to see that political context virtually absent in the world of 1982. Marcus does claim that a glimpse of it comes back when we see them record "Born in the U.S.A." in the studio, specifically for one lyric, but I can't really agree with that - that whole scene is driven by a sense of joyousness, in the band as they play it and in the observers in the control booth, realizing they're witnessing something great...which they later only discuss in terms of a "hit" record. I never got the sense that the film was letting the song speak for itself, if anything it was glossing over what the song was about and framed it only as Springsteen's key to massive commercial success. The hardship and even the war that inspired it are never seen, mentioned or heard - though Springsteen clearly gets the title lyric from Schrader's script, the title page is the ONLY information we get from that proposed film.

But even the personal focus has its own problems. When it comes to the struggle of realizing Nebraska, the film never finds a way to show that powerfully in cinematic fashion - too much is explained rather than shown, and it didn't have to be that way. There are moments where I wondered why they didn't juxtapose the results laid down in the studio against the demo tape instead of relying on Springsteen complaining that it's not coming together. It's as if they don't believe in the music enough to simply show how it sounds right where the new recordings do not. (And again, everyone involved in the film clearly believed in the music, which makes it all the more frustrating.)

A similar issue plagues the film's depiction of Springsteen's growing struggles with depression, and as a result, I didn't feel a genuine build to the climax. For example, we understand Springsteen is going through a tough time, but beyond the flashbacks, the depths of that struggle isn't fully depicted - once again, a lot of it is simply explained. For example, when his girlfriend tells him she sees how he's scared of hurting them, it struck me how that impression is never made in the film whenever we see these characters together - maybe we're supposed to infer it from the previous flashbacks to his painful childhood, but it's a huge assumption to make without seeing anything that concrete in their relationship aside from her complaining that he hasn't called.

Paradoxically, the story actually has elements worth explaining - the visits to his abandoned childhood home did happen and dramatically it comes across as an effective idea, but Springsteen never understood why he was compelled to do this until he sought an explanation in therapy. In the way he tells it in some of his best onstage monologues, he had to push his therapist for an answer because he wasn't going to come up with one himself, and hearing it laid out for him is powerful. It's a case where something spoken doesn't feel like it's expository because it's played against something the speaker is experiencing rather than taking the place of the experience itself.

Springsteen has famously discussed his struggles throughout his career, and it was only in recent years that he's gone into great detail about going into therapy. The impression he leaves is someone who's finally overwhelmed by crippling depression after the illusion of being a pillar of strength ultimately crumbles - when he makes that very first visit, it's essentially a dam breaking where he finally allows a lifetime of pain and trauma to flow uncontained. I can see how that's supposed to come across in the film, but in terms of impact, I thought it fell short.
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#83 Post by T!me »

Got to watch Sound of Falling yesterday and it was so much better than anticipated.

Although I’m not sure if I find the at times excessive use of voice-over necessary, I adored how the film came together the longer it went on. What begins as vignettes of different glimpses of (female) hardship steadily develops into a mosaic of generational trauma, the intertwined tradition of rural and familial life and the fluctuating boundaries between allowed and forbidden (hidden) spaces. The POVs of various teen girls (thanks to an astonishing camera work) bind all those aspects together and make the film a coherent whole.

It was at times also way funnier than one would think of such a film. One woman in my theatre had a laughing fit in response to the scene of the 1980s mother’s birthday that infected the whole crowd.
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hearthesilence wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:42 am Finally saw Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere
This is a very thoughtful overview of the many missteps that severely weaken Deliver Me From Nowhere (I really dislike that Springsteen’s name is situated ahead of this otherwise very good title). I will only add how disappointed I was with the obvious commercial considerations in needle drops that work against what the story should be trying to tell. Specifically, the band version of “Born in the U.S.A.” is presented in the well-known arrangement released in 1984 instead of the far more harrowing and rawer version actually recorded in 1982 (when the film takes place). As heard on the new Nebraska Expanded set, this track is a revelation in how it expresses the rage of a Vietnam war veteran unable to find his way back home. The darker, edgier arrangement/performance is a much better fit for the subject matter than the version released two years later and would probably have never been co-opted by the Reagan campaign had it not been disguised in the slicker production. At any rate, the earlier arrangement is the one we should have been presented with in the film.

