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sevenarts · #401 Post by **sevenarts** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:53 am

Myra Breckinridge wrote:Maybe this one?

http://imdb.com/title/tt0095979/
http://www.mnsi.net/~pwatkins/journey.htm

Nick, do you mean 5 letters, original title or english title? Or both?

wow, that sounds amazing. more watkins would certainly be welcome.

Brian Oblivious · Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:29 am

It could be Andy Warhol's first film:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0187513/

Lino · #403 Post by **Lino** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:58 pm

Hmm, about those 4+5 boxsets -- there is a possibility that they might be Eric Rohmer's Tales of the Four Seasons and Comedies and Proverbes. The only trouble is that his Comedies(...) films were 6 and not 5...

Then again, they could perfectly well be Ozu films, be it separated into a Color and a B/W sets or a silents and talkies sets.

Nick, how many pages of speculation do we have to go through before you tell us the right answers?

Scharphedin2 · #404 Post by **Scharphedin2** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:12 pm

Myra Breckinridge wrote:Hmm, about those 4+5 boxsets -- there is a possibility that they might be Eric Rohmer's Tales of the Four Seasons and Comedies and Proverbes. The only trouble is that his Comedies(...) films were 6 and not 5...

I had the same thought. Could it be "just" the Comedies and Proverbs series with the addition of 3 short films?

Myra Breckinridge wrote:Nick, how many pages of speculation do we have to go through before you tell us the right answers?

... are you kidding. He is having way too much fun reading all of this.

Lino · #405 Post by **Lino** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:22 pm

Scharphedin2 wrote:
Myra Breckinridge wrote:Nick, how many pages of speculation do we have to go through before you tell us the right answers?
... are you kidding. He is having way too much fun reading all of this.

I figured as much... Well, can we at least by page 9 find out what those 4+5 boxsets are all about then, you Old Nicky?

Scharphedin2 · #406 Post by **Scharphedin2** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:33 pm

Myra Breckinridge wrote:I figured as much... Well, can we at least by page 9 find out what those 4+5 boxsets are all about then, you Old Nicky?

Hmm, page 9, you say... 8-[

In that case, I guess we better get moving with them suggestions in order to get there as quick as possible. So, all vows of non-involvement aside, here we go:

The 4+5 could be one/possibly two sets of animations... How about the selected works of Czech animator Jiri Trnka?!

Lino · #407 Post by **Lino** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:39 pm

Scharphedin2 wrote:The 4+5 could be one/possibly two sets of animations... How about the selected works of Czech animator Jiri Trnka?!

Wow! Another lover of Trnka on this forum! I never thought you'd be into animation as well, Scharph! Well, he only did 5 feature films but he did well more than 4 shorts... So, I guess that's a no-no even though I would have loved that it wasn't.

What about Karel Zeman?! I have all his features and shorts on DVD (thank the japanese!) but I wouldn't mind seeing them with a MoC spine number!

Arn777 · #408 Post by **Arn777** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:40 pm

Tales of 4 seasons have been relaesec by Artifical Eye, and Comedies & Proverbs by Arrow. Ozu sounds better, maybe piggy backing on the recent Carlotta box?

Scharphedin2 · #409 Post by **Scharphedin2** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:49 pm

Myra Breckinridge wrote:
Scharphedin2 wrote:The 4+5 could be one/possibly two sets of animations... How about the selected works of Czech animator Jiri Trnka?!
Wow! Another lover of Trnka on this forum! I never thought you'd be into animation as well, Scharph! Well, he only did 5 feature films but he did well more than 4 shorts... So, I guess that's a no-no even though I would have loved that it wasn't.

But, of course... In actual matter of fact, I have seen very little. They did on a rare occasion show some of the shorts on Danish television, when I was a kid. Later, I have read and looked at stills from his work, and Trnka would definitely be in the "holy grail" category for me.

Myra Breckinridge wrote:What about Karel Zeman?! I have all his features and shorts on DVD (thank the japanese!) but I wouldn't mind seeing them with a MoC spine number!

Now, Zeman is another one, whose work I would really like to see -- never had the chance to see a single one of his work. The one that always comes up, and looks really exciting, is his cut of Baron Munchausen. So, where did you manage to get these? You have a link...? (of course, I just know you do

)

Lino · #410 Post by **Lino** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:45 pm

Scharphedin2 wrote:Now, Zeman is another one, whose work I would really like to see -- never had the chance to see a single one of his work. The one that always comes up, and looks really exciting, is his cut of Baron Munchausen. So, where did you manage to get these? You have a link...? (of course, I just know you do )

Here they are! I first bought this boxset here:

http://www.chelucy.com/nsw/cine/karel_zeman/

along with this individual release here:

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=PIBA-3039

and last year, they released the remaining two:

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BWD-1515
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BWD-1516
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BWD-1513

They're also available on yesasia, in case you're wondering. Oh, and don't expect any kind of subtitles on them apart from japanese... But that didn't stop me from buying them -- Zeman's films are primarily visual and I'm able to enjoy them with or without subs. But that's entirely up to you, of course.

