Awards Season 2022

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therewillbeblus · #26 Post by **therewillbeblus** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:18 am

That's the worst AFI list I've seen in some time, though I've been pleasantly surprised to find Nope getting a fair amount of Top Ten love this week

#27 Post by **Matt** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:55 am

beamish14 wrote:I truly think that Top Gun is taking home the Oscar for Best Picture. They want a zeitgeist-capturing film to bring in high ratings, and it signified the continued viability of theatrical exhibition in the COVID era

I’m with you. People tend to forget that Best Picture is awarded to the producer(s), and you know who produced the hell of out their movie this year? Tom Cruise. The way he insisted on a theatrical release despite a long delay, the colossal success of that release, the long window before the VOD release and a second long window before rental availability. And it’s still not on a subscription streamer yet. He turned that movie out.

Spielberg is winning Best Director, too. The Academy feels sorry for him because of the botched release of West Side Story, they love movies about making movies (and Babylon ain’t it this year), and they would love to give an award to a filmmaker for making a film about himself.

Betting on Colin Farrell and Michelle Yeoh as well, but I think supporting awards are still up for grabs.

Pavel · #28 Post by **Pavel** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:36 am

I’m more confident in Ke Huy Quan winning Supporting Actor than Yeoh winning Actress since she could be overturned by someone like Cate Blanchett. Supporting Actress is not clear at all yet though

MV88 · #29 Post by **MV88** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:32 pm

Interesting that so soon after the Sight & Sound poll sparked debate over its #1 choice being too obscure and inaccessible, there’s an increasing number of people who think the Academy could make its most populist decision for Best Picture possibly ever by giving it to Top Gun: Maverick. For the record, I still don’t buy it (although its nomination seems assured and it’s very likely to win in 2 to 3 other categories), but I do at least recognize that it is at least a possibility at this point. Combined with last year’s Twitter polls featured on the show and the nixed idea from a few years back to create a separate Best Popular Film category, it’s clear there are people within the Academy who are actively trying to appeal more to the average moviegoer, but this really shouldn’t be surprising; despite the common public perception that the Oscars are snooty and only like “prestige” films, the voter base is the industry, not critics, and with that in mind they have a vested interest in the business of movies much more so than the art of cinema. That’s always been true, but with theater exhibition in a precarious position and the divide between critical and popular tastes apparently reaching new heights, the Oscars moving in the direction of something like Top Gun being a genuine Best Picture contender makes all the sense in the world even if I still suspect they’ll go with something else when all is said and done (I could, however, see it winning the PGA award).

hearthesilence · #30 Post by **hearthesilence** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:32 pm

therewillbeblus wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:18 am That's the worst AFI list I've seen in some time, though I've been pleasantly surprised to find Nope getting a fair amount of Top Ten love this week

I haven't seen Nope yet so unless it far exceeds my expectations, I also find this list massively underwhelming. Otherwise, the best of the bunch for me is Everything Everywhere All at Once, which had a lot to say about the Asian-American experience, but also had a lot of silliness that really wasn't to my taste. I wasn't a fan of The Fabelmans, but I'd rather see that win Best Picture than Top Gun.

therewillbeblus · #31 Post by **therewillbeblus** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:26 pm

The tides may very well turn, but I'll be surprised if anything other than The Fabelmans or Everything Everywhere All at Once wins BP, and one of those is a drastically more sensible bet than the other

Nope feels so much more like Peele making a movie for himself than the audience, similar to Wright's Last Night in Soho, and I think both work marvelously in complex ways when they're pitched as deceptively-simple genre pics

#32 Post by **Matt** » Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:39 am

I think Top Gun: Maverick is equally as much an “auteur” film as anything else in the running, it’s just that the auteur is the star/producer. I don’t see it as merely a populist choice but, as MV88 suggested, the longtime Hollywood insider/survivor choice: Tom Cruise’s personal popularity seems to be at a high point in his career, and there are just as many producers and executives as actors in the Academy. We’ll see what happens at the PGAs.

