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kekid · #1826 Post by **kekid** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:20 pm

Thank you, Michael. Would the subtitle files be different based on whether we get the Blu Ray version or the DVD version?

MichaelB · #1827 Post by **MichaelB** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:34 pm

kekid wrote:Thank you, Michael. Would the subtitle files be different based on whether we get the Blu Ray version or the DVD version?

Depends on the framerate. A French DVD will almost certainly be 25fps, while a French BD will be either 23.976, 24 or 25fps. Given that it’s StudioCanal, I’d say the first of these is most likely, but I won’t know for certain until the discs arrive.

tenia · #1828 Post by **tenia** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:53 pm

Unfortunately, Studio Canal have done a few 1080i50 BDs, though they're rare and quite older releases, but one never know.

MichaelB · #1829 Post by **MichaelB** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:59 pm

Which of course is why it's impossible to come up with a definitive answer until I get hold of physical copies.

Even once I've established the framerate, the start point may need adjusting depending on whether any distributor logos have been changed at the start.

kekid · #1830 Post by **kekid** » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:41 am

Does anyone know if the Tavernier big box will have any subtitles?
The posting on Amazon.fr suggests that there are no subtitles.
This is important because the method of applying external subtitles on OPPO described by Eddielarkin works only if the DVD ot Blu Ray has at least one subtitle track.

MichaelB · #1831 Post by **MichaelB** » Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:01 am

I’m assuming not.

tenia · #1832 Post by **tenia** » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:29 pm

There might be French SDH subs but I don't know anybody here knows it yet.

Adam X · #1833 Post by **Adam X** » Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:20 pm

Guess I’ll be buying that old Lionsgate BD after all…

StudiocanalUK wrote:Our 30th anniversary editions [of Terminator 2] include the 2017 4K restoration overseen and approved by James Cameron.

bad future · #1834 Post by **bad future** » Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:24 pm

I’ve seen hearsay that this restoration actually looked good before it was DNR’d to hell for 3d conversion for its theatrical release, and that perhaps Cameron, consumed as he is by the Avatar sequel production, approved both but doesn’t realize the latter ended up being used for the home release. Can’t even remember where I saw that so I wouldn’t base any purchases on it, but it sounds just plausible enough that I’m holding on to a little hope for a welcome surprise when reviews are out for the SC disc. (This scenario doesn’t fit with the concept of Cameron as an agent of fastidious quality control, but it is easy for me to imagine that the guy who still hasn’t had 28 hours to approve transfers for The Abyss and True Lies also hasn’t watched the T2 UHD release since he thought he was done with it.)

#1835 Post by **swo17** » Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:02 pm

I actually have the 3D Blu-ray, as I'd read somewhere that it wasn't inflicted with the same issues. I need to test it out at some point

tenia · #1836 Post by **tenia** » Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:35 pm

It's the same. The whole thing has been messed up to death because someone somewhere thought it'd be better looking this way.
3D ? Titanic wasn't DNRed though.
Aliens ? It was willingly and still looks way better.
Cameron ? I doubt his notorious perfectionism would have let him pass on the color inconsistancies from shot to shot that ended up in the final restoration. He also specifically requested back then for the longer versions to be restored too but not here ?

I'm still quite certain this hasn't much to do with him and much more with Studio Canal.

#1837 Post by **Finch** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:52 pm

Vera Drake is finally getting a Blu-Ray release as a standalone disc from StudioCanal UK on November 8 (and I believe as part of a larger Mike Leigh boxset in Germany). No specs announced as yet.

SC UK also have a Jacques Becker title, 1945's Falbalas.

Special Features and Technical Specs:

BRAND NEW 4K RESTORATION OF THE FILM
Falbalas, a family affair - Featurette
Fashion and clothing, Jean Paul Gaultier - Featurette
Interview with star Micheline Presle
Auditions

senseabove · #1838 Post by **senseabove** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:17 am

Finch wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:52 pmSC UK also have a Jacques Becker title, 1945's Falbalas.

Hooray! Finally! I saw a DCP this over three years ago and loved it.

tolbs1010 · #1839 Post by **tolbs1010** » Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:57 pm

Very enthusiastic reviews of SC's 4k of The Servant. Looking forward to receiving my copy.

https://www.avforums.com/reviews/the-se ... view.19094

http://blueprintreview.co.uk/2021/09/th ... udiocanal/

#1840 Post by **Matt** » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:32 pm

Finch wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:52 pmSC UK also have a Jacques Becker title, 1945's Falbalas.

