Mektoub, My Love: Canto Uno / Intermezzo / Canto Due (Abdellatif Kechiche, 2017-2025)

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Re: Mektoub, My Love: Canto Uno & Intermezzo (Abdellatif Kechiche, 2017/2019)

#101 Post by Never Cursed »

therewillbeblus wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:46 am
furbicide wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 3:47 am Psst, Abdellatif, buddy … ever heard of a little something we like to call "backchannels"?
I'll be surprised if these ever materialize there. If they won't be 'released' anywhere, it's hard to imagine, unless someone with access to both the prints and the channels chooses to do so at risk, but there's a big difference between an old title like Stop! with less eyes on it getting upped by some noble saint than this debacle
All this is true, plus I can't imagine that, as the current owner of the film, Kechiche would desire the free illicit distribution of something he presumably made at personal cost (not to mention anyone else that would stand to receive royalties or money from a distribution deal). It would end his career, which he seems to want to quite fiercely protect. Still kinda can't believe that he secured financing for another film following what happened with these
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#102 Post by aewb »

There were rumours that Kechiche had given copies to pirates in Paris but I’m sure the film would’ve ended up online if that were true.
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#103 Post by domino harvey »

If copies exist and are circulating, even privately, it will only be a matter of time
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#104 Post by therewillbeblus »

I hope you're right.. and that we get the original cut for Intermezzo, if it still exists
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#105 Post by Mr Sausage »

I imagine the actress who was plied with alcohol and coerced into performing actual sex acts on camera is relieved the film is likely never getting released.
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#106 Post by therewillbeblus »

Yes, it was insensitive of me to plainly hope for a release of a film that's inherently problematic for valid reasons. Sometimes my selfish 'I want to see this' side blocks out the memory of why it's not available from a moral space. To pivot on that subject, I really hope Ophélie Bau continues to get work- if she even wants it. I'd really like to see what else she can do.
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#107 Post by Mr Sausage »

therewillbeblus wrote:Yes, it was insensitive of me to plainly hope for a release of a film that's inherently problematic for valid reasons. Sometimes my selfish 'I want to see this' side blocks out the memory of why it's not available from a moral space. To pivot on that subject, I really hope Ophélie Bau continues to get work- if she even wants it. I'd really like to see what else she can do.
Oh shit, I really didn’t mean it like that. It was just a random thought I had while reading the recent posts. At no point did I think you were being insensitive or anything.
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#108 Post by therewillbeblus »

Oh, no worries, I didn't think you were pointing at me- you brought up an important point, and it moved me to respond. It's actually an interesting dilemma to consider following my interpretation of Kechiche's thematic interests in reframing exploitation as admiration and even honest declarations of tangible intimacy, as I wrote up on the previous page related to Canto Uno and initially developed the theory while watching Black Venus before it
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#109 Post by Never Cursed »

Obviously take this with more than a grain of salt given its source, but Jordan Ruimy is reporting that the long-in-limbo third installment of this series will premiere at Locarno this year (so next month), and that its appearance at the festival will be announced tomorrow.
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#110 Post by yoloswegmaster »

Don't know why we're treating Ruimy like he's credible when he just stole this information from someone on the Awardsworthy forum who posted about Mektoub being announced at Locarno a couple of days ago.
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#111 Post by The Narrator Returns »

My girlfriend informed me that multiple times, someone’s posted a bullshit scoop on AwardsWorthy solely to see if Ruimy would post it, and of course he did. She doesn’t think that’s the case here, though that could easily mean the original poster got a bad scoop that’s now been foolishly spread twice.
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#112 Post by tenia »

Canto Due has actually been announced.
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#113 Post by domino harvey »

Could see a label like VS or KLSC releasing the trilogy, they seem fairly immune to caring about the faction of audiences that would protest such a release
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#114 Post by Never Cursed »

Wow, Canto Due only runs 134 minutes. Wonder if he was obliged to edit it down again
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#115 Post by Zot! »

Say what you will about Kechiche, his persistence to complete his butt trilogy is "formidable"...we are closing in on a decade now. Intermezzo never even had a domestic home video release from what I can tell.

