1980s List Discussion and Suggestions (Lists Project Vol. 3)

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Viewing Log:

Os Canibais (Manoel de Oliveira, 1988): The film, told entirely through operatic singing, revolves around a high society gathering and the various intrigues that develop among them. Jeeeeezus is this film boring as sin with the...HOLY SHIT! That guy just revealed himself to be a quadruple amputee and thrust himself into a burning fireplace when his romantic overtures were rejected. Oh my God, now he's singing while burning to death in the fireplace! Wow, this film is worth sitting through the intentionally tedious first half to enjoy the entertaining second half when the wheels come off. The final scene
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where a pair of cannibals who have just eaten their brother turn into wolves and attack their lawyer who transforms into a pig
is one of the great and amazing absurdest moments in the history of film. I had no idea that the film was going to follow this trajectory when I first began watching it, and I can honestly say that I don't think that I've ever gone from hating to loving a movie as quickly as I did this one.

Freeze, Die, Come to Life (Vitali Kanevsky, 1989): Thanks to Zedz for highlighting this one early on in the project. It was already on my radar, but his recommendation gave me the extra push to check it out, and what a magnificent experience it was! The film chronicles the life of a pair of children, Galia and Valerka (played with charming ease by Dinara Drukarova and Pavel Nazarov), as they struggle to survive in Siberia toward the end of Stalin's reign. Although they initially begin as rivals for their street corner sales routines, they develop a kind of friendship where they alleviate each other's pain while still remaining rivals. The black and white cinematography is gorgeous and contains some shots that I'll never forget. Great film from the end of the Soviet era.

The Loveless (Kathryn Bigelow and Monty Montgomery, 1981): This, the first film of both Kathryn Bigelow and Willem Dafoe, tells the story of a 50s biker gang that enters a small southern town and causes great discomfort among its uptight residents. The film has a tin ear for dialogue and often relies more on cliches than anything that sounds like phrases that people actually say. However, the story, a potboiler about a simmering town with secrets and racial hostilities, is a fairly decent one that leads to a climax that I didn't expect. Marin Kanter, playing a sexually abused teenager acting out against her father, is the film's standout. It's a shame that she only had a handful of other screen credits. It's far from a great film, but there's enough here to give it a tepid recommendation.

My Twentieth Century (Ildikó Enyedi, 1989): Enyedi's wild free form exploration of gender, identity, and politics in the early twentieth century Eastern Europe. As the film begins, a pair of identical twins struggle to make a living selling matchbooks on the streets. That night two men take the girls in different directions, with neither one to see the other again. As young women in 1900, the two women, both played magnificently by Dorota Segda, find themselves with different personalities (one frivolous, the a dedicate anarchist) and criss crossing each other's paths aboard the Orient Express. The film has some great vignettes (including a look a hunter from the perspective of a family of chimpanzee, and the world's most sexist college professor), but the string of loosely connected scenes never feels like it adds up to more than the sum of it's parts. It is a good film, but I can't help but feel a wee bit disappointed by the fact that it isn't a little better.

Out of Africa (Sydney Pollack, 1985): I may have to turn in my Criterion forum too cool for school membership card over this one, but I'll be damned if I didn't kind of enjoy this one. 1985's best picture Oscar winner stars Meryl Streep as Karen, a wealthy Danish woman trapped in a loveless, prearranged marriage to an African farmer, and Robert Redford as Denys, the big game hunter that steals her heart in her early twentieth century coffee plantation. Yes, Pollack could have been more judicious in his editing and trimmed the film down from its nearly three hour run time, but I never was bored by it at all. The film is neither the best of '85 as the academy held, nor is it the apotheosis of cinematic snooze the way that some posters around here have treated it. It's an okay film at best.