Trying to find someone who will ship it to the US without charging more for shipping than for the disc itself

#1841 Post by **Finch** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:08 am

It might take a few weeks or even a month or two after street date but since I moved to the US, I've gotten Studio Canal UK titles from Marketplace Sellers that ship to the US for acceptable shipping charges. I've not yet bought SC titles this soon after the UK release date so I couldn't tell you how long the waiting time is.

Calvin · #1842 Post by **Calvin** » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:18 pm

A slightly slimmer (11 films vs 18) German edition of the Tavernier box set has been put up for pre-order....and lists English subtitles!

kekid · #1843 Post by **kekid** » Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:24 pm

Calvin wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:18 pm A slightly slimmer (11 films vs 18) German edition of the Tavernier box set has been put up for pre-order....and lists English subtitles!

Does anyone know (1) which films are included, and (2) if the supplements are English-friendly?
Thank you.

Calvin · #1844 Post by **Calvin** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:59 am

kekid wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:24 pm
Calvin wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:18 pm A slightly slimmer (11 films vs 18) German edition of the Tavernier box set has been put up for pre-order....and lists English subtitles!
Does anyone know (1) which films are included, and (2) if the supplements are English-friendly?
Thank you.

I think the German set includes:

The Watchmaker of St. Paul
Let Joy Reign Supreme
The Judge and the Assassin
A Week's Vacation
Coup de torchon
A Sunday in the Country
L.627
La guerre sans nom
It All Starts Today
Safe Conduct
The Princess of Montpensier

No word on the extras being subtitled, but I do wonder if the set (or a few of the discs broken out individually) will make its way to the UK.

mhofmann · #1845 Post by **mhofmann** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:04 pm

I’m more thinking about whether that means the French set, or at least the French discs that are in the German set, will have English (or German) subtitles as well… essentially being the same discs.
This might stay undocumented and we’ll know once it’s out (have the French set pre-ordered).

Pepsi · #1846 Post by **Pepsi** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:55 pm

Three of the films in the box get also individual releases. Even not listed, it has to be the same discs than in the box. The German box has also French subs, so they are likely the same in the French box.

https://bluray-disc.de/blu-ray-filme/16 ... 1filme_set

https://bluray-disc.de/blu-ray-filme/16 ... on_st_paul

https://bluray-disc.de/blu-ray-filme/16 ... _dem_lande

https://bluray-disc.de/blu-ray-filme/16 ... r_saustall

MichaelB · #1847 Post by **MichaelB** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:57 pm

Pepsi wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:55 pmEven not listed, it has to be the same discs than in the box.

I believe this was only true of some of the StudioCanal Jean-Pierre Melville discs, not all of them.

Stefan Andersson · Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:26 pm

Details about the extras in the Tavernier box (click on the mauve "Liste des bonus") here:
https://digitalcine.fr/4k-bluray-dvd/ne ... obre-2021/

Click on the mauve box "Nouveautés de coffret" for info about the 9 previously unreleased titles (four are new restorations).

The writer also guesses that the 9 previously unreleased titles will have standalone releases in the future.

TMDaines · #1849 Post by **TMDaines** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:39 am

MichaelB wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:57 pm
Pepsi wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:55 pmEven not listed, it has to be the same discs than in the box.
I believe this was only true of some of the StudioCanal Jean-Pierre Melville discs, not all of them.

And some of the individual Becker Blu-rays were different too. SC aren't consistent.

mhofmann · #1850 Post by **mhofmann** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:23 pm

Looks like most of the films in the French Bertrand Tavernier set do not have German or English subtitles.

According to what's on the packaging, only the following films have the following subtitles in addition to French for the hard of hearing:

L.627: German & English
La Guerre sans nom: German & English (only for Disc 1/2)
Ça commence aujourd'hui: German & English
Laissez-passer: German & English
La Princesse de Montpensier: English
Quai d'Orsay: English

I spot checked L'horloger de Saint-Paul which is also included in the German set, and indeed, only French HoH subtitles.

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