Film Movement

[yoloswegmaster]

Lee Chang Dong boxset coming in summer 2024. It will contain Green Fish, Peppermint Candy, Oasis, and Poetry.

[andyli]

All supposedly 4k restorations. But keep in mind that Poetry is probably an upscale of its 2k DI.

[Michael Kerpan]

Lee Chang Dong boxset coming in summer 2024. It will contain Green Fish, Peppermint Candy, Oasis, and Poetry.

This replicates the long ago deluxe Korean DVD box set of the 3 early films -- plus Poetry.

[spectre]

Will be interesting to see how this compares with the Umbrella edition coming out in February (apart from the absence of Green Fish, of course).

https://shop.umbrellaent.com.au/product ... -2002-2010

[qw0aszx]

All supposedly 4k restorations. But keep in mind that Poetry is probably an upscale of its 2k DI.

Indeed, the 4K remasters of both POETRY and SECRET SUNSHINE done in 2022 were upscaled from original 2K DSM files. But I believe they did new color corrections on these remasters, at least the color on the new master of POETRY looks better than previous HD master in my opinion.

[senseabove]

Film Movement picked up Bonello's COMA for the US, finally, presumably and probably wisely hoping to ride The Beast's wave

[Ribs]

They will also be releasing Lisandro Alonso’s Eureka.

[What A Disgrace]

Liverpool and Jauja are the only Alonso films I've seen, but they're both masterpieces and I'm stoked that he made another film at last, and that I may get to see it to boot.

[dwk]

Film Movement has picked up another Hideo Gosha film from Toei, 1982's Onimasa

[knives]

That’s a really great one (then again all his later films are great)

[yoloswegmaster]

For anyone looking to buy the 4 film Lee Chang Dong set, be aware that Green Fish is not using the 4K restoration as advertised but is instead using an older HD master.

[PfR73]

Didn't they do that same screw up with a previous release? The Pagnol set, I think?

[nicolas]

For anyone looking to buy the 4 film Lee Chang Dong set, be aware that Green Fish is not using the 4K restoration as advertised but is instead using an older HD master.

This is disappointing and the second QC problem in a month after the botched BD of Bastards (Claire Denis). VS didn’t bother addressing this, so I’m not holding my breath here either.

[swo17]

botched BD of Bastards (Claire Denis)

What's wrong with it? How does it compare to the Artificial Eye?

[Peacock]

The IFC release has burnt in English subs and possibly some frame rate conversion issue. The AE has neither.

This isn’t a Film Movement title so should be moved from this thread.

[Adam X]

If there is actually a 4K restoration of Green Fish, maybe there’s a licensing issue? It’s the one film that wasn’t included with Umbrella’s release.

[yoloswegmaster]

A 4K restoration was released on blu in Japan, though I think it's on a BD-25. Someone posted screencap comparisons between that release and the FM release:

Spoiler

U.S Release:


Japan Release:

[yoloswegmaster]

For anyone looking to buy the 4 film Lee Chang Dong set, be aware that Green Fish is not using the 4K restoration as advertised but is instead using an older HD master.

This is the response that someone from the other forum received when they emailed them about this:

Film Movement was first made aware of the issue with Green Fish on Friday. Film Movement has already contacted their licensor and are working to resolve the issue. Film Movement has inquired about the master and will work to remedy the issue for customers regarding the 4K restoration of Green Fish.

It's bizarre that they weren't aware that the master on the release wasn't from the 4K restoration, but at least they have confirmed they are working on a solution.

[criterionsnob]

That’s good news. I have watched the disc now and what stood out to me most were the dust marks throughout the entire film. That should’ve been a dead giveaway that it was an outdated master.

[nicolas]

Green Fish replacement program announced on X / Twitter: https://x.com/film_movement/status/1833 ... 09139?s=46

Replacement discs are currently being worked on and more details are available soon.

[dwk]

Four Japanese films have been added to Film Movement's website's Coming Soon section:

Tokyo Bordello (1987) - Directed by Hideo Gosha
A ruined businessman was forced to sell his daughter, Hisano, to a brothel in Yoshiwara, the largest red-light district in Tokyo. After several months of training, she tries to flee Yoshiwara when the time has come for her to take her first customer. Presented in a new 2K restoration.

Shall We Dance? (1996) - Directed by Masayuki Suo
A successful but unhappy Japanese accountant finds the missing passion in his life when he begins to secretly take ballroom dance lessons. A tremendous box-office smash when first released by Miramax in North America, the original SHALL WE DANCE? is presented in a new and uncut 4K restoration.

Fancy Dance (1989) - Directed by Masayuki Suo
Yohei, a punk rocker, has to become a Buddhist monk in order to inherit a mountain temple. Yohei, though initially rebelling against the tough monastic discipline, learns to adjust. Then his girlfriend shows up, enticing him to return to his rock 'n' roll roots. Presented in a new 4K restoration.

Sumo Do, Sumo Don't (1992) - Directed by Masayuki Suo
A college senior, Shuhei, is blackmailed by a professor into joining the school's sumo team. He is aided by a group of misfits who must team together to defeat their rivals or face disgrace and the disbandment of the sumo club. Recently remade as a 10-part series for Disney+, the original film is presented in a new 4K restoration.

[MichaelB]

Green Fish replacement program announced on X / Twitter: https://x.com/film_movement/status/1833 ... 09139?s=46

Replacement discs are currently being worked on and more details are available soon.

Based on precedent, I assume I'll be sent the replacement disc automatically, since I ordered it from Film Movement (via Vinegar Syndrome) in the first place.

[yoloswegmaster]

Film Movement have picked up the rights to Tsui Hark's Shanghai Blues

[nicolas]

I received a couple of Film Movement titles through VS today, including the Lee Chang-dong set and the Jessica Hausner film Hotel. Sadly I have to report that these films received very disappointing encodes (the Lee set is credited to three people at VoxPod NYC) where an organic grain structure is essentially not present and grain only pulsates across the entire frame. It looks like mosquito noise. This is really quite severe and shouldn’t just be visible for pixel peepers. It’s a real shame as the new restorations of Peppermint Candy and Oasis look very good. I compared Poetry between the Kino Lorber BD and prefer the older BD again for slightly superior encoding even though the KL isn’t good either but crucially, the first 2K master doesn’t appear to have any DNR whereas the 4K upscale is definitely DNR’d in select scenes. qw0aszx mentioned that he believes the new master has improved color grading, which I can confirm but after a comparison it’s still not worth the tradeoff in my opinion. Otherwise, it’s a good edition with subtitled making-of’s but the main attractions leave a lot to be desired. Oasis is also framed in 1.90:1 for unknown reasons.

Same applies to Hausner’s Hotel, which was newly restored (likely 4K) in Germany, but the encode also doesn’t hold up. I haven’t put the disc into my computer but they used a BD-50 for this 75-minute film without any video extras and it doesn’t look much better than a crappy stream either.

Justin LaLiberty co-produced the Lee release by the way. It’s baffling to me that he’s fine with these encodes yet is one of the loudest champions for physical media on X/Twitter. The latter is of course nice to have but he’s giving the few people that buy niche partner label releases like that one too many reasons not to.

[yoloswegmaster]

Film Movement have the rights to Zhang Yimou's Ju Dou