Pale Rider (Clint Eastwood, 1985): Clint Eastwood pulls double duty behind and in front of the camera in this film which tells the story of a preacher that enters the lives of a small gold mining community which is under attack from the large mining operation in town. The film plays out as a slightly less serious version of High Plains Drifter in that Eastwood's character is strongly hinted at being a supernatural savior who enters the lives of the oppressed masses (led in this case by Michael Moriarty, in what may be his best performance). It's not as good as the other film, but Eastwood does his best here (though the hickory stick fight struck me as poorly shot, that's just a niggling) with what he has. I'd still give it an easy recommendation.

Rikyu (Hiroshi Teshigahara, 1989): Rentarô Mikuni stars as the titular character, a late 16th century tea expert who becomes an adviser to a warlord (played by Tsutomu Yamazaki) who is on the verge of unifying Japan and possibly invading Eastern Asia. The film apparently is often compared to A Man for All Seasons with Rikyu as a Japanese Thomas More, refusing to rubber stamp his master's plans. I hate to use the criticism of being boring to describe a film, but that's exactly what I found it: tedious and Teshigahara's worst. Perhaps I failed to appreciate it in part because of Sling Shot's disastrous DVD which is horribly cropped and clearly a VHS conversion with burned in subtitles. If you plan to watch the movie, then I strongly recommend avoiding this edition.
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#302 Post by swo17 »

You used the word "titular" for the wrong blurb!
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#303 Post by bamwc2 »

swo17 wrote:You used the word "titular" for the wrong blurb!
I'm a little stoned on pain killers right now, and have no idea what you're talking about.
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#304 Post by domino harvey »

It's a reference to this UCB sketch
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#305 Post by Feego »

As this is the first time I am participating in one of these projects, I have a question regarding alternate versions of films (i.e. director's cuts vs. original theatrical versions). For example, the director's cut of Cinema Paradiso was released in 2002, and the Final Cut of Blade Runner was released in 2007. Is it okay to consider these versions of the films for this project, or should we stick to the versions that were originally released in the 80s?
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#306 Post by swo17 »

You can only vote for Blade Runner and Cinema Paradiso during the '80s project. I don't care which version of these films you're thinking of when you vote for them.
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#307 Post by Feego »

Thanks. I actually never gave a thought to voting for either of these films during any decade except the 80s, I just wanted to make sure the later re-cuts were eligible this round.
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#308 Post by swo17 »

Yes, although you are advised to just vote for, say, "Blade Runner" in general, as that is how everyone else will be voting for it. It's understood in a case like this that different people may prefer different cuts, but they're all basically on board with the whole cultural and historical aura of Blade Runner. If you insist that there is only one particular cut that you want to vote for, I can reflect that in the final tally, but your pick will most likely end up as an orphan that way.
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#309 Post by Feego »

Got it. I will specify which version I prefer (or at least which one I watched) as I post my write-ups just for the sake of discussion, but on my final list I will only list the title.
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#310 Post by flyonthewall2983 »

bamwc2 wrote:The film plays out as a slightly less serious version of High Plains Drifter in that Eastwood's character is strongly hinted at being a supernatural savior who enters the lives of the oppressed masses (led in this case by Michael Moriarty, in what may be his best performance).
I never interpreted it that way. The preacher seemed more like someone who was hiding from his past and had done it so well that his guise became a bigger part of who he was.
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flyonthewall2983 wrote:
bamwc2 wrote:The film plays out as a slightly less serious version of High Plains Drifter in that Eastwood's character is strongly hinted at being a supernatural savior who enters the lives of the oppressed masses (led in this case by Michael Moriarty, in what may be his best performance).
I never interpreted it that way. The preacher seemed more like someone who was hiding from his past and had done it so well that his guise became a bigger part of who he was.
I totally understand your interpretation, but here's my case. He mysteriously arrived in town after Megan prayed for God to send a miracle to rescue the community because otherwise "we're all going to die". He appeared out of nowhere when Hull was being beaten and single handedly took out the entire posse. When first riding into camp Megan and her mother (Carrie Snodgress) were reading Revelations aloud, with Preacher interposed as the Horesman of Death (aka the Pale Rider).

