'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2

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knives
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#1701 Post by knives »

I may be missing something but Hulu is saying that Zatoichi, six from the series, is presented by the Criterion Collection.
Edit: It even has the wacky C. God damned I'm happy if this is real.
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#1702 Post by Jeff »

knives wrote:I may be missing something but Hulu is saying that Zatoichi, six from the series, is presented by the Criterion Collection.
Criterion posted that on their Facebook page earlier today. Janus has had the rights to the Zatoichi films for years, previously releasing them via Home Vision. It remains to be seen if they'll be moved to Eclipse or something eventually.
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#1703 Post by MyNameCriterionForum »

Jerry Lewis on CC would be the coup of the century! Though frankly I prefer his own directorial efforts to those of Tashlin.

If Lewis himself owns any of these works, does it increase the likelihood of a CC relase?

This begs the question... who owns The Day The Clown Cried? Has Criterion ever released an "unreleased" film?
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#1704 Post by knives »

If Army of Shadows counts as unreleased.
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#1705 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop »

knives wrote:I may be missing something but Hulu is saying that Zatoichi, six from the series, is presented by the Criterion Collection.
Edit: It even has the wacky C. God damned I'm happy if this is real.
I just saw a small portion of part six on Hulu to compare to the HVE release (I don't have it with me, but it's one of the best in the series and I've seen it about five times so I have a good memory of what it looks like). The opening credits are still slightly picture boxed and the colors in the film make me think it's exactly the same transfer as previously found on the HVE release. A shame considering parts one and two could use much better and anamorphic transfers.
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#1706 Post by captveg »

Jeff wrote:
knives wrote:I may be missing something but Hulu is saying that Zatoichi, six from the series, is presented by the Criterion Collection.
Criterion posted that on their Facebook page earlier today. Janus has had the rights to the Zatoichi films for years, previously releasing them via Home Vision. It remains to be seen if they'll be moved to Eclipse or something eventually.
Is the film series still split?

The last I knew, it was as follows:

Janus - 1-13, 15, 17-19
Miramax - 14 (never released on R1 DVD)
AnimEigo - 16, 20-25
Tokyo Shock - 26, TV Series
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#1707 Post by CSM126 »

This begs the question... who owns The Day The Clown Cried? Has Criterion ever released an "unreleased" film?
Lewis himself owns it and is apparently deeply ashamed of it, which is why it will never be released.
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#1708 Post by aox »

MyNameCriterionForum wrote: This begs the question... who owns The Day The Clown Cried? Has Criterion ever released an "unreleased" film?
"to raise the question".
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#1709 Post by Peacock »

CSM126 wrote:[Lewis himself owns it and is apparently deeply ashamed of it, which is why it will never be released.
I don't believe this is true, I thought Lewis was keen to get it released ("The picture must be seen, and if by nobody else, at least by every kid in the world who's only heard there was such a thing as the Holocaust.") but Joan O'Brien kept preventing it?
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#1710 Post by CSM126 »

Peacock wrote:
CSM126 wrote:[Lewis himself owns it and is apparently deeply ashamed of it, which is why it will never be released.
I don't believe this is true, I thought Lewis was keen to get it released ("The picture must be seen, and if by nobody else, at least by every kid in the world who's only heard there was such a thing as the Holocaust.") but Joan O'Brien kept preventing it?
That wouldn't explain why Lewis refuses to talk about it, keeps it locked away in his office, and told a reporter it was "none of your goddamn business" when asked if the film would ever be released. He sounds rather upset about it to me.
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#1711 Post by Matt »

MyNameCriterionForum wrote:This begs the question... who owns The Day The Clown Cried? Has Criterion ever released an "unreleased" film?
Are you gonna trot this joke out every few months now?
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#1712 Post by Tribe »

Matt wrote:
MyNameCriterionForum wrote:This begs the question... who owns The Day The Clown Cried? Has Criterion ever released an "unreleased" film?
Are you gonna trot this joke out every few months now?
Busted! :oops:
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#1713 Post by captveg »

The Day the Clown Cried just sounds like one of those projects that toes a very fine line. If you hit the mark, it could work (see: Life is Beautiful). But if you don't..... look out.

