Forthcoming: California Split
- dwk
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Forthcoming: California Split
Yesterday, Craig Keller posted on twitter that Criterion is going release California Split.
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
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Excellent news, that's my second favorite Altman film and just a wonderful gem from start to finish
- Cronenfly
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Wonderful! Hope they get my avatar for an interview while he is still alive/semi-coherent, and that Kino Lorber does the same for The Touch, if that is indeed coming. Hope the music issues/cuts on Split have been resolved, too (I assume they have if Criterion is going to the effort of putting it out).
Edit-Just read Keller's tweet, seems that the forthcoming CC Split should be uncut.
Edit-Just read Keller's tweet, seems that the forthcoming CC Split should be uncut.
- chiendent
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Finally! Saw it in a double feature with The Long Goodbye (my first time seeing either film) and somehow came away liking it more. Such a fun movie and I'm pretty excited to see that basketball scene again.
- Drucker
- Your Future our Drucker
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Count me in as well. Was recently kicking myself for missing a screening last year.
- hearthesilence
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Re: Forthcoming: California Split
With all the original music cleared and no generic substitutions, this is great news all around.
- MoonlitKnight
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Indeed. Incidentally, Olive Films is also finally releasing his obscure debut "The Delinquents" next month. Now if someone would just put out "H.E.A.L.T.H." and the miniseries version of "Vincent and Theo" (an opportunity Olive did NOT take in their reissue from a couple years ago)...
- rapta
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By pure coincidence, I actually watched this for the first time on Amazon Instant Video just last night. It was in HD, but clearly from an older master, but looked much better than I expected.
Very happy to hear Criterion are releasing it on Blu-ray, and hope that means it'll get a UK release as well (being a Sony title). Definitely one of the best Altman titles I've seen so far!
PS: I realised whilst watching it how close Fleck & Boden's Mississippi Grind is to this film. It's basically a remake, in fact, but with a different setting and slightly different characterisation. Be interesting to see if it's mentioned on the Criterion release, either in an extra or in the booklet/leaflet.
Very happy to hear Criterion are releasing it on Blu-ray, and hope that means it'll get a UK release as well (being a Sony title). Definitely one of the best Altman titles I've seen so far!
PS: I realised whilst watching it how close Fleck & Boden's Mississippi Grind is to this film. It's basically a remake, in fact, but with a different setting and slightly different characterisation. Be interesting to see if it's mentioned on the Criterion release, either in an extra or in the booklet/leaflet.
- A man stayed-put
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Even down to the poster.rapta wrote:I realised whilst watching it how close Fleck & Boden's Mississippi Grind is to this film
- Dead or Deader
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MoonlitKnight wrote:Indeed. Incidentally, Olive Films is also finally releasing his obscure debut "The Delinquents" next month. Now if someone would just put out "H.E.A.L.T.H." and the miniseries version of "Vincent and Theo" (an opportunity Olive did NOT take in their reissue from a couple years ago)...
For those who are Altman completist, one user on Youtube uploaded H.E.A.L.T.H from the airing on the Fox Movie Channel, all in it's intended 2:35;1 aspect ratio!
Link
- Randall Maysin
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Alas, only the credit sequence is in widescreen. Well, not really "alas", as I don't care for this film.
- Dead or Deader
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Just notice the P&S after the credits. I'd assume the film would be untacked by the channel given Fox history on widescreen formatting, so it rather unfortunate even if the film is consider one of the worst amongst Altman career. It's likely that the distributors hasn't released the film in any home video capacity was due to the critical trashing in the brief run, though with the market becoming more of a niche and Altman having a sizable fanbase you would hope for one of the speciality labels to pick the film, regardless of the quality.
