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beamish14 wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:31 pm I do think it’s a matter of time before someone releases Clownhouse. Hell, Kino probably already bid on it
Given the history of that movie, MGM is never going to license it out nor will they release it themselves.
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I'm glad that Last Tango is not being cancelled out of existence as well, although one film I would really love to see re-appear some time is Cyril Collard's HIV drama Les nuits fauves (Savage Nights) in which Maria Schneider has a small role. I could see that being a good fit for the Altered Innocence label, especially if they can include his earlier shorts.
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colinr0380 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:42 am I'm glad that Last Tango is not being cancelled out of existence as well, although one film I would really love to see re-appear some time is Cyril Collard's HIV drama Les nuits fauves (Savage Nights) in which Maria Schneider has a small role. I could see that being a good fit for the Altered Innocence label, especially if they can include his earlier shorts.
I'm amazed that after all this time, to my knowledge, Les nuits favues has had not English friendly release on Blu Ray or even DVD. ](*,)
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Aunt Peg wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:51 pm
colinr0380 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:42 am I'm glad that Last Tango is not being cancelled out of existence as well, although one film I would really love to see re-appear some time is Cyril Collard's HIV drama Les nuits fauves (Savage Nights) in which Maria Schneider has a small role. I could see that being a good fit for the Altered Innocence label, especially if they can include his earlier shorts.
I'm amazed that after all this time, to my knowledge, Les nuits favues has had not English friendly release on Blu Ray or even DVD. ](*,)

The story behind that film and the roman a clef it’s based on is so insane. I would love to reevaluate it
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#2205 Post by luxta »

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CIN-018, one of our two releases for May, will be revealed during the Vinegar Syndrome Halfway to Black Friday flash preorder on May 1st and is a world Blu-ray debut 👀
May: a blu-ray debut of an often overlooked entry in the career of one of America’s great filmmakers and a UHD debut of an 80s movie, that couldn’t be more different
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#2206 Post by jazzo »

The UHD 80s is Spike of Bensonhurst, I tells ya.
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#2207 Post by domino harvey »

The release of the Corneau really has me hopeful for future IFC holdings. Does anyone know if IFC still have the rights to their Chabrols? Could def see a VS partner label being encouraged to prep La Fille coupee en deux at any rate (and then we could hopefully get new subs that don't translate a character's surname like on the Artificial Eye DVD)
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Amazing Grace and Chuck on UHD at last.
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CSM126 wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 4:42 pm Amazing Grace and Chuck on UHD at last.

Hey, any film that has Gregory Peck portraying Ronald Reagan at least deserves a rental

Someone on the 35mm forum had a funny story about virtually no one seeing it at a theatre they worked at during its brief theatrical lifespan. They packed up the print early a day before it was supposed to be shipped back to Universal, but a relative of a child actor bought a ticket and they had to put the entire print back together in record time
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#2210 Post by colinr0380 »

Mike Newell had a weird 1980s for someone who became a stalwart of very British films in the decades afterwards. Not least starting out the decade with the Charlton Heston starring remake of the Hammer film Blood From The Mummy's Tomb with The Awakening (and which itself is the only Mike Newell film to inspire a Lucio Fulci film!)
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beamish14 wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 6:29 pm
CSM126 wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 4:42 pm Amazing Grace and Chuck on UHD at last.

Hey, any film that has Gregory Peck portraying Ronald Reagan at least deserves a rental
And that’s the least weird thing about it. Truly one of the weirdest, wildest WTF movies I’ve seen from the era and, yes, I would totally buy a copy. Because WTF?!
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#2212 Post by beamish14 »

colinr0380 wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:10 pm Mike Newell had a weird 1980s for someone who became a stalwart of very British films in the decades afterwards. Not least starting out the decade with the Charlton Heston starring remake of the Hammer film Blood From The Mummy's Tomb with The Awakening (and which itself is the only Mike Newell film to inspire a Lucio Fulci film!)
This was the movie he did right before Soursweet, which I’d love to see the BFI tackle.
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#2213 Post by luxta »