Even more inexplicable, it makes no sense whatsoever to present a montage about the care taken to master the Nebraska album to overcome some of the limitations of it being recorded on a four-track cassette accompanied by a polished studio track from two years later on the soundtrack. Of course, this decision is clearly based on the popularity of Springsteen’s “I’m On Fire” single and the concern that a viewer not familiar with the very material the film is about will be treated to something more recognizable.
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#85 Post by hearthesilence »

Roger Ryan wrote: Tue Nov 25, 2025 8:08 pm Even more inexplicable, it makes no sense whatsoever to present a montage about the care taken to master the Nebraska album to overcome some of the limitations of it being recorded on a four-track cassette accompanied by a polished studio track from two years later on the soundtrack. Of course, this decision is clearly based on the popularity of Springsteen’s “I’m On Fire” single and the concern that a viewer not familiar with the very material the film is about will be treated to something more recognizable.
I found that very strange too and a poor choice. If they needed something with a quicker tempo, they could've used "Open All Night" which gave the movie its very title - it even has imagery that plays into the montage (music being delivered to a listener like salvation answering a prayer, the verse about the woman who works at a Big Boy being the singer's significant other).
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TheTreeSong wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 3:30 am After the Hunt: Good Julia Roberts performance, everything else quite dreadful. The painfully heavy handed dialogue, oof. Guadagnino is completely wrong for this material (and should probably just take a break in general). And I had to laugh at the Woody Allen homage in the credits. Say what you want about Allen, but his version of this would've been an hour shorter.
This is on Netflix now, and I would have completely missed it if the wife didn't flag the Guadagnino credit. Agree that this can be skipped, with the Woody Allen jab being the cleverest part of the proceedings. I'm pretty ambivalent on post-fame Guadagnino anyways, but enjoyed his series "We Are Who We Are" from 2020 the most since Bigger Splash. It says something when 8 hours of television manages to generate more moral ambiguity and nuance than a feature.
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#87 Post by therewillbeblus »

The Woody Allen credits were amusing, but the idea that it's a 'jab' is annoying. Do people think Guadagnino is throwing shade at Allen by using his credit sequences, just because the content of the film is about #metoo? I feel like it could easily be a love letter considering the film plays out a lot like one of his crime thrillers, and the film itself is ambiguous about its position on the topic.
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#88 Post by Zot! »

therewillbeblus wrote: Tue Dec 02, 2025 12:12 am The Woody Allen credits were amusing, but the idea that it's a 'jab' is annoying. Do people think Guadagnino is throwing shade at Allen by using his credit sequences, just because the content of the film is about #metoo? I feel like it could easily be a love letter considering the film plays out a lot like one of his crime thrillers, and the film itself is ambiguous about its position on the topic.
He has confirmed it as both https://variety.com/2025/film/news/luca ... 236501824/. For me Julia Robert's presence also drew attention to it, as she had previously worked with Allen, and she was present at that presser and similarly said words to that effect. And yeah, I think if this movie had any point (and trappings) it was to address this topic in the context of the east coast intellectual milieu that Allen usually depicts, so the comparison is kind of unavoidable. Again, I say this as a detractor of this movie, which I agree is mostly crap.
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Predator Badlands felt like a regression after Prey. I like the idea of making the Predator the hero and dropping him on a hostile planet but I had a lot of issues with where they took the story from that starting point. Too much of the Yautya on monster action felt weightless because of the CGI and I found the design of the Kalisk in particular really boring. I like Elle Fanning who is good in her (double) role(s) but the writers gave the Thia twin too many flippant lines which helped in watering down the tone. I can accept that the filmmakers may have wanted something more palatable for a wider audience and that it's on me for wanting something harsher and more alien (I don't mean xenomorphs, I mean alien as in utterly foreign and difficult to classify) in both design and tone, but the film also resorts to positing Weyland-Yutani as the real threat instead of the Kalisk; again, Weyland Yutani as the antagonist that's dull and stagnant. The way the Kalisk plot resolves is part of a broader idea about being part of something bigger, a homily about family, but to me, that doesn't feel at home in this series. Related to that, Dek gets a second sidekick with big cutesy eyes which I found the most jarring. The film's closing line is consistent with the story they wanted to tell, and it's played for laughs, but I rolled my eyes at it.
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Finch wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 10:39 pm Predator Badlands felt like a regression after Prey...
For me, Predator Badlands is the clearest indicator of what it means for Disney acquiring the 20th Century Fox catalog and properties. I feel no particular love for the Predator franchise and feel no need to defend it, but this film is Disney's transparent attempt to remake Predator into a Star Wars vehicle and is reduced to copying those tropes: the "Predator" becomes a Han Solo-like character teamed up with a Baby Yoda and a wise-cracking android in the C3P0 mode. To that end, there is some entertainment to be found in the early action scenes and the moments that recall Enemy Mine (another lift or influence, take your pick), but as Finch notes, the sloppy CGI and overreliance on medium close-ups makes the big climatic battle incomprehensible and Dek practically rolling his eyes and slapping his forehead in reaction to his sidekicks' antics is not the kind of tonal shift that suggests this franchise has a promising future.
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#91 Post by beamish14 »