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I met him only two years ago and he seemed incredibly sharp and excited. Have you heard that he hasn't been in the best health?Cronenfly wrote:Wonderful! Hope they get my avatar for an interview while he is still alive/semi-coherent
- whaleallright
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A small note about this film's role in Altman's career: it's actually the first film on which he used radio microphones, each recording to a different track, on his actors. This enabled him to develop the sound stylization (in which numerous actors in different parts of the set often sound equally "up front") that he became famous for with Nashville. Critics who should know better (including the author of the liner essay for Criterion's McCabe & Mrs. Miller edition) have written about this technique being used for earlier Altman films, but that isn't the case. You can compare the muddy dialogue track for McCabe to the almost unnervingly clear track of California Split to get a sense of what changed.
- justeleblanc
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Yea... McCabe was recorded in Canada by a sound crew that used very few microphones. The dialogue was largely off-axis as a result. Altman had to take the raw recordings to Warners in LA in order to clean up the mix before its release.whaleallright wrote:A small note about this film's role in Altman's career: it's actually the first film on which he used radio microphones, each recording to a different track, on his actors. This enabled him to develop the sound stylization (in which numerous actors in different parts of the set often sound equally "up front") that he became famous for with Nashville. Critics who should know better (including the author of the liner essay for Criterion's McCabe & Mrs. Miller edition) have written about this technique being used for earlier Altman films, but that isn't the case. You can compare the muddy dialogue track for McCabe to the almost unnervingly clear track of California Split to get a sense of what changed.
- MoonlitKnight
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I've seen the film; it's just that it's the only one that has not yet been released on DVD and/or Blu-ray.Dead or Deader wrote:For those who are Altman completist, one user on Youtube uploaded H.E.A.L.T.H from the airing on the Fox Movie Channel, all in it's intended 2:35;1 aspect ratio!
Link
- bearcuborg
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Guess I should sell my current copy while I can get something for it...
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- Cronenfly
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Nope, no special info, I am sure he is still okay. I just worry generally about anyone over the age of about seventy or so taking a sudden turn.The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:I met him only two years ago and he seemed incredibly sharp and excited. Have you heard that he hasn't been in the best health?Cronenfly wrote:Wonderful! Hope they get my avatar for an interview while he is still alive/semi-coherent
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Availability might be more of an issue; unlike most of the 70s leading men, Gould has been remarkably busy in television over the past few years and is currently shooting the new CBS drama Doubt.Cronenfly wrote:Nope, no special info, I am sure he is still okay. I just worry generally about anyone over the age of about seventy or so taking a sudden turn.The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:I met him only two years ago and he seemed incredibly sharp and excited. Have you heard that he hasn't been in the best health?Cronenfly wrote:Wonderful! Hope they get my avatar for an interview while he is still alive/semi-coherent
- bearcuborg
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Hopefully the interview is not done by Adam Carolla.
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- Forrest Taft
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Re: Forthcoming: California Split
I'm unsure if it's US releases you're refering to, but the long version of Vincent and Theo is out on DVD in the UK.MoonlitKnight wrote:Indeed. Incidentally, Olive Films is also finally releasing his obscure debut "The Delinquents" next month. Now if someone would just put out "H.E.A.L.T.H." and the miniseries version of "Vincent and Theo" (an opportunity Olive did NOT take in their reissue from a couple years ago)...
- knives
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All this talk on Gould and no love for his other half?
- GaryC
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This film is currently available on Mubi UK in HD, and their copy runs 108 minutes. I haven't seen the film before and haven't watched it on Mubi yet, but I'll keep an eye and ear out for the music that was cut out in previous releases.
- whaleallright
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Was there any non-diegetic music cut out of the current video release, or is just (as I've heard) the music by the lounge singer at one of the casinos the lead characters visit? I've never brought myself to watch the DVD.
- zedz
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I think there was also an instance of "Happy Birthday" (not) sung to one of the main characters.whaleallright wrote:Was there any non-diegetic music cut out of the current video release, or is just (as I've heard) the music by the lounge singer at one of the casinos the lead characters visit? I've never brought myself to watch the DVD.
Actually, DVD Beaver seems to have a detailed list of the cuts: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReview ... review.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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