Passages
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MongooseCmr
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I figured it was legal/money problems keeping any SST remasters from coming but that’s a much more troubling reason. My War is the quietest loud album I’ve ever heard, even on max volume it sounds like it’s coming from another car
- hearthesilence
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Over at another forum, there's a post that says "Someone I know got a look at where the SST masters were stored about 15 years ago -- in bulging/splitting cardboard boxes in a non-temperature controlled closet in TX." Terrible, but then again, this exchange was on Facebook:beamish14 wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:32 am It’s very possible that SST may have never stored their masters correctly, which would be a heartbreaking blow to the amazing body of work he produced. Like Martin Hannett at Factory, he defined a label’s trademark aural sound, even though he was one of many producers they utilized.
"I had heard from a friend recently that [Spot] wasn't doing too well. This friend was temporarily storing a bunch of Spot's equipment that had been cleared out of his place in WI. Supposedly there were lots of tapes of unreleased stuff."
Another person chimes in: "I can confirm this. SPOT reached out to me about releasing some of that stuff right before he moved up there. The tangled web of getting permissions was not a mine field I could traverse. Needless to say, the comp CD he sent me of the outtakes of some of the records he produced was jaw dropping. He said he never stopped the tape and still had almost every version of the songs the bands played in the studio. sometimes 8-10 hours of stuff for one record. Insane to think about."
So maybe the album masters are in poor hands, but Spot saved the outtakes?
- hearthesilence
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That's awesome - also it was years before I knew Lindley did the falsetto, at which point I finally understood the eruption of applause that occurs on the record too!headacheboy wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:59 am I'll second that heartthesilence, El Rayo-X is fantastic. I saw Browne on the day Elvis Presley died down in Edwardsville, Illinois and he was debuting many songs that appeared on Running On Empty. When the show ended with Stay we were pretty ecstatic by Browne covering such a an old song, but we all wondered who the hell was going to sing falsetto among the backup singers. When David Lindley, who most didn't even know sang, busted out that insane falsetto the entire crowd roared! It was a magical moment well before the Browne cover hit the radio.
- hearthesilence
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- Drucker
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It's always seemed to me that Ginn is the issue.MongooseCmr wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:55 am I figured it was legal/money problems keeping any SST remasters from coming but that’s a much more troubling reason. My War is the quietest loud album I’ve ever heard, even on max volume it sounds like it’s coming from another car
- Aunt Peg
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Ted Donaldson, 89, from A Tree Grows in Brooklyn amongst others : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Donaldson
- Aunt Peg
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Bert I. Gordon, 100, film director passed away: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert_I._Gordon
Aside from Roger Corman is there anybody left who directed a feature film for cinema that debuted in the 1950s?
Aside from Roger Corman is there anybody left who directed a feature film for cinema that debuted in the 1950s?
- JSC
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The only one who even comes close that I can think of is Richard Lester; his short, Running, Jumping, Standing Film
debuted in 1959, but his first feature film wasn't until It's Trad, Dad! in 1962.
debuted in 1959, but his first feature film wasn't until It's Trad, Dad! in 1962.
- Gregory
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Toshio Masuda, whose Rusty Knife (1958) was in the Eclipse Nikkatsu Noir set.
- What A Disgrace
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Ebrahim Golestan is still with us, and he is 100 going on 101.
- Pavel
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Topol
As much as I love Gene Hackman, I believe Topol should’ve won the Oscar for Fiddler on the Roof that year
As much as I love Gene Hackman, I believe Topol should’ve won the Oscar for Fiddler on the Roof that year
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- MichaelB
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Alvin Rakoff made his feature debut in 1958, and he's still with us at 96. Ditto Toshio Masuda, who's now 95.JSC wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:30 am The only one who even comes close that I can think of is Richard Lester; his short, Running, Jumping, Standing Film
debuted in 1959, but his first feature film wasn't until It's Trad, Dad! in 1962.
Rakoff's fellow Canadian Ted Kotcheff is similar to Richard Lester in that his feature debut dates from 1962 but he was directing television in the mid-1950s.
See also Paolo Taviani - again, a 1962 feature debut, but he was making shorts from 1954.
And while James Ivory didn't make his feature debut until 1963, his first short was made a decade earlier.
And of course Kenneth Anger's filmography goes all the way back to 1947 (indeed, 1937 if you include undistributed films), but he never made a feature.
