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CSM126 · #951 Post by **CSM126** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:27 pm

TechnicolorAcid wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:09 pmAs much I adore Viridiana, it would be a shame if it was the Buñuel title as there is so many underrepresented Buñuels out there. Though I do see as a win for the British crowd who aren’t able to get the Criterion Blu-Ray so I have mixed thoughts.

To be fair, no one can get the Criterion Blu-ray of Viridiana, since it doesn’t exist.

ryannichols7 · #952 Post by **ryannichols7** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:41 pm

yeah I'm totally fine with Viridiana coming from Radiance, especially given there will probably be actual supplements created for such an edition! who knows when Criterion will get to their own edition, especially given that they're rumored to have Los Oliviados and El (but not some of the other titles)

the Mexican titles are a possibility though, I just don't know the rights situation. it just lines up with the Sight and Sound that Viridiana is likely

TechnicolorAcid · Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:24 pm

CSM126 wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:27 pm
TechnicolorAcid wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:09 pmAs much I adore Viridiana, it would be a shame if it was the Buñuel title as there is so many underrepresented Buñuels out there. Though I do see as a win for the British crowd who aren’t able to get the Criterion Blu-Ray so I have mixed thoughts.
To be fair, no one can get the Criterion Blu-ray of Viridiana, since it doesn’t exist.

Wait really! Oh sorry, I must had misremembered something because I definitely thought it had a Criterion Blu-Ray, in that case, the Radiance release will be very welcome.

#954 Post by **Matt** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:41 pm

We took a poll on this forum maybe 20 years ago and a box set of Buñuel’s Mexican films was the most-wanted Criterion release. This was before we got the three they did release, but we still hunger for more!

TechnicolorAcid: The Exterminating Angel was upgraded by Criterion to Blu-ray, but I think the consensus here was that it was not a great improvement on the DVD.

hearthesilence · #955 Post by **hearthesilence** » Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:36 am

FWIW, here's the page for the "Buñuel in Mexico" program which will run during the first three weeks of February at MoMA.

Schedule isn't up yet, but it does say:

"Organized with the invaluable assistance of Daniela Michel and Chloe Roddick of the Morelia International Film Festival, this program consists of 19 of the 21 films Buñuel made in Mexico (two French-language productions, La fièvre monte à El Pao and Cela s’appelle l’aurore, were unavailable), mostly in newly restored 35mm prints from the Mexican archives, La Cineteca Nacional, and La Cineteca de la UNAM."

yoloswegmaster · #956 Post by **yoloswegmaster** » Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:55 am

BAMPFA held a Bunuel retrospective a couple months ago that contained quite a few of the Mexican titles and most of the titles were licensed from the Luis Buñuel Film Institute. While Él is with Janus (not a shock due to the World Cinema Project connection), Los Olvidados is listed as being with Kino Lorber. I asked the insider last year if they were going to release it but they said that they weren't sure if they were going to release it.

M Sanderson · #957 Post by **M Sanderson** » Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:30 am

I'd go for VIRIDIANA as I've never seen it. but would be more excited for the Mexican genre films or social realist films that are so much more than that.

andyli · #958 Post by **andyli** » Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:39 am

yoloswegmaster wrote:BAMPFA held a Bunuel retrospective a couple months ago that contained quite a few of the Mexican titles and most of the titles were licensed from the Luis Buñuel Film Institute. While Él is with Janus (not a shock due to the World Cinema Project connection), Los Olvidados is listed as being with Kino Lorber. I asked the insider last year if they were going to release it but they said that they weren't sure if they were going to release it.

They weren’t sure if they were going to release Los Olvidados, one of the most important films not yet on an English-subbed blu-ray, yet they are sure about dumping loads of trash nobody cares about month after month, and rerelease the same old stuff with a higher bitrate every now and then?

unclehulot · #959 Post by **unclehulot** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:50 am

andyli wrote:
yoloswegmaster wrote:BAMPFA held a Bunuel retrospective a couple months ago that contained quite a few of the Mexican titles and most of the titles were licensed from the Luis Buñuel Film Institute. While Él is with Janus (not a shock due to the World Cinema Project connection), Los Olvidados is listed as being with Kino Lorber. I asked the insider last year if they were going to release it but they said that they weren't sure if they were going to release it.
They weren’t sure if they were going to release Los Olvidados, one of the most important films not yet on an English-subbed blu-ray, yet they are sure about dumping loads of trash nobody cares about month after month, and rerelease the same old stuff with a higher bitrate every now and then?

No offense, but if you did this for every worthy film that they didn’t release (for reasons you can only guess at), you’re engaging in a huge exercise in futility. Ok, so they bombard us with a lot of junk along the good stuff, but meanwhile Criterion is slow as molasses in updating so many important films that USED to be their bread and butter, that is another kind of frustration. But….taking a step back, it’s still a great time for physical media in a time that it’s supposedly going down the crapper.