I suspect Lewis determined that they didn't hit the mark, and he knew that could cause him some serious PR problems, so he's locked it up.
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#1714 Post by oldsheperd »

Harry Shearer's readction upon seeing The Day the Clown Cried is pretty classic:

"if you flew down to Tijuana and suddenly saw a painting on black velvet of Auschwitz. You'd just think 'My God, wait a minute! It's not funny, and it's not good, and somebody's trying too hard in the wrong direction to convey this strongly-held feeling."
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#1715 Post by domino harvey »

NilbogSavant wrote:
domino harvey wrote:Who's Minding the Store?, It'$ Only Money, the Geisha Boy, and Rock-A-Bye Baby would make a nice Tashlin and Lewis Eclipse set...
Assuming they'd save Artists and Models for the mainline with a Blu release? [-o< Or does Paramount still have that one?
I was naming completely unreleased in R1 titles, though the thought of Tashlin in Blu-ray is enough for me to turn into aox
oldsheperd wrote:Harry Shearer's readction upon seeing The Day the Clown Cried is pretty classic:

"if you flew down to Tijuana and suddenly saw a painting on black velvet of Auschwitz. You'd just think 'My God, wait a minute! It's not funny, and it's not good, and somebody's trying too hard in the wrong direction to convey this strongly-held feeling."
Except I doubt Shearer ever thought much of Lewis to begin with. I believe the problem with getting the film released has more to do with no one can decide who owns it and so Lewis can't release it or even get another studio to distribute it
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#1716 Post by oldsheperd »

I'm wondering if most want to see The Day the Clown Cried out of curiosity or because it's considered a great film?
Although I suppose not many know if it's a great film at all since barely anyone has ever been able to see it.
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#1717 Post by MyNameCriterionForum »

I want to see it because I love Jerry Lewis, plain and simple. Frankly I'm not otherwise too enamaored of Holocaust films.

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#1718 Post by zedz »

knives wrote:If Army of Shadows counts as unreleased.
Considering it was released in 1969, I don't know why it should. Even if you're of a mind that if something didn't happen in the USA it didn't happen at all, the ridiculously belated US release of this still preceded Criterion's disc by more than a year.

I'm sure there are some Criterion releases that debuted in the US on DVD (Solo con tu pareja comes close, though that's a pretty scary precedent!), but that's a completely different situation from a film that's long completed and unreleased anywhere.
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#1719 Post by TheGodfather »

So with the release of Bigger Than Life just a few weeks away, and the excellent look it has on the dvdbeaver review, I was wondering if there`s any possibility whatsoever that they`d do a release of Johnny Guitar? or is that out of the question?
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#1720 Post by ianungstad »

No solid confirmations but they've teased that we might see some Republic Picture titles in the library in the future. They've been coy when asked about Letter From An Unknown Woman, Johnny Guitar, Macbeth, etc.
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#1721 Post by TheGodfather »

Cool! hoping that it`ll get to see a release someday [-o<
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#1722 Post by Peacock »

A restored print of Letter from an Unknown Woman is playing at the Filmhouse in a few weeks, so we could well see it soon if Crit have the rights
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#1723 Post by Ashirg »

It's also playing on TCM on March 27.
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#1724 Post by ianungstad »

While everyone asks for Letter from an Unknown Woman, Republic Pictures also has another Ophuls, "Caught". If Criterion grabbed one, I'm sure they would grab the other.
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#1725 Post by Flike »

Sure everyone knows The Red Shoes has been confirmed for June, but Everlasting Moments is coming in the "summer", according to the Criterion website. You know, for people that knead to know.
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