And then there was this...
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Stockburn (John Russell) played a renegade lawman known for using his posse to cut men down. Preacher knew him, but Stockburn can't place him despite the nagging feeling that the two had met before. In the final shoot out, Preacher cut down all of Stockburn's men when the sheriff began studying his face. A look of shear terror comes over Stockburn's face as he screams something along the lines of "Oh my God, it's you!". He grabs for his gun, but before it can be unholstered Preacher shoots him down. You can obviously read this as Stockburn looking into his past and finally recognizing Preacher as someone terrifying that he had come across before. However, given the points that I had mentioned before, I understood Stockburn's reaction as realizing that the Preacher was someone the followed him around for most of his career: the embodiment of death itself. That would certainly explain the fear that washed over him, fear that seemed to be reserved for the sort of spirit of vengeance from High Plains Drifter rather than a mortal man no matter how good of a gunslinger he is.
Regardless, I would be shocked if the screenwriters and Eastwood didn't have these duel interpretations in mind when making it. The film can be read as either a traditional western or as a religious fantasy film set in the West. I think that either interpretation works well.
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bamwc2 wrote:Freeze, Die, Come to Life (Vitali Kanevsky, 1989): Thanks to Zedz for highlighting this one early on in the project. It was already on my radar, but his recommendation gave me the extra push to check it out, and what a magnificent experience it was! The film chronicles the life of a pair of children, Galia and Valerka (played with charming ease by Dinara Drukarova and Pavel Nazarov), as they struggle to survive in Siberia toward the end of Stalin's reign. Although they initially begin as rivals for their street corner sales routines, they develop a kind of friendship where they alleviate each other's pain while still remaining rivals. The black and white cinematography is gorgeous and contains some shots that I'll never forget. Great film from the end of the Soviet era.
The distinctive look of the film is reportedly due to Kanevsky shooting it on old, long-expired black and white filmstock. Quite a big risk to take, but getting his filmstock basically for free was the only way he could afford to make the film.
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Just as a reminder, this coming Monday, an '80s list crossover round of film club starts here, where we'll be discussing James L. Brooks' Broadcast News. Rather conveniently, you can order it direct from Criterion for 50% off RIGHT NOW.
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Viewing Log:

The Asthenic Syndrome (Kira Muratova, 1989): Soviet filmmaker Kira Muratova crafts a bizarrely elliptical film that begins with a sepia toned story about recently widowed doctor who explodes in fits of rage and sorrow like breaking all of the glasses in her apartment and trying to fill her void with sex. About forty minutes or so in to this story, the film becomes color and we learn that the previous story was merely a film being watched in class by a group of uninterested and ungrateful students. We then follow this group of new characters as they experience a variety of odd situations including one chronicling about a dozen or so fully nude models. Given the sexual repression of Soviet censors at the time, that scene alone must have raised their blood pressure! This is very heady (and not to mention lengthy) material, but I found it rather rewarding.

The Fourth Man (Paul Verhoeven, 1983): Verhoeven regulars Jeroen Krabbé and Renée Soutendijk star in this psycho-sexual thriller about the mental collapse of a Dutch writer. Gerard is a bisexual, alcoholic, Catholic novelist with disturbingly violent fantasy of murder. Christine is the fan who seduces him and keeps him with the promise of introducing him to her lover Herman (whose picture he particularly fancies). Eventually Gerard learns of the open secret in Christine's town about the tragic deaths of all three of her former husbands. Is she a black widow with eyes on making him number four or is he a paranoiac with an imagination run amok? In this, the last of Verhoeven's Dutch films, he showcases his penchant for over the top sexual fantasy that has a highly misogynistic bent (e.g. Gerard's fantasy of having Christine castrate him). Like many of his films, this can be difficult to watch, but Verhoeven has enough going on here to make it a worthwhile experience.