My minor comment regarding the (now ancient) controversy concerning the extensive prurient content. It strikes me as ironic that the mainstream continues to accept films featuring drawn out extreme violence, like literally carving holes in naked people the entire feature is a fine evenings entertainment, but be sticklers for the sexy stuff alone as being gratuitous. It's almost like we're willing to accept nudity, sex, and even aggression against women as respectable content, but only as long as we see everyone chopped up in due course. I for one am ok with watching an artistic movie about gawking at butts without the obligatory bloodshed.
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Re: Mektoub, My Love: Canto Uno / Intermezzo / Canto Due (Abdellatif Kechiche, 2017-2025)

#116 Post by Never Cursed »

Libération has published a lengthy article concerning Kechiche's struggles to get Intermezzo and Canto Due released. Definitely worth a read for anyone still invested in the situation, but the short version is that Kechiche's editors assume that Intermezzo will never be released. The version of the film that screened at Cannes was a "rough cut" that needed to be trimmed down (and was reduced to about two hours), but:
Luc Seugé, one of the editors wrote:"We went from three hours of copyright infringement to one and a half hours. We did the math one day: it'd cost a million (euros)."
The specific song cited as driving up the cost the most was a dance remix of ABBA's "Voulez-vous" that loops repeatedly. The shorter cut also lacks the controversial unsimulated sex scene with Ophélie Bau, presumably because the production could not get her to clear it for release. Following the disastrous premiere of Intermezzo at Cannes, Kechiche and crew tried to raise the money to finish Canto Due for a year until the head of Why Not Productions financed the editing process, which boiled down to watching the enormous amount of filmed footage for Canto Due (the article claims it to be 1000 hours of footage, which took them two years to get through), creating a rough cut from that, and submitting it to Cannes in 2024 without Kechiche's approval (where it was rejected). Kechiche then edited for another year, this time with the cooperation of producer Riccardo Marchegiani, until he suffered from a stroke in March of this year that has apparently left him unable to read or write. Marchegiani took the version that Kechiche had mostly finished and was in the process of getting it ready to play at Directors' Fortnight until some nebulous force killed the screening: either Ophélie Bau again refused to sign off on the film following investigations into mistreatment by Kechiche on set, or the selection people at Quinzaine simply didn't like it enough.

Ultimately, Kechiche's career as a filmmaker is probably over following the release of Canto Due for a number of reasons: his stroke, the various bridges he's burned, accusations of mistreatment made against him by Ophélie Bau and others, and the fact that he filmed an entire separate project during the post-COVID lull between Intermezzo and Canto Due that is itself unfinished and abandoned, wasting even more of Why Not's money on a separate unreleasable film. And while Canto Due will probably release in Europe this year, Intermezzo will likely only see the light of day if it is put out illegally.
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#117 Post by Zot! »

Canto Due is premiering and playing In Competition at Locarno in August. The fate of Intermezzo sounds less certain.

https://www.locarnofestival.ch/festival ... &l=en&eid=
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#118 Post by Never Cursed »

Yep, I posted the same above. I more meant that I am not certain if it will release in theaters/have a home video release this year.
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#119 Post by Zot! »

Never Cursed wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 7:28 pm Yep, I posted the same above. I more meant that I am not certain if it will release in theaters/have a home video release this year.
Yes, sorry, I missed your reference to the festival date. It is quite a saga.
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#120 Post by Altair »

Thanks for summarising the article Never Cursed and keeping up with the various, contorted twists to the Kechiche saga. I didn't know about the stroke - that's quite horrendous. I have to say I'm still intrigued to see Canto Due - let's hope some kind of English-friendly release occurs.
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#121 Post by tenia »

I am however a bit bothered at how Bau is mentioned in the article, as if she's actively responsible for part of this debacle, how she "scarred" all this. It does read a bit like switching the victim around, while Kechiche seemingly will shoot 8 months (!) worth of rushes instead rather than at some point starting to get a sense of what he wants to do and what he needs to achieve that and maybe that's the biggest issue.
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Re: Mektoub, My Love: Canto Uno / Intermezzo / Canto Due (Abdellatif Kechiche, 2017-2025)

#124 Post by domino harvey »

One of the stars of Due, Jessica Pennington, who was just nominated for a Lumiere Award, is probably better known to some of you by a different name (NSFW if your IT guy knows who this is)
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