Avatar and the Avatar Cadence (James Cameron, 2009-2031)
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
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Was that really worth going through this thread?
Why didn't you quote the post where I admitted to having been wrong in my predictions? Classy move repeating something I've already publicly copped to!
- Kirkinson
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Re: Avatar (James Cameron, 2009)
I wasn't calling you out, I was trying to encourage you to say the opposite of what you feel in the hopes that it might jinx the movie's chances!
- perkizitore
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Re: Avatar (James Cameron, 2009)
Here we go, how many Avatar releases should we expect? My guess:
Avatar 2D barebones
Avatar 2D with extras
Avatar 3D barebones
Avatar 3D extended edition
Avatar 3D super-duper ultra limited edition with exclusive Navi sex scenes

Avatar 2D barebones
Avatar 2D with extras
Avatar 3D barebones
Avatar 3D extended edition
Avatar 3D super-duper ultra limited edition with exclusive Navi sex scenes
- zedz
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Re: Avatar (James Cameron, 2009)
Wake me when they get to Avatar Redux: The Screensaverperkizitore wrote:Here we go, how many Avatar releases should we expect? My guess:
Avatar 2D barebones
Avatar 2D with extras
Avatar 3D barebones
Avatar 3D extended edition
Avatar 3D super-duper ultra limited edition with exclusive Navi sex scenes
- Noiretirc
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Re: Avatar (James Cameron, 2009)
3D barebones = 1 disc of the film, and 2 discs of Cameron talking about how size matters.
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Re: Avatar (James Cameron, 2009)
I think all authors can take liberties, whether fiction or non-fiction. One might argue that all authors MUST take liberties.colinr0380 wrote:Hey! I'm the only person allowed to ramble on interminably using brackets around here! [-(
In other news, a very strange story about a book on Hiroshima written by an Avatar adviser and with the film rights optioned by Cameron, in which the author was apparently deceived by one of his sources. However since the work is described as non-fiction anyway, doesn't that allow the author to take liberties anyway?
- knives
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- Matt
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Re: Avatar (James Cameron, 2009)
Apparently, people are already sick of 3D, or at least that's how How to Train Your Dragon's "disappointing" $43 million first weekend is being spun. Not that it's a PG film that looks terrifying to little kids.
- mfunk9786
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The TV ads for that film are calling it "Dreamworks' Dragons" - it's the most inexplicably annoying thing imaginable.
- colinr0380
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But I remember The Black Cauldron being a scary PG rated Disney film and that performed alright! (OK, it was Disney's worst flop until Treasure Planet gave the excuse for the studio to kill off 2D animation) I loved the film, one of the many in the 80s 'inspired' by Lord of the Rings! While it doesn't feature any lifeforce sucking Dark Crystal moments, perhaps the moral of this story is to never have one of your cute animal sidekick characters sacrifice themselves, no matter how heroically. Parents or an older sibling perhaps, but never the cute animals!
- tavernier
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- zedz
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Now that's classy! After all, it's well established just how outrageously biased against male directors the Academy has always been.tavernier wrote:Sigourney whines about Cameron losing the Oscar.
- Svevan
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Re: Avatar (James Cameron, 2009)
"a film that nobody saw" should become a meme so it can die.
- Polybius
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This is more than a little bit disappointing coming from her. It reads more like something Jennifer Tilly might say.
- Finch
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Weaver was the last person I'd have suspected to begrudge Bigelow her Oscar. Aren't the Globe wins, billions at the BO and a personal cheque of $225m for Cameron more than enough recognition for this hollow film and its equally overrated director? And how many great/good films other than the first Alien has Weaver made in comparison to Bigelow?
- tavernier
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They're tied, 1-1.Mr Finch wrote:And how many great/good films other than the first Alien has Weaver made in comparison to Bigelow?