Garlic Is As Good As Ten Mothers (Les Blank, 1980): Blank's free association take on the culinary delight makes for a fun and spirited look at the counter culture that had sprung up around this bulb. There are more good natured freaks here than you would have guessed, ranging from a cult leader wearing pajamas, a garland of garlic, and a giant garlic hat to a flamenco dancing garlic chef. You won't really learn anything new about garlic by watching this, but you will meet some truly unforgettable people. Definitely recommended!

The Young Rebels (Keisuke Kinoshita, 1980): Kinoshita's The Young Rebels is an overly long mess of a film examining the cause and effects of juvenile delinquency. The film uses a framing device of a newspaper reporter who visits a discotheque in search of his story on the subject, and follows him as he interviews delinquents and their friends and families. Most of the stories here are told in flashback, and the main problem is that there are just too many of them. Some of the characters get covered in just a few minutes, while others seem to drag on for ever. There is some touching material here, but none of it holds a candle to the director's best work, and whatever emotional connection we begin to feel for the characters is often undercut by the film's seemingly terrible pacing. Strangely, the film also begins being told from a first person perspective (à la Dark Passage) whenever the reporter is talking to anyone. In the final third of the film, however, Kinoshita seems to have abandoned the concept and began to shoot him from a third person perspective. Why the shift? Beats me.
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swo17 wrote:Just as a reminder, this coming Monday, an '80s list crossover round of film club starts here, where we'll be discussing James L. Brooks' Broadcast News. Rather conveniently, you can order it direct from Criterion for 50% off RIGHT NOW.
An especially appropriate reminder, since it is thanks to the viewings from the last round of the 80s List that I first saw this classic! I hope we get some healthy participation this time-- I plan to aggressively engage all who enter!
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I know Broadcast News back to front. Hardly a day goes by that I don't quote it or think of it. Albert Brooks' "What do you think the devil's going to look like" speech is for me as stirring and unforgettable as the Ned Beatty monologue in Network. So I will certainly drop in and try my best to hold it together against all you smarties.

Shifting gears completely, I gave Leone's Once Upon a Time in America another shot this weekend, and again found its engaging directorial style derailed completely by a rampant misogyny that I feel is exceptionally hard to take. I understand the defense that the film is documenting the ugliness of its central character, but I suppose what bugs me most about
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the infamous rape scene halfway through the film is not the content of the scene itself -- it's no worse or more graphic than the murder sequence in Frenzy, which I think is masterful -- but the fact that it's in the middle of a part of movie absolutely dripping with romantic lighting and a sense that we're meant to feel great pathos for the De Niro character Noodles. This is especially awful in the scene just afterward, when the violins swell up and we're clearly meant to feel sorry for Noodles after he's just raped his childhood "sweetheart." Again, it may very well have been Leone's intention for this not to sit right with the viewer, but I just can't stretch myself that far. Even if it's with a sense of irony, I can't make the leap of storytelling that intuitively feels that loathsome to me. Especially when other moments in the (far too long) picture, like the oft-cited gun-nipple shot toward the beginning, come across as supporting the idea that its entire attitude toward women and sex is dreadfully wrongheaded.
At any rate, I read the CF thread on the film just afterward and several articles linked therein and felt somewhat validated that others, including some who generally adore Leone, are put off by the same things. But I'm more than willing to hear any further spirited defenses from current participants.
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Steven Spielberg

Raiders of the Lost Ark (BD Paramount)
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (BD Universal)
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (BD Paramount)
The Color Purple (BD Warner)
Empire of the Sun (BD Warner)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade(BD Paramount)
Always (DVD Universal)