Did anyone here take a chance on James L. Brooks’ Ella McCay? He gave an incredibly tone-deaf and silly interview with the Los Angeles Times last week that seemed to be a harbinger of the quality of it, and some of the Letterboxd reviews are just brutal. It seems to paint a nostalgic picture of 2008 in America, which is lunacy.
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#92 Post by The Narrator Returns »

The 2008 nostalgia is like one line of Julie Kavner voiceover, almost all of the other period dressing is reminders that they’re in a recession or Ella being a classic model of the 2000s liberal scold (but lovably so). I liked it quite a bit but it’s casually very strange in the same way as the other maligned James L. Brooks movies; most of the actual plot is sped through like an epilogue while the actual climax is Ella’s little brother trying desperately to get back with Ayo Edebiri. I dunno if anyone here besides Domino fucks with “late” period Brooks (five movies out of seven at this point) but if you can roll with those, there should be a lot to enjoy and be moved by here. Emma Mackey is a star in the making, she’s born for screwball (even a particularly odd strain of it) and I’m glad Greta Gerwig might be the next one to showcase that.
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If I were to go see it - and I might or might not this week, which surely will be the only week it plays locally - the main appeal for me would be Albert Brooks. He pops up less and less these days, and while I don't want to be morbid, he's at an age where any given role might be his last, whether by his own choice or otherwise.

The trailer sure makes it all look pretty dreary, though, and whatever charms Mackey has are not apparent in it.
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F1 — Now That's What I Call Cinema! Joseph Kosinski is clearly the best match with Bruckheimer since Tony Scott, so it's fitting that together they've made a sequel to Top Gun and what could conceivably be a sequel to Days of Thunder. Michael Bay (god love him) had a tendency to go way over the top, which is essentially what made his films enjoyable and distinctive, but it's also what ended up toppling him (cf. Pearl Harbor). Kosinski, like Scott, knows how to stay steady at the helm and deliver a satisfying movie. Bruckheimer films are, at their best, like the Snickers bar of cinema. You know what you're going to get, and it delivers exactly what you want. It's junk, but it's delicious and filling junk, and you're briefly happier for having consumed it.

There's not a single unforeseen beat in this movie, and everything is telegraphed beforehand, spoon-fed to you as it's happening, and briefly summarized for you afterwards. But it never felt insulting to my intelligence. In fact, it feels good to just sit back and enjoy it and not have to do any work.

If there's any criticism I have of the film, it's that the filming of the driving does not have the thrill and novelty of Grand Prix (an otherwise dull film). This film cannot go more than a few seconds without cutting, so all of the driving scenes are chopped to bits. There are still some breathtaking moments like the shots from a camera mounted on the car frame that swivels from what's behind the car to the driver's face, and a 3-second pit stop that has probably 20 or so shots in it and yet it's perfectly legible and thrilling. There is no place that Michael Bay would not stick a camera, so it's a little disappointing that we don't get enough of that audacity and ingenuity here. But, as I said above, a little of that goes a long way.

Watching a mainstream action movie like this really opens your eyes to how much the Marvelization of action movies has lowered expectations over the last decade or so. Instead of having your eyes glaze over watching gray CGI slop, you get some actual reality and stakes and set pieces and tension.
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It’s an interesting coincidence that two of my favorite discoveries from this year both feature actors who undergo remarkable physical transformations: 100 Yen Love and Magazine Dreams. The latter was supposed to get a major rollout and become an awards contender during the 2025 cycle, but star/executive producer Jonathan Majors assaulting his partner put the kibosh on all of that. It’s truly one of the most uncomfortable and horrifying films I’ve ever watched; a descent into the hell of living with Body Dysmorphic Disoder, being a Black man who feels compelled to apologize for merely existing, and the toxicity of online culture. Please seek this one out.
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I had recently caught up with The Mastermind and Die My Love. The first is my first Kelly Reichardt film, and I was honestly impressed with the sustained, critical, jazzy slow-burn rhythm of the film.

For Die My Love, my second Ramsay film after You Were Bever Really Here, the psychological poetry of Ramsay’s mode is very apt. A little mannered but this intensity and weirdness works.

I loved both.
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This might not be the ideal place for this, but recent cultural/political events made one of Seymour Hersh's big (though possibly lesser known) stories look more interesting and unsettling in hindsight. In Laura Poitras and Mark Obenhaus's new film Cover-Up, Hersh's investigation into Gulf + Western's ownership of Paramount (among other things) is given only a few minutes, mostly to set up why he left the New York Times, but it's basically how Gulf + Western owned a ton of stuff outside of their main business of manufacturing and resource extraction (mining, oil drilling, chemical production, etc.) It gave a smokescreen for the money running through the conglomerate, making it tough to trace and likely for dubious reasons.