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DRW.mov · #960 Post by **DRW.mov** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:11 am

Kino put out theatrical prints of Los Olvidados back in the 90s/early 00s and are more than likely listed as the most recent theatrical distributor, especially if they’re screening a 35mm print, however, The World Cinema Project has both Los Olvidados and Él so presumably those will come from Janus/Criterion in the coming year(s). The US blu rays of Criminal Life of Archibaldo de la Cruz and The Brute from VCI leave a wide room for improvement and I would love to see Radiance tackle those, if not some of the more unavailable titles like Mexican Bus Ride, Illusion Travels by Streetcar, or Wuthering Heights.

andyli · #961 Post by **andyli** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:12 am

unclehulot wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:50 amNo offense, but if you did this for every worthy film that they didn’t release (for reasons you can only guess at), you’re engaging in a huge exercise in futility. Ok, so they bombard us with a lot of junk along the good stuff, but meanwhile Criterion is slow as molasses in updating so many important films that USED to be their bread and butter, that is another kind of frustration. But….taking a step back, it’s still a great time for physical media in a time that it’s supposedly going down the crapper.

No offense taken. I was just aiming at the "not sure" part. A clear yes or no with reasons would be easier to take. "Not sure" feels like they either don't care or don't even know the importance of and demand for the film out there.
By the way, I was a bit upset exactly because Los Olvidados is not merely a "worthy" film for Kino, or for any other label. It's Los Olvidados. If we're taking the ranking in a canon list like those from S&S as some kind of objective reference, there aren't too many films above its stature that still await a blu-ray debut in the English-speaking world.

Peacock · #962 Post by **Peacock** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:43 am

As DRW suggests it’s undoubtedly due to the WCF and Criterion being interested. Kino had the rights to Stalker for ages but never released a Blu. Why not? Stalker is a major film right? Well because Criterion will have been chasing it hard and it was either worth it financially to Kino to play ball or they got outbid on the renewal.

Kino put out classics on a monthly basis in pretty much barebones editions, there’s no reason for them to sit on this, they aren’t Criterion.

unclehulot · #963 Post by **unclehulot** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:00 pm

Is that 20+ year old Cine-club DVD the only disc release of Los Olvidados? I have that…is it watchable? Haven’t put it on for a spin in ages, but now I want to see the film again! Agreed it’s well past time for a modern release!

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ryannichols7 · #964 Post by **ryannichols7** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:12 pm

I bought the bundles (2+2+1+1) and was hoping to get discord access. unfortunately I bought the first order through a different email and so I didn't receive any email about getting access. I wrote in, giving my order numbers and stating all four transactions were me...and then woke up this morning to find one bundle refunded. however, even if I rebuy, am I going to be denied access based on the fact that I didn't buy all my bundles on the same day? hopefully there's an answer here

MichaelB · #965 Post by **MichaelB** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:56 pm

unclehulot wrote:Is that 20+ year old Cine-club DVD the only disc release of Los Olvidados? I have that…is it watchable? Haven’t put it on for a spin in ages, but now I want to see the film again! Agreed it’s well past time for a modern release!

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I have the French Films Sans Frontières edition, which may well date back to the last century.

TMDaines · #966 Post by **TMDaines** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:39 am

Teaser for upcoming releases in the latest newsletter:

2024 TEASER
As with our teaser on social media last year, we are happy to publish a coded schedule for our 2024 release plans. Good luck deciphering!