Scharphedin2 · #411 Post by **Scharphedin2** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:28 pm

... OK, so they are primarily visual, and the subtitles are removable, I take it. Still, I don't know. I really admire your gung-ho attitude though. These releases also look gorgeous in themselves, and this chelucy is a really cute outfit... do you own any of their other releases? (sorry to go off topic, but we gotta get to page 9 somehow

)

Lino · #412 Post by **Lino** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:16 pm

Yes, they're all removable. And no, I don't own any other DVD from them. But I've got my eye on those William Klein movies for a long time. But right now is not the right time either...

peerpee · #413 Post by **peerpee** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:26 pm

I can't announce anything yet, titles will be announced when everything's in place --- but I'd like to stop the rampant guessing by simply saying that everything has been correctly guessed somewhere in this thread already

toiletduck! · #414 Post by **toiletduck!** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:44 pm

Can't announce anything yet, eh, Nick?

peerpee wrote:I can't announce anything yet, titleS will be announced wHen everything's in place --- but I'd like to stOp the rampAnt guessing by simply saying that everytHing has been correctly guessed somewhere in this thread already

Would that anything include the release of Shoah, perhaps? Sooooo onto you, buddy.

-Toilet Dcuk

addz · #415 Post by **addz** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:29 am

peerpee wrote: 2.) F FOR FAKE has been put back to December to try and work out some stupendous extras for disc two. Can't promise a disc two yet.

Include the Reichenbach doc and you'll have a killer two disc set.

peerpee wrote:No more Naruse planned at the moment, other than the 3 film boxset that we've barely announced (just here at CCF I think).

And in the first Masters of Cinema Catalogue.

Looks as though we're going to be quite spoilt in 2007 with 53+ new films to add to our collections. Hopefully I'll have acquired all the current releases by the years end and that will allow me to purchase the 2007 releases as and when they are released.

With regards to the second catalogue, will this merely be an update of the original or will it contain completely new material regarding future releases?

peerpee · #416 Post by **peerpee** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:57 pm

Jack Rabbit Slim wrote: Include the Reichenbach doc and you'll have a killer two disc set.

We're trying...

Jack Rabbit Slim wrote: And in the first Masters of Cinema Catalogue.

Yes, forgot about that. It didn't mention which films, it just mentioned Naruse...

Jack Rabbit Slim wrote: With regards to the second catalogue, will this merely be an update of the original or will it contain completely new material regarding future releases?

It will be completely redesigned and feature titles that aren't in the current catalogue such as TONI, ABHIJAN, KWAIDAN, FUNERAL PARADE OF ROSES, FANTASTIC PLANET, THE SAVAGE INNOCENTS and any future titles that we can fit in there... time permitting.

Gordon · #417 Post by **Gordon** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:16 pm

Hey, hey, hey! The Dcuk cracked it! The man, sorry - plastic bird, detergent-thing is a genius.

NABOB OF NOWHERE · Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:31 pm

peerpee wrote:I can't announce anything yet, titles will be announced when everything's in place --- but I'd like to stop the Rampant guEssing by Simply saying thAt everything has beeN correctly guessed somewhere in this thread already

OR

peerpee wrote:I can't announce anything yet, titles will be announced when everything's in place --- but I'd like to stop the rampant gueSsing by simply saying that Everything has beeN correctly guesSed sOmewhere in this thread already

Lino · #419 Post by **Lino** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:02 pm

peerpee wrote:I can't announce anything yet, titles will be announced when everything's in place --- but I'd like to stop the rampant guessing by simply saying that everything has been correctly guessed somewhere in this thread already

In which page(s)?

Artois · #420 Post by **Artois** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:56 am

Is it me or do the films total 55? If i've not misunderstood something I guess that's the discrepancy peerpee mentioned, so I suppose the 2 documentaries are silents? (Nanook & Moana?)

denti alligator · Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:49 am

My understanding is that the Flaherty box has been pushed back (indefinitely?) and that the inclusion of Moana is, sadly, unlikely.

Artois · #422 Post by **Artois** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:12 am

I see, well with the multidisc box as a documentary which is likely as Project X are preparing to release Resan, then the total is 54 so one silent must be a documentary. Perhaps Nanook will be offered separately, but then what is the missing silent?

And from this we can assume it's not looking like Die Nibelungen will get a release until the latter half of 2007 then?

Scharphedin2 · #423 Post by **Scharphedin2** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:19 am

Artois, I think you are counting the box set of "9" twice by also counting the "4+5." Either that, or there may be something else that I have overlooked.

Artois · #424 Post by **Artois** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:19 pm

32 Keaton Box
3 Naruse Box
9 (4 + 5) Mizoguchi Boxes

1 Funeral Parade of Roses
1 Shoeshine
1 Fantastic Planet
1 F for Fake

4 Silents (2x Murnau)
2 Documentaries (1x multidisc resan)

= 54 films. The multidisc single-film box was mentioned separately to the box sets, so that's either 55 total or 54 if it's Resan and counts as one of the silents/documentaries. In which case there is one documentary and 2 silents over only 2 spare slots so one of them has to overlap. Or am I missing something?

Scharphedin2 · #425 Post by **Scharphedin2** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:49 pm

Peerpee: "Not including films already with their own page at the MoC Series website, we plan to release 53 films in the next year."

So, as I read it, the puzzle excludes Fantastic Planet, Shoeshine and Funeral of Roses.

What you get is:

1 F For Fake
+ 3 Naruse
+ 32 Keaton
+ 9 Mizoguchi (

)
+ 2 (mystery) Murnau
+ 2 documentaries (one of them Resan/Shoah
+ 2 more silents (which could possibly be part of the docs or Mizoguchis)
----------------------------
= 51 (at most)

Which then leaves room for a 3-4 other single film releases (not silent/not documentary).

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