Though he's all too often dismissed among cineaphiles for making Oscar bait today, Steven Spielberg arguably had one of the strongest showings of any director in the 1980s, and certainly one of his strongest runs as a director in that decade. He began the decade with a script that came from Lawrece Kasdan, George Lucas, and Philip Kauffman, which he would transform into one of the great popcorn flicks of its day. Raiders of the Lost Ark introduced the world to Indiana Jones, the globetrotting archeology professor whose adventures revitalized the excitement of the mostly forgotten serials of the 1930s. The film doesn't try to be overly cerebral or really anything other than the rip roaring adventure that it is. Perhaps that (not to mention an excellent supporting turn from Karen Allen) is why the film succeeds so well. The magic had faded somewhat with 1984's sequel, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, which finds Dr. Jones with a whole new cast of supporting characters, new enemies to fight, and a different pantheon of gods to work with. However, Spielberg's future wife Kate Capshaw was a step down from Ms. Allen's masterful performance in the first film, and the gender dynamic of switching the female lead from an ass kicker to an annoying damsel in distress doesn't work nearly as well. Yet, there is still enough value in the main story and charm in Harrison Ford's performance to make this an easy recommendation. The series sunk even lower, however, with 1989's Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, a return to Christian mythology and Nazi fighting that also finds Jones reconciling with his stern father, played by Sean Connery. The film is far from bad, but is also bogged down by a mostly irrelevant introduction starring River Phoenix and more weak chemistry with a female lead. Once again, the charm of Spielberg's direction and Ford's performance are barely enough to make it a worthwhile experience. Since we're on the subject of his adventures, this would also be the place to mention his 1982 mega-hit E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, which tells the story of the bond between Elliot (Henry Thomas) and the kind hearted alien that was accidentally left behind by his crew. Based off of a script written by Harrison Ford's then wife, the film flirts with the sort of maudlin sentimentalism that would mar a good many of Spielberg's later works, but still manages to stay grounded via the emotional connection between E.T. and the young boy.

Spielberg also directed a trio of dramas this decade, beginning with The Color Purple. The film, which is a lock for my list, is an adaptation of Alice Walker's book by the same name. While you might think that a middle aged Jewish white guy wouldn't be the right choice to direct a film about the black female southern experience, he does an amazing job here, though most of the praise probably lies in the hands of Walker and the film's stars. Whoopie Goldberg is perfect in her role in the film, while both Danny Glover and Oprah Winfrey deliver strong supporting performances. 1987's Empire of the Sun finds him filming another novel, this time Tom Stoppard's adaptation of J.G. Ballard's fictionalized account of his experiences living in Japanese occupied Shanghai. Starring a young Christian Bale, the film contains some truly achingly beautiful imagery, and may well be Spielberg's most visually impressive work. A tightly told story, with an overlapping dreamlike quality make this one another strong contender for my list. The director, however, rounded out the decade with one of his greatest misfires up to the point (though in looking back now, it probably doesn't rank among the worst of his worst), 1989's Always. Intended to be a tearjerker about the undying love between Holly Hunter and her departed dashing lover, played my Richard Dreyfuss, the film falters for me because nothing about Dreyfuss's performance convinces me that a woman would ever find him more irresistible than a wet sock. To make matters worse, the film also marks the beginning of Spielberg 2.0, moving from making crowd pleasing flicks and genuine dramatic fair to manipulative Oscar bait. While he'll occasionally return to form for a flick or two, it's unfortunately the director's worst instincts that tend to appear on film nowadays.
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#318 Post by domino harvey »

I'll only be voting for Raiders of the Lost Ark for now (I've seen all but Always, which is in my unwatched 80s trousseau, and Empire of the Sun, which I'll probably pick up for the War list), but I would say the Last Crusade is quite chummy with "bad," as I think I ran through in the thread for the last Indiana Jones film-- though I enjoyed it as a kid. Highest Spielberg charting title for me will be the ultimate kids adventure movie (though he only produced), the Goonies.
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#319 Post by knives »