For all of its glamour, the money made in the movie business is dwarfed by the industries Gulf + Western primarily focused on. And movies weren't considered all that profitable when Gulf + Western bought Paramount - the studio was actually losing a ton of money and whatever money there was to be made was likely in its real estate holdings and selling or licensing its pre-existing library, assets Gulf + Western would indeed exploit.

What's really fascinating is how this arguably helped jump start the New Hollywood, which isn't covered in the documentary (and for good reason, it's a story better served by another film). IIRC one of Peter Bogdanovich's many impressions was Gulf & Western chairman Charles Bluhdorn, which he did when recalling how Bluhdorn told him he knew nothing about movies, he only knew about oil and chemicals, etc. With all that in mind, it's not a stretch to think Gulf + Western was pretty comfortable letting the studio make whatever it wanted as long as it wasn't too ridiculous like literally setting piles of money on fire. There's probably little doubt that all this paved the way for Paramount's illustrious run from the late 1960s through the early 1980s.

Obviously what Paramount is up to these days has little to do with producing lasting art, but the story still comes to mind when looking at arthouse and/or auteur fare elsewhere, where so much of the money is coming directly or indirectly from contentious sources (see recent debates about MUBI, Saudi investors, and many others).
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Much of that also goes for Kinney and WB—from all accounts Steve Ross was hands-off with the studio and let Ted Ashley and his team run it as they saw fit. I feel we're worse off now that studios are no longer targets for conglomerates in unrelated industries keen to get into show biz, but are just consolidating with each other instead. I suspect the outcomes of the Seagram–MCA and AOL–Time Warner deals were a factor there.
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David Ehrlich's Video Countdown and its charity gofundme link.
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The Voice of Hind Rajab: While this is a good film and you should see it for its political content and message (though it is worthwhile entirely independent of that), I can see why some of the Venice jury were cautious about a full-throated endorsement of it - and not even because it uses the actual audio from the call, which appears to have been, after an initially hostile reaction, endorsed by the deceased girl's mother. Even though the film is well-made and engaging, it probably explains, codes, and signals too much for a docudrama set in the world of seasoned professionals. There are a few moments where putting explanatory words or actions in the mouths of the main characters enhances the film as a film (the most prominent one being the convoluted explanation of the ambulance approval process being explained alongside an increasingly frenetic drawing of a figure-eight-shaped interlinkage of the different institutions required to approve the dispatch of paramedics), but too many of the frustrations aired by the aid workers, while extremely understandable and likely accurate to some part of their service, are framed in a way to aid digestion by Western audiences. The most problematic attitudes are expressed by the call technicians who take the lead in speaking to Rajab, who spend most of their time outside of their real conversation with her piling abuse upon their supervisor for not taking an extremely dangerous route out of the problem. (At one point literally every other speaking character in the story is yelling at him for not making a request that would risk the lives of the people he would ask to fulfill it.) I'm not saying these two didn't express these sentiments to the supervisor, but the intensity of their emotional reactions at once takes the acting style closer to a more conventional dramatic production and implies a lower degree of competence than their real-life counterparts likely displayed by suggesting an unfamiliarity with the protocols of their organization. The film's smaller moments - two emotionally-exhausted characters playing a shooter video game as a distraction, one character's mockery of the Red Crescent's posting of material about Hind Rajab in English - are at once more memorable and reflect a more complicated and altogether cynical (and justifiably so) attitude towards the West held by these people, one that the film ultimately biases away from by virtue of it being made to communicate a message to people in the West.

All this said, the sequences depicting the call itself, void of flashy acting and with unpolished, rote dialogue (the call technicians racking their brains to run through scripts they can use to keep a child alive and on the line), are extremely affecting, more so than the thriller that surrounds them. They are as powerful a rendition I've seen of an experience that has become all too common among people across the spectrum from front-line workers to activists to mere social media users: the sense of powerlessness one gets when one watches a horrible, sometimes graphic or grotesquely cruel, injustice happening as a consequence of a rotten government's unchecked power. If anything, they are excellent proof that the film did not need its more conventional intense gestures to convey the intensity or importance of its subject matter. On Letterboxd, one of the top reviews of the film simply reads "Not a single word should be spent trying to intellectualise this film. It speaks for itself. Free Palestine." I agree with one of those three sentences, but only one.

For those here who are in that world, I am also curious to know what they think of the depiction of either EMS staff or what are essentially crisis therapists in the film
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