THE STING OF DEATH
GOODBYE & AMEN
I THE EXECUTIONER
BLACK TIGHT KILLERS
ALLONSANFAN
BY A MAN'S FACE SHALL YOU KNOW HIM
THE BOUNTY HUNTER TRILOGY
A STORY WRITTEN WITH WATER
SUZHOU RIVER
TONY ARZENTA
SON = The Shape of Night // Yoru no henrin (1966 - Noboru Nakamura)
MIS = Misunderstood // Incompreso (1966 - Luigi Comencini)
LAF = L'amour fou (1969 - Jacques Rivette)
PDC = Puzzle of a Downfall Child? Poil de carrotte? Pastoral: To Die in the Country?
SHIN = Shinobi no mono boxset: Shinobi no mono (1962 - Satsuo Yamamoto), Zoku shinobi no mono (1963 - Satsuo Yamamoto), and Shin shinobi no mono (1963 - Kazuo Mori).
BOO+ = Banditi a Orgosolo (1961 - Vittorio De Seta) (+ 10 shorts)
MH = Mata Hari? Michael Haneke film? Manhunter? Monte Hellman film?
POV = Terrore nello spazio // Planet of the Vampires (1965 - Mario Bava)
SU = Sympathy for the Underdog // Bakuto gaijin butai (1971 - Kinji Fukasaku)
TK3 = Eighteen Years in Prison // Choueki juhachi-nen (1967 - Tai Katô)
MOCK = Jean-Pierre Mocky boxset: Litan (1982), Kill the Referee // À mort l'arbitre! (1984), and Agent Trouble (1987).
MM = Mississippi Mermaid // La sirène du Mississipi (1969 - François Truffaut)
SOA = The Story of Adele H. // L'histoire d'Adèle H. (1975 - François Truffaut)
TK4 = Kutsukake Tokijiro - yukyo ippiki // Lone Yakuza (1966 - Tai Katô)
RB = Robert Bresson film?
WN2 = World Noir 2: Schwarzer Kies // Black Gravel (1961 - Helmut Käutner), Symphonie pour un massacre // Symphony for a Massacre (1963 - Jacques Deray), and Kenjû zankoku monogatari // Cruel Gun Story (1964 - Takumi Furukawa)
SMPO = Sbatti il mostro in prima pagina // Slap the Monster on Page One (1972 - Marco Bellocchio)
TL = Trenque Lauquen (2022 - Laura Citarella)… but apparently this wasn’t the intended TL… The Landlord (1970 - Hal Ashby)... but there is also... Tattooed Life // Irezumi ichidai (1965 - Seijun Suzuki)
EP1 = A ciascuno il suo // We Still Kill the Old Way // To Each His Own (1967 - Elio Petri)
EP2 = Un tranquillo posto di campagna // A Quiet Place in the Country (1968 - Elio Petri)
DG = Daiei Gothic - Japanese Ghost Stories boxset: The Ghost of Yotsuya // Tôkaidô Yotsuya kaidan (1959 - Nobuo Nakagawa), The Bride from Hades // Botan-dôrô (1968 - Satsuo Yamamoto), and The Snow Woman // Kaidan yukijorô (1968 - Tokuzô Tanaka).
SM = Sergio Martino films? Samira Makhmalbaf films?
PY0 = Panic in Year Zero! (1962 - Ray Milland)
JCB = Nihon boryoku-dan: Kumicho // Japan Organized Crime Boss (1969 - Kinji Fukasaku)
Plus a TBC Box Set or two and some more titles being worked on!

Potentially 1 or 2 UHDs depending on materials...

Bold = Boxes

Edit: Updated with August newsletter reveals. Seems as if we have a mix of acronyms of an English-language title, acronyms of an original-language title, and abbreviations. The list is also not in chronological order.

TMDaines · #967 Post by **TMDaines** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:56 am

Wonder if PY0 is Panic in Year Zero (1962) even though it wouldn't typically be a period associated with them.

Could JCB be Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975)? I can find no films with the initials JCB.

Finally PDC could well be Puzzle of a Downfall Child (1970).

Adam X · #968 Post by **Adam X** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:23 am

Well TK3 & 4 are presumably two more films from Tai Kato, but what I’m truly hoping is that EP1 & 2 are two more films from Elio Petri. We Still Kill the Old Way would be especially wonderful.

TMDaines · #969 Post by **TMDaines** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:29 am

Adam X wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:23 am Well TK3 & 4 are presumably two more films from Tai Kato, but what I’m truly hoping is that EP1 & 2 are two more films from Elio Petri. We Still Kill the Old Way would be especially wonderful.

I hoped so, but given they are doing TK3 and TK4, and Petri already has one release, it would be inconsistent. That said, maybe they are only referring to 2023 releases. If Petri, I would guess two of Il maestro di Vigevano (1963), and A ciascuno il suo (1967), which both already have Blu-ray releases on the continent, or Todo modo (1976), which is probably the biggest title unreleased on Blu-ray.

TMDaines · #970 Post by **TMDaines** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:43 am

I would love BOO to be Banditi a Orgosolo, which almost works, with the + being the short films of Vittorio De Seta, which would mirror the French Carlotta release.

#971 Post by **domino harvey** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:45 am

I wonder if MOCK is a Mocky set. I don’t think any of his films are commercially available with English subs, and while his output is wildly uneven, I think he’d be a big hit with a lot of viewers who have no idea they’d enjoy his provocations

TMDaines · #972 Post by **TMDaines** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:50 am

If anyone can work out the possible Bunuel, please share. I couldn't find an obvious acronym in any language, but might have missed the wood for the trees.

TMDaines · #973 Post by **TMDaines** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:58 am

There's a surprising lack of obvious directors for an SM boxset. There's surely not enough Sergio Martino titles left of interest in the UK, unless someone wants to make a case for some of his comedies. Another outside shout would be Samira Makhmalbaf.

I can't see anyone possible for DG.

#974 Post by **domino harvey** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:18 pm

MH = the Truffaut scripted Mata Hari? Radiance loves Trintignant

andyli · #975 Post by **andyli** » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:43 pm

MIS: Marriage Italian Style?
PDC: Poil de carrotte?
SOA: Story of Adele H. ? Storm Over Asia ?

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