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#251 Post by zedz »

domino harvey wrote:
Perkins Cobb wrote:
Murdoch wrote:I found Showalter - and most of the cast outside of Williams, Theroux, and Banks - to be incredibly unfunny. It was a decent attempt at an old Hollywood comedy, but it just fell flat for me.
Yep. I didn't want to jump all over The Baxter until somebody else did, since it has some passionate fans here, but I was cringing from beginning to end. Or from beginning to eject button, I should say.
I've shown it to people who have sat next to me on the couch in dead silence from beginning to end, so I'm well aware of how esoteric and divisive the film is.
I watched this last night and I'm afraid I was with those folks on your sofa in spirit. I don't think I've ever sat through anything this arch without at least some kind of comic payoff. It just seemed like archness for its own sake: it wasn't even exposing or subverting the rom-com conventions it documented, it was just acknowledging them. In italics. Every single second. Only Williams managed to emerge with dignity intact, by remaining likeable and demonstrating flashes of comedic talent (albeit in the absence of actual comedy). Theroux was a sitcom walk-on stereotype, but serviceable; Banks was DOA; Showalter's affected gurning would have killed even the best script stone dead.

Nevertheless, I raise my glass to domino and to the mysteries of taste! At least we'll always have To Sleep with Anger.
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#252 Post by fiddlesticks »

I'm new to this "lists" biz, and just spent my lunchtime perusing this thread. It looks like I'm going to have to get a temporary Netflix account, if only so I can see Punch-Drunk Love. (The only Paul Thomas Anderson film I've ever seen is Magnolia, and I hated it.)

I'm frankly surprised that no mention has been made of any of the films by either LEE Chang-dong or LEE Yoon-ki. Of the eight films these two have directed, I've seen (and have on DVD) seven, and love each of them. Oasis is a masterwork, and features a brilliant performance by MOON So-ri. It seems to have a region 1 release, although I strongly recommend the four disc LEE Chang Dong boxset (R3), which contains Green Fish and Peppermint Candy as well. Secret Sunshine (aka Milyang or Miryang), LEE Chang-dong's latest, is an emotionally brutal story of coping with tragedy, and won for JEON Do-yeon the acting prize at Cannes. Alas, it does not seem to be out in R1-land.

I also can wholeheartedly recommend any film by LEE Yoon-ki. I've not seen Love Talk, which got some up and down reviews, but the other three are remarkable. This Charming Girl is a strong contender for the top spot on my decade list, and Ad-Lib Night and My Dear Enemy are not far behind. Unfortunately, none of these seem to have R1 releases, so I'll refrain from making them swapsies.

Leaving Korea for a moment, I'd like to second puxzkkz's love for Vibrator, a truly tremendous film. I was quite taken by Hiroki's Tokyo Trash Baby as well, although not to the same degree.

A few other Korean films that will likely make my list that haven't been mentioned yet, in no particular order:
Saving My Hubby (HYUN Nam-seop 2002)--a pretty silly premise which the wonderful BAE Doo-na single-handedly turns into an hilarious romp.
Chunhyang (IM Kwon-taek 2000)--a story made many times by many filmmakers, IM's version is a performance-within-a-performance and continues his fascination wuth the art of pansori.
The Railroad (PARK Heung-sik 2007)--I'm a sucker for "wounded soul" films; this one features two such characters who come together through chance at a deserted train station far from Seoul.
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#253 Post by domino harvey »

I revisited Punch Drunk Love a few months ago. While I still enjoyed the film, it certainly didn't live up to my ever-aggrandizing memories of it. Sad to say, its quirks struck me as far more affectated and less organic than I'd recalled. Mary-Lynn Rajskub and Luis Guzman remained terrific in the sidelines and there were still moments that worked beautifully (like Sandler's awkward relaying of the morning zoo crew DJ's schtick to his impossibly bemused date), but the film ultimately felt so much smaller than it needed to be-- It's telling that the best moment in the film isn't even in the film: Watson's listless waiting sequence found in that peculiarly edited DVD extra
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#254 Post by reno dakota »

fiddlesticks wrote: I'm frankly surprised that no mention has been made of any of the films by either LEE Chang-dong or LEE Yoon-ki.
Secret Sunshine will certainly make my list. Watching it was an emotionally devastating experience.
Spoiler
It may be the most harrowing film about reckless parenting and grief that I've seen.
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#255 Post by Michael »