Just as many others have won Oscars when it was felt they were “due” them and not necessarily for their best work, I think there is a realization that billion-dollar-grossing action movies (and their most famous working representatives including Bruckheimer and Cruise) are becoming increasingly rare and it’s time to reward them before they disappear altogether.

Fabelmans’ prize will be Director. EEAAO’s will be Actress (maybe), Supp. Actor, and Original Screenplay as well as two or three technical/creative arts awards.

therewillbeblus · #33 Post by **therewillbeblus** » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:58 am

I think McDonagh will take screenplay, but I hope you’re right and I’m wrong in that category. There’ve been plenty of opportunities to reward the big blockbuster lately, and I think they would’ve gone with Black Panther if there was a chance. Top Gun: Maverick is not even pretending to be a good movie, but the commitment to real flight scenes is admirable and it’ll win something for that. A huge chunk of the voting body is not going to overlook all the hackneyed groan-inducing formulaic bits that make up its entire body outside of those flight scenes though.

MichaelB · #34 Post by **MichaelB** » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:47 pm

domino harvey wrote:I have not seen it, like most Oscar prognosticating, it's conjecture based on the positive word of mouth and perceived popularity

There was a huge row in India when RRR wasn’t picked as their official International Film submission despite being the most internationally successful Indian film by what I gather is a substantial margin. Granted, box-office performance shouldn’t really factor into these decisions, but it was felt that not giving the nomination to the one 2022 Indian film even average Academy voters might have heard of or even seen was something of an own goal.

So its US distributors are going for a full-on campaign for other Oscars, which seems to be bearing some fruit elsewhere already, as has been acknowledged above.

Given that we typically have polar opposite reactions to things (to an extent that I’m really finding quite fascinating), you might well loathe it - but for me it’s one of the 21st century’s most wildly entertaining films thus far, and it’s not entirely beyond the bounds of possibility that it nabs a couple of Oscars, with Best Director being a long shot but not a wholly unimaginable one. And the glorious ‘Naatu Naatu’ has a rather more realistic shot at Best Original Song - evidence here.

(If I wasn’t so busy and the films weren’t so long, I’d have managed more inroads into Rajamouli’s back catalogue by now, but I can thoroughly recommend both Eega and the lovely Maryada Ramanna, a present-day remake of Buster Keaton’s Our Hospitality that brings plenty of fresh ideas to the table - the early journey in the rickety train loses nothing from being updated to a modern but similarly ramshackle Indian train, and the whole murderous family feud concept transfers absolutely seamlessly to India’s own Deep South - without ever losing the utmost respect for the original. Indeed, the many nods to and witty riffs on Our Hospitality make the film even more entertaining for those who know the original backwards, which I suspect was fully Rajamouli’s intention: he absolutely reveres Keaton and has said so on many occasions. Tellingly, the only other 21st-century action blockbuster that for me rivals RRR was also strongly indebted to Keaton - I picked up on Mad Max Fury Road’s nods to The General on first viewing and was delighted to find that they were fully intentional.)

#35 Post by **DarkImbecile** » Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:03 am

LA Film Critics split their Best Picture award

brundlefly · #36 Post by **brundlefly** » Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:10 am

Winner, Best Award Split 2022.

therewillbeblus · #37 Post by **therewillbeblus** » Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:38 pm

That's the most Boston thing ever, a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde split between ultra-progressivism and being a dick

Pavel · #38 Post by **Pavel** » Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:16 pm

Nobody seems to have shared the Golden Globe noms. Good amount of pleasant and not-so-pleasant surprises

therewillbeblus · #39 Post by **therewillbeblus** » Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:45 pm

Like everyone, I shit on the Globes, but those Triangle of Sadness noms might be the highlight of the awards season

hearthesilence · #40 Post by **hearthesilence** » Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:46 pm

FWIW, IndieWire's annual poll results are in.

Results are similarly underwhelming - I don't think it was a great year of releases here in the U.S., but it was much more interesting than what's seen in those results. For comparison's sake, here's Richard Brody's lengthy list which reads like a stronger and more interesting survey of the year (though I don't think I'll ever value Amsterdam the way he does).