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Calvin
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A couple more - Veljko Bulajić, whose Train Without a Timetable was the Yugoslav Oscar entry in 1959, and Margot Benacerraf, director of Araya, which was at Cannes in '59. In fact, I don't think she's directed anything since.MichaelB wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:20 amAlvin Rakoff made his feature debut in 1958, and he's still with us at 96. Ditto Toshio Masuda, who's now 95.JSC wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:30 am The only one who even comes close that I can think of is Richard Lester; his short, Running, Jumping, Standing Film
debuted in 1959, but his first feature film wasn't until It's Trad, Dad! in 1962.
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- zedz
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Georgina Beyer, actor (e.g. Peter Wells' Jewel's Darl and A Death in the Family) and - more importantly - the world's first transgender MP.
Georgina Beyer
Georgina Beyer
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Orlac
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Sadly, he has outlived his wife Jaqueline Hill by 30 years.MichaelB wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:20 amAlvin Rakoff made his feature debut in 1958, and he's still with us at 96.JSC wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:30 am The only one who even comes close that I can think of is Richard Lester; his short, Running, Jumping, Standing Film
debuted in 1959, but his first feature film wasn't until It's Trad, Dad! in 1962.
- hearthesilence
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beamish14
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Nip the Bud, Shoot the Kids fascinated and confounded me in equal measure when I read it decades ago. His short story “The Catch” was the basis for several films, including one from Nagisa Oshima
- hearthesilence
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Drummer Jim Gordon. He was a member of Eric Clapton’s Derek and the Dominos and was hence the drummer on Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs, and he also played on literally hundreds of songs as part of the elite crew of session musicians known as the Wrecking Crew. He was also a member of Joe Cocker’s Mad Dogs and Englishmen group and Delaney and Bonnie and Friends, and was one of the main drummers on George Harrison’s magnum opus All Things Must Pass. His work on the Incredible Bongo Band’s 1972 song “Apache” is one of the most sampled drum breaks in hip-hop history. He can be heard on records by the Beach Boys (including the Pet Sounds album), Steely Dan (“Rikki Don’t Lose That Number”), Carly Simon (“You’re So Vain”), Gordon Lightfoot, Harry Nilsson, Sonny and Cher, Nancy Sinatra, Glen Campbell, Leon Russell and even the Byrds (their classic 1967 cover of Carole King and Gerry Goffin’s “Goin’ Back”). He also struggled with schizophrenia, which led to him killing his mother. He spent the rest of his life incarcerated at the California Medical Facility.
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/when-the-voices-took-over-52761/7/
By the mid-Seventies, Gordon started having trouble with addiction. “I guess I was an alcoholic,” he told Rolling Stone in 1985. “Before, I was drinking every night, but I wasn’t getting up in the morning for a drink; I would put a needle in my arm. When I stopped taking the heroin, I began to drink all day.” He began to hear voices in his head and by the late Seventies, his mother urged him to get help. He checked into a psychiatric hospital, where he told doctors his mom was “the only friend” he had.
On June 3rd, 1983, Gordon murdered his mother, Osa Marie Gordon, using a hammer and a butcher knife. The following year, he was sentenced to 16 years to life in prison.
“I had no interest in killing [my mother],” Gordon told Rolling Stone in 1985. “I wanted to stay away from her. I had no choice. It was so matter-of-fact, like I was being guided like a zombie. She wanted me to kill her, and good riddance to her.”
“The voices started out friendly,” he says. “They were giving me little pointers. How to take care of myself and the house. How to shop. I was glad for the help. I was getting ready for the rest of my life. I thought it was pretty strange, but there was nothing I could do about it. I heard them all the time. They would tell me if I was doing right or wrong. And I took it in like a fool. They said I had some kind of responsibility to God and country. I was the king of the universe, they said. I had to make sacrifices, and I had to do what they said. That’s when my mother started making me eat half my food.”
The line between mother and voice grew fainter until it did not exist. She was the voice, and the voice was her.
His obsession with her voice was becoming his whole life. She was a woman of unspeakable evil. He thought — still does — she killed Paul Lynde and Karen Carpenter. At times he figured that his mother wanted him to die, because his purposefulness — whatever that was — was over. At other times he thought that she would rather torment him until the day she died.
“She knew what she was doing,” he says. “She was ruining my life. That’s what she wanted to do.”
Mental illness + drugs = bad combination.The schizophrenic was hearing a different message. “She wanted me to throw my drums away, do all these impossible things. We’d been over the same ground so many times that I knew what was expected of me. She said, ‘You’re going to kill me,’ or something like that.”
- flyonthewall2983
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- therewillbeblus
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Tragic, and it seemed like his career was becoming more and more active too