Not to be a jerk, though I am, what is with the The Goonies love? Admittedly I've always been at a distance from the films my generation finds sacred, but that is possibly the most beguiling one to me.
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As an adult I've rewatched many of the films I loved as a child searching for those experiences that completely take me back to the wide-eyed enthusiasm and optimism of childhood and the most effective turned out to be the Goonies. I didn't even realize how much I'd internalized the entirety of it until it knocked me out on revisit. I cannot even pretend to be objective about it, it's a love it or leave it affair, but I wouldn't trade the joy I felt while revisiting it for anything. It'll place high on my list, because I've become more comfortable voting for films I love regardless of prestige or importance
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#321 Post by knives »

Hmm, I'll have to rewatch it, but as a kid I remember detesting the film.
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I don't know how much this may solidify the theory that Spielberg was extremely hands on during the making of Poltergeist, but it is interesting to note that Poltergeist features (appropriately for a supernatural film) a scene in which A Guy Named Joe is playing on the television, which Always is the remake of!
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Spetters (1980, Paul Verhoeven)
This is the first of Verhoeven’s Dutch films that I’ve seen, and what’s most surprising is how relatively low-key it is (at least compared to his American work). The story of four blue-collar young people (three men, one woman) and their attempts to break free of their dead-end jobs through the sport of motocross is compelling both as a coming-of-age movie and an examination of class distinctions. The flawed characters and their various goals are well developed, and there’s even room for some mild satire of the media through Verhoeven regular Jeroen Krabbe as a manipulating and manipulated TV host. Verhoeven’s frank display of nudity and sexuality was controversial in its day, but it is a natural part of the story and never feels exploitative. This is the most sensitive I have ever seen Verhoeven, although that sensitivity is nearly derailed by a rather indefensible rape scene that has brought on due charges of homophobia. It’s the film’s one major misstep, but I think the director still deserves some credit for his willingness, however misguided, to engage homosexuality as a serious subject in Dutch cinema of the period to begin with.

Lethal Weapon (1987, Richard Donner)
Unceasingly popular buddy-cop movie was only mildly diverting to me. The best thing here is Mel Gibson’s nutcase performance, which ranges from Three Stooges-inspired mania to pretty convincing depression over his wife’s recent death. Everything else just fell short of my (not exactly high) expectations. The action scenes aren’t that exciting. The relationship between Gibson and Danny Glover was purely by-the-numbers old pro meets rookie, even though Gibson seems too old to be a rookie. Even Gary Busey’s villain wasn’t as over-the-top as I had hoped. It all leads to a flat-out stupid finale in which Gibson and Busey, who for the past 100 minutes have both been positively trigger-happy, decide to have an extended fist fight in front of the entire police force who dutifully stand back and watch. As entertaining as it may sound to see these two particular actors beat the crap out of each other, it gets old quickly. Unless you’ve got Jean-Claude Van Damme or Jackie Chan or Joan Collins, five minutes of scrapping on someone’s front lawn just doesn’t make for grand action-film spectacle.

Cinema Paradiso (1988, Giuseppe Tornatore)
I first saw Cinema Paradiso in its international theatrical version back in college and instantly fell under its spell. Subsequent viewings revealed its shortcomings and manipulative sentimentality, but I have always taken a simple pleasure in its celebration of the communal aspect of moviegoing. What a different experience it was, then, to finally watch the longer director’s cut. The additional 45 minutes or so in the last third are a bitter, sobering counterpoint to the preceding dreamy-eyed nostalgia. The new scenes call into question all of hero Toto’s perceptions of the past and give a much darker impression of his fascination with movies, which may be seen as more of a crutch to deal with his inability to connect with the real world. The famous montage ending also takes on a darker edge, as it seems Toto’s only chance at happiness is immersing himself in the world of fiction, isolated from the rest of the world. The director’s cut is perhaps less cohesive than the brighter, more sentimental theatrical cut, but it is a richer work.