Red Screamer · #41 Post by **Red Screamer** » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:01 pm

If this is where we put best of lists, here are Rosenbaum's and Haskell's via Screen Slate. Rosenbaum's is alphabetical.

Jonathan Rosenbaum wrote:The Case of the Vanishing Gods (Ross Lipman)
The Fabelmans
Hit the Road
Memoria
Men
Potemkinistii (Radu Jude)
The Runner (Amir Naderi)
Stars at Noon
Tár
3,000 Years of Longing

Molly Haskell wrote:1. Tar
2. The Eternal Daughter
3. Eo
4. The Fabelmans
5. Saint Omer
6. One Fine Morning
7. Decision to Leave
8. Aftersun
9. In Front of Your Face
10. Broker

The Spielberg love is a little surprising coming from two skeptics.

hearthesilence · #42 Post by **hearthesilence** » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:09 pm

Definitely a surprise from Rosenbaum. FWIW Brody (who's arguably a greater Spielberg skeptic) also liked The Fablemans, though he did qualify his praise in his full-length review. (It also didn't make his year's best list either, even though it listed 30 films.)

I wasn't a fan, and I've generally become a skeptic of Spielberg's work as well, but I will say it feels like essential viewing for anyone who's interested in Spielberg. It really says a lot about him as an artist, both in the details recounted in his upbringing and in the way he views his family and his past.

EDIT:

Love Béla Tarr's ballot:

Béla Tarr wrote:I haven’t seen any good movies since years
Last good films were: Reygadas, Costa and Apitchatpongs movies.
I like their works
That’s all what I can say to you.
Best
Bela

Sent from my iPhone

#43 Post by **swo17** » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:11 pm

What's the Naderi film doing there?

Red Screamer · #44 Post by **Red Screamer** » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:20 pm

It must have had its first run in New York this year.

hearthesilence · #45 Post by **hearthesilence** » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:26 pm

I haven't gone through all the ballots yet, but who are Michael Mann Facts, Nuanced Opinion Guy and Steak Mtn.?

EDIT: Nm, they actually come up quite a bit on Google.

hearthesilence · #46 Post by **hearthesilence** » Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:33 pm

Film Comment poll results are fairly different.

Pasting it here as the page may be a pain to open for some browsers:

Spoiler

1. Crimes of the Future
2. EO
3. Aftersun
4. Saint Omer
5. The Eternal Daughter
6. All the Beauty and the Bloodshed
7. In Front of Your Face
8. Nope
9. The Novelist's Film
10. The Cathedral
11. Tár
12. Decision to Leave
13. The Girl and the Spider
14. The Fabelmans
15. One Fine Morning
16. A Night of Knowing Nothing
17. Stars at Noon
18. The Hole
19. Armageddon Time
20. (tie) Benediction
20. (tie) We're All Going to the World's Fair

lzx · #47 Post by **lzx** » Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:40 pm

Third time in a row a Neon film has topped the list.

#48 Post by **DarkImbecile** » Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:24 am

Oscar shortlists, including some fun inclusions (Crimes of the Future in Makeup, Retrograde in Documentary) and surprising omissions (Tár in Sound, Everything Everywhere All at Once in Visual Effects, Good Night Oppy in Documentary)

hearthesilence · #49 Post by **hearthesilence** » Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:23 am

Ugh, No Bears didn't make the cut for foreign language film. Not a surprise - despite great reviews, I get the feeling few are actually watching it. That doesn't bode well for Janus's campaign to secure a (justifiably deserved) Best Director nomination.

brundlefly · #50 Post by **brundlefly** » Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:37 am

hearthesilence wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:23 am JFC, No Bears didn't make the cut for foreign language film. Not a surprise, despite great reviews, I get the feeling few are actually watching it. That doesn't bode well for Janus's campaign to secure a (justifiably deserved) Best Director nomination.

Unless they finally changed the rules, it would not be eligible for Best International Film unless Iran submitted it. Iran officially submitted Houman Seyyedi's World War III this year. Hence the push for the director nod.

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