Maybe Catch 22.
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#2214 Post by crimlaw »

Possibly, although it would be odd to release only a blu ray (as the clue suggest) and not a 4K for Catch 22.
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#2215 Post by jsteffe »

DandyDancing wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 2:14 am Is it just me or do those caps for Last Tango look really yellow? I'd expect nothing less from a Storaro re-grade, though.
I just received the 4K UHD disc. There is a lot of strong yellow in many shots, but to my eyes it is part of a deliberate lighting and production design choice that foregrounds warm colors such as yellow, orange, red, and brown. Many other shots have more of a "normal" color balance and there are also true whites and blacks in the transfer. It looks appropriate to me, far more successful than, say, the older hi-def master of THE LAST EMPEROR.
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#2216 Post by luxta »

Typical Bertolucci.
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#2217 Post by MichaelB »

I've always remembered the interiors in Last Tango looking very yellow from 35mm presentations, and in this case it's almost certainly safe to assume it was a deliberate artistic choice on Vittorio Storaro's part. If Bertolucci had wanted a naturalistic colour scheme, he wouldn't have hired Storaro!
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#2218 Post by beamish14 »

MichaelB wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 7:45 pm I've always remembered the interiors in Last Tango looking very yellow from 35mm presentations, and in this case it's almost certainly safe to assume it was a deliberate artistic choice on Vittorio Storaro's part. If Bertolucci had wanted a naturalistic colour scheme, he wouldn't have hired Storaro!

Yes, it looks like the interiors are supposed to be drenched in sunlight
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#2219 Post by kekid »

The VS 4K of "Last Tango in Paris" does not seem to have an English audio option.
Essential if you want to hear Brando in his own voice.
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Just to clarify, wasn't this film always mixed language (English and French)?
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#2221 Post by MichaelB »

I've never seen it in anything other than a mixture of contextually-appropriate English and French - and that includes a screening actually in a Paris cinema.

And if it is in dubbed French throughout and exclusively, I'd be surprised if there wasn't already a whopping online scandal about it.

Anyway, the official disc specs say that the language is "English, French", which I assume refers to the original soundtrack, presented exactly as it should be.

UPDATE: It turns out that there is a controversy over this disc, but it's over the absence of the original United Artists ident at the start, something over which Vinegar Syndrome would have had no say or control as these things are contractually imposed by the current rightsholder. Sadly, I've been in this boat myself as well.
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#2222 Post by videozor »

Can anyone comment on how VS's BD of Last Tango in Paris compares with the Imprint's one. I ordered that one from Australia never anticipating that in a month or two there would be a domestic edition. If not mistaken, extras are identical and, to me, cover arts are equally ugly. But what about image quality? Thank you!
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#2223 Post by andyli »

videozor wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:00 am Can anyone comment on how VS's BD of Last Tango in Paris compares with the Imprint's one. I ordered that one from Australia never anticipating that in a month or two there would be a domestic edition. If not mistaken, extras are identical and, to me, cover arts are equally ugly. But what about image quality? Thank you!
The VS is from a new 4K restoration, whereas Imprint ports over the old MGM master.
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#2224 Post by videozor »

Thank you!
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videozor wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:00 am Can anyone comment on how VS's BD of Last Tango in Paris compares with the Imprint's one. I ordered that one from Australia never anticipating that in a month or two there would be a domestic edition. If not mistaken, extras are identical and, to me, cover arts are equally ugly. But what about image quality? Thank you!
ianthemovie wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 12:22 pm The interview with Francesco Barilli and locations featurette are exclusive to the VS and the interview with Piero Spila is exclusive to the Imprint. Both include interviews with editor Roberto Perpignani and an archival interview with Bertolucci though the running times are different so it's unclear whether they're based on the same footage.
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