The Godfather Trilogy (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972-1990)

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Re: The Godfather Trilogy (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972-1990)

#101 Post by Reverend Drewcifer » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:30 pm

Bob Odenkirk as Robert Evans, please and thank you.

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#102 Post by beamish14 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:30 pm

This is just getting stupid. Now Barry Levinson is making a film about the production of The Godfather, and they've already announced
some of the cast.

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#103 Post by domino harvey » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:42 pm

Oscar Isaac as Coppola though is pretty inspired

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#104 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:15 am

beamish14 wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:30 pm
This is just getting stupid. Now Barry Levinson is making a film about the production of The Godfather, and they've already announced
some of the cast.
Elle Fanning will play Ali MacGraw

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#105 Post by hearthesilence » Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:06 am

First thought was, "what does Ali MacGraw have to do with The Godfather?" - didn't know she was married to Robert Evans.

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#106 Post by Constable » Fri May 07, 2021 11:00 am

I've never read the Godfather novel(s?), but my understanding is that they're regarded as trash. Coppola is apparently quoted as saying "Pretty cheap stuff." Yet the films are obviously canonized and regarded as great art.

How is it that these trashy novels yielded such highly esteemed films? Was there much change in the adaptation process or what?

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#107 Post by barbarella satyricon » Fri May 07, 2021 11:27 am

Maybe this Pauline Kael review is something you’ve already seen and where you picked up the thing about the novel being “trash”, but skimming the opening of the piece just now, it does seem to touch on some key things that were changed (i.e. things left out) in the adaptation process.

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#108 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri May 07, 2021 12:13 pm

My dad liked the novel, but admitted it wasn't high art, and I have friends who hate it. I remember being a pretty young child and my dad telling me about the subplot with Sonny's enormous genitalia, the issues with his wife being able to cope with it, and the woman who he has an affair with who can cope with it due to her own abnormality. There are more details I won't share here that you can go look up, but it definitely isn't something you forget when you're like nine years old.

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#109 Post by Big Ben » Fri May 07, 2021 12:39 pm

The book also has some structural differences. We learn about Sonny's murder in retrospect after his corpse is brought to a morgue and then we're then told about how it happened afterward. The film is far more straightforward and for the better I think.

Also as therewillbeblus said above there's a weird subplot about Sonny's junk that really just isn't necessary.

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#110 Post by CJG » Fri May 07, 2021 12:40 pm

Yeah, my memory of the novel is that about half of it is about Sonny's wife and her gynecological problems.

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#111 Post by Rayon Vert » Fri May 07, 2021 12:52 pm

There is a quick reference to that subplot in the wedding scene.
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#112 Post by domino harvey » Fri May 07, 2021 1:46 pm

I thought she loved to fish :(

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#113 Post by Roscoe » Fri May 07, 2021 1:48 pm

CJG wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:40 pm
Yeah, my memory of the novel is that about half of it is about Sonny's wife and her gynecological problems.
Yeah, no. It's Lucy, Sonny's mistress, who has the gynecological problems that are given a good deal of attention (it's worth noting that Lucy is also one of the few to get away from the Corleones unscathed -- she gets surgery for her, shall we say, issues, and seems to be settling down with a nice Jewish doctor when her section of the novel ends). There's also a significant amount of attention given to Nino, a friend of Johnny Fontane who manages to drink himself to death, and Johnny Fontane himself gets more pages than you'd think possible given the amount of screen time he gets in the film. Which is another way of saying that Coppola streamlined the story, eliminating some stuff that would only have dragged his film into the three or four hour or more mark.

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#114 Post by Stefan Andersson » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:16 pm

For the record--

Godfather III, comparisons between various versions:
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=785871
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=785871

More comparisons for all Godfather films, including the Novel for Television and various European TV versions, in German:
https://www.schnittberichte.com/svds.ph ... el&ID=1285
https://www.schnittberichte.com/svds.ph ... el&ID=1283
https://www.schnittberichte.com/svds.ph ... el&ID=1284
https://www.schnittberichte.com/svds.ph ... el&ID=3640

Go to all links and see under "Schnittberichte" (=cuts detailed and verified) and "Fassungen" (=versions) for relevant links to comparisons. "Der Pate" means "The Godfather" in German.

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