- Finch
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I wouldn't call Point Break or Strange Days great by any measure but would include them with The Hurt Locker in the batch of worthwhile films Bigelow's made outside of her masterpiece Near Dark. On the other hand, the only other Weaver film I'd watch repeatedly is Ghostbusters.
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HarryLong
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EYEWITNESSMr Finch wrote:And how many great/good films other than the first Alien has Weaver made in comparison to Bigelow?
THE YEAR OF LIVING DANGEROUSLY
GORILLAS IN THE MIST
ALIEN 3 & 4 (I know I’m probably in the minority on these)
DEATH AND THE MAIDEN
JEFFREY
COPYCAT
THE ICE STORM
But even so, I'm disappointed in her statement.
- colinr0380
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I'd agree with Alien³ and Resurrection - they're problematic films for lots of other reasons but Weaver's performances are excellent.
I'd also put in a word for the guilty pleasure of Half Moon Street. This Siskel and Ebert review is a fair assessment of its quality.
I'd also put in a word for the guilty pleasure of Half Moon Street. This Siskel and Ebert review is a fair assessment of its quality.
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HarryLong
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Re: Avatar (James Cameron, 2009)
My memories of HALF MOON STREET are a tad vague. I left out anything I hadn't seen or hadn't seen recently enough...colinr0380 wrote:I'd agree with Alien³ and Resurrection - they're problematic films for lots of other reasons but Weaver's performances are excellent.
I'd also put in a word for the guilty pleasure of Half Moon Street. This Siskel and Ebert review is a fair assessment of its quality.
(And I probably should have included WORKING GIRL for her performance, though I'm not convinced it's a good, much less a great, film.)
- Finch
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Re: Avatar (James Cameron, 2009)
Good call on The Icestorm - forgot this one entirely (to date Lee's best American film). Have not seen the top two on Harry's list but I generally think Weaver's performances are much better than the films as a whole (though I find Alien 3 fascinating enough to wish that Fincher had been allowed to shoot the film as he envisioned it). Gorillas in the Mist and Death and the Maiden have their moments but neither is among Apted and Polanski's best works. She hasn't made anything special in a long time and her asinine putdown of The Hurt Locker now proves that she can't even lose gracefully. Cameron's egomania must be infectious.
- Oedipax
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Re: Avatar (James Cameron, 2009)
Amusing interview with Cameron (on the Avatar DVD and its lack of extras) in which he comes off as even more of an egomaniac than usual.
- Markson
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What a tool. His compensatory mix of self-congratulatory bluster and bitterness about not getting any major awards is bizarre. And his "reasons" about triple-dipping (at least!) on the Avatar disc are pretty lame, too.
- zedz
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Re: Avatar (James Cameron, 2009)
Hah! So, what, he and Fox never realised that this film might, you know, have a home video release six months down the track that might benefit from some extra material? How can this clown say that sort of thing with a straight face? And expect anybody to believe that he's doing it for his audience, not as some cynical triple dippery frippery?
Actually, I'm just bitter because I bought a Mother's Day present last week and ended up with a free BluRay of this steamer. Didn't cost me a penny and I still feel ripped off!
Actually, I'm just bitter because I bought a Mother's Day present last week and ended up with a free BluRay of this steamer. Didn't cost me a penny and I still feel ripped off!
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HarryLong
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Re: Avatar (James Cameron, 2009)
I'm no fan of Cameron, but I have to applaud this:Oedipax wrote:Amusing interview with Cameron (on the Avatar DVD and its lack of extras) in which he comes off as even more of an egomaniac than usual.
I'm getting a little sick of the studios' new gambit whereby you cannot get past these stinking trailers. The FF will not speed you through them. The Next Chapter button will not get you past them and pressing the Menu button has no effect. I first noticed this on the most recent Harry Potter disc & had to sit through what must have been half an hour of promos for HP merchandise & I've since encountered a few other DVDs similarly formatted.Any movie I make that makes over a billion dollars goes out without a bunch of crap trailers for your other movies.