The Elephant Man (1980, David Lynch)
While this has a reputation as one of David Lynch’s most straight-forward, accessible movies, it strikes me as one of his strangest, walking a precarious line between heart-wrenching biopic and waking nightmare. Lynch takes a page from Freaks in presenting John Merrick as nothing more extraordinary than just an average, simple man who becomes the subject of public fascination due to his outwardly grotesque appearance. The film is as much awestruck as it is compassionate toward Merrick, and while I’m sure Mel Brooks and the original screenwriters’ treatment tended more toward hagiography before Lynch became involved, the final product is more akin to Eraserhead in its study of a hapless hero who experiences profound horror and ecstasy before achieving some form of cosmic transcendence.

The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (1989, Peter Greenaway)
The tone is set from the opening scene in which Michael Gambon’s crime boss/restaurateur strips a man naked, covers him in dog shit, and then pisses on him. From here, we move into the sumptuous interiors of an upscale restaurant, where Gambon dines nightly with his sophisticated wife and uncouth henchmen and generally degrades everyone he encounters. Helen Mirren plays his abused wife, who strikes up an affair with another diner right under her husband’s nose. There’s a lot to appreciate visually in Greenaway’s detached tableau, with its gorgeous set design and costumes (the frequent changing of Mirren’s dress color to match her surroundings is clever), but as with the only other Greenaway I’ve seen, A Zed and Two Noughts, I’m left shrugging with indifference. The perceived satire of Thatcher’s England is smart as an idea, but the execution is never involving for me. All of the characters, including the wife and lover, are so far removed from anything remotely human that I just don’t connect with their actions on any level. Nothing strikes me as particularly funny or horrifying until the closing scene, which is pretty delicious (pun totally intended). But I don’t find it worth wading through the maggot-covered slog to get there.
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#324 Post by bamwc2 »

Paul Verhoeven

Spetters
The Fourth Man
Flesh+Blood
Robocop

Although Verhoeven's decade can be divided by the continent in which they were filmed, it would be mistaken to think that there isn't some continuity going through his works. He began the decade with 1980's Spetters, which follows the lives of three shiftless motorcross racers who spend their time off of the track trying to get laid. Today the film is best remembered for a few brief scenes of real sex, a first for Verhoeven's career. Unfortunately, the film doesn't have much else going for it than the curiosity of these scenes as the story of alienated and restless youths has been told too many times elsewhere (and better) for this one to be of much interest. Verhoeven's fascination with psycho-sexual relations next gave us The Fourth Man, a film about a psychologically fragile author who comes to believe that he is to be the next victim of a black widow. Though the answer to film's central question seems as painfully apparent as his own similar Basic Instinct
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, both leads (Renée Soutendijk and Jeroen Krabbé) are excellent in their roles, and the use of Freudian sexual imagery works quite well. His frequent collaborator Rutger Hauer would then follow him to the states to costar in his bloody medieval epic Flesh+Blood. The film follows a group of illiterate brigands who kidnap a young noble woman played by Jennifer Jason Leigh and then hold her hostage in an abandoned castle. While there's a lot of crazy fun to be had with the film, it's difficult to say why it ultimately fails except for the fact that it is a complete mess of half baked ideas that lead off in too many directions without adequate resolution to many of them. Even with its problems, it is still worth viewing and not thinking too hard about. Verhoeven's next directorial effort brought him to the big time in Hollywood with the ultra-violent Peter Weller vehicle Robocop. Telling the story of Alex Murphy, a murdered Detroit police officer in a dystopian world of privatization and corruption, the film works well on two levels. Most obviously, it's one hell of an action flick with some of the most visceral and satisfying shoot out sequences in a decade known for them. However, there's also an adept satire of Reaganomics and the cult of macho simmering mere centimeters below the film's surface. It's not subtle satire, but then again, nothing's remotely subtle about Robocop.
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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#325 Post by domino harvey »

Feego wrote: Unless you’ve got Jean-Claude Van Damme or Jackie Chan or Joan Collins, five minutes of scrapping on someone’s front lawn just doesn’t make for grand action-film spectacle.
Put those three together, though, and it'd make for one hell of a movie (...Googling to see if Joan Collins is still alive)
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