To be fair, how many swapsies are we allowed to suggest? (Not another gay film I promise, GringoTex :wink: )
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#256 Post by denti alligator »

zedz wrote:
domino harvey wrote:
Perkins Cobb wrote: Yep. I didn't want to jump all over The Baxter until somebody else did, since it has some passionate fans here, but I was cringing from beginning to end. Or from beginning to eject button, I should say.
I've shown it to people who have sat next to me on the couch in dead silence from beginning to end, so I'm well aware of how esoteric and divisive the film is.
I watched this last night and I'm afraid I was with those folks on your sofa in spirit. I don't think I've ever sat through anything this arch without at least some kind of comic payoff. It just seemed like archness for its own sake: it wasn't even exposing or subverting the rom-com conventions it documented, it was just acknowledging them. In italics. Every single second. Only Williams managed to emerge with dignity intact, by remaining likeable and demonstrating flashes of comedic talent (albeit in the absence of actual comedy). Theroux was a sitcom walk-on stereotype, but serviceable; Banks was DOA; Showalter's affected gurning would have killed even the best script stone dead.

Nevertheless, I raise my glass to domino and to the mysteries of taste! At least we'll always have To Sleep with Anger.
Domino, I'd like to hear from you some more details as why you think it's so fantastic. I enjoyed it. But, really...
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#257 Post by reno dakota »

Michael wrote:To be fair, how many swapsies are we allowed to suggest? (Not another gay film I promise, GringoTex :wink: )
I believe the accepted practice is that you may suggest as many swapsies as you wish, but no one is required to watch more than one from your set.
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#258 Post by GringoTex »

Michael wrote:
GringoTex wrote:

Come Undone - I couldn't get past the amateur navel-gazing of it all.
Not sure what you mean exactly. How is it amateur? I thought it was very sensitively, lovingly filmed - the burst of mindless summer love jumbled with the October coldness of healing and understanding. I admit too many gay films have already been made "coming of age" - the first love, the coming out, the heartbreaks, etc. - something almost every gay person around the world can identify with. Most of them are really bad and generic and I feel Come Undone is really the diamond in that pile of coals. Like Maurice, another gay film, it's interesting to see how gay men with great education and wealth give up everything, their status quo, instantly once fallen in love with men from totally different backgrounds, from the bottom of the ladder, such as game keepers, carnival workers and hustlers, as shown in those films. Come Undone also reflects another prism - the hereditary (?) depression crippling the family, a subject rarely handled this well in cinema.
I haven't seen that many gay coming of age films so it's not that I thought the subject matter was stale. By "amateur," I mean that the director did very well with the mano-a-mano scenes (this is obviously what inspired him), but everything else he had to integrate it with was clumsy. For example, the horrid "ode-to-Jules et Jim" camerawork in the outdoor family dining scene. I thought all the family scenes in general were unbearably rote. And then it didn't help that I constantly compared this film to Mysterious Skin (which I just recently saw as you know and will surely make my top 10). I'm sure I'm exhibiting a hetero/regional bias here in insisting on a comparison between the two, but Mysterious Skin rang completely true to my experiences with gays in rural Texas, while Come Undone seemed to be ticking off themes.
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#259 Post by GringoTex »

The Lady and the Duke - After having exclusively viewed contemporary cinema over the past 3 weeks (for the purpose of this project) and all the inherently "unsure" cinema that such an exercise involves, watching the total and complete confidence of old man Rohmer was like mana from heaven. Rohmer finally lends his conservatism to didactic political prominence with this vicious attack on the horrors of the French Revolution. It owes everything to Rossellini's historical films, and, sadly, Rohmer is probably the only director today still looking directly to Rossellini's historical films for inspiration. A definite top-10er in my list.
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#260 Post by Michael »

GringoTex wrote:
I haven't seen that many gay coming of age films so it's not that I thought the subject matter was stale. By "amateur," I mean that the director did very well with the mano-a-mano scenes (this is obviously what inspired him), but everything else he had to integrate it with was clumsy. For example, the horrid "ode-to-Jules et Jim" camerawork in the outdoor family dining scene. I thought all the family scenes in general were unbearably rote. And then it didn't help that I constantly compared this film to Mysterious Skin (which I just recently saw as you know and will surely make my top 10). I'm sure I'm exhibiting a hetero/regional bias here in insisting on a comparison between the two, but Mysterious Skin rang completely true to my experiences with gays in rural Texas, while Come Undone seemed to be ticking off themes.
Mysterious Skin is a beast on its own, much superior a film than Come Undone. That's for sure. I wanted to make MSkin a swapsie at first but it seems like plenty of folks here have seen the film already. It will make my top 10. I just wanted to throw a gay bone into the mine of swapsies even though Come Undone is not my favorite gay film. That's reserved for Mala Noche and of course, MSkin. But thanks for checking it out. Come Undone didn't work for you, Drama/Mex didn't for me either so we are even. :)
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#261 Post by puxzkkx »

If this was a list for the best performances of the decade, Jeon would be near the top of my list for Secret Sunshine, but I found the film kind of bloated and episodic (even though I liked a lot of it and the writing was great). Still, Jeon was fantastic (and is my #2 for 2007, an absurdly strong year for films andperformances, behind Tang Wei) and the pain she taps into in the first revival scene is just shockingly primal and raw. Best Cannes Best Actress winner in ages... too bad that, as far as other international recognition went, she fell curse to being Asian and not Maggie Cheung.

As far as Korean films go for this decade, Jeong Jae-eun's Take Care of My Cat takes the cake!

I think I've settled on five swapsies, which might be too many (but I saw someone on the main page with four) - I've already talked about Vibrator, Linda Linda Linda and A Piece of Sky but would like to endorse:
The Forest for the Trees by Maren Ade
A really tense, disturbing and psychologically brutal film about a young teacher who starts one of her first major jobs in a large high school, and is completely broken down by her students, colleagues and the effects her own overly-earnest personality has on others... there's scenes of psychological tension that are really upsetting here, but the film is so well-done that its a satisfying watch by the end (which is ambiguous and quite haunting). The lead actress is stupendous, and when you realize this is the director's film school final project it is even more impressive. Her sophomore feature, "Everyone Else", just won Best Actress at Berlin this year.

also,
The Closed Doors by Atef Hetata
Most of the films from this decade that I've really loved have been completely unexpected pleasures. This is a really complex, layered film that juggles so many issues - the pressures young men in Muslim society are put under by religion and social mores, the plight of women in Muslim society, the class divide, the Madonna-or-Whore complex, the bond between mother and son, the reconciliation of sex with religion, and the thin line between faith and fanaticism - with such grace when most other films would collapse under the weight. It has a humanistic approach and an attention to dialogue and character detail that is reminiscent of Ray and Ozu. It's a first-time director too, which makes it a miracle film (unfortunately for us, it is still his only film). The film is incredibly low-budget and probably won't look good on any transfer - I don't know which release I saw it on, but I got it from Netflix when I was living in America, I assume it was the Typecast Releasing DVD - but the direction is so deft and precise that it doesn't really matter. And being an Egyptian film it gives you a unique glimpse into a society that we rarely see on-screen (I'm kind of ashamed that it is still one of the only African films I've seen). Also, I really dug Manal Afifi's supporting performance as the neighbor of the main characters.*

*I've noticed that IMDb is woefully under-informed when it comes to African films. Afifi has been in a lot of Egyptian films, apparently, but on IMDb this film is listed as her only credit. And I know that low-budget films from other countries in Africa don't have IMDb pages yet, either. The IMDb URL for the film is http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209885/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, because it doesn't come up if you search for "The Closed Doors" (although that is its name on Netflix and IMDb lists the English title as "Closed Doors". The Arabic name is "Al abwab al moghlaka".

Swapsies that I caught since starting an account here:

The Aura - An effective crime-thriller but pretty conventional. The climax in the woods is a little masterpiece of tension, though, and I really liked the bank robbery fantasy sequence. The acting was fine - Ricardo Darin was capable but didn't show too much emotional range and basically squinted his way through the second act - but I thought Dolores Fonzi showed promise. A bit too slick and soulless for my tastes, but it is smartly done. A C+ from me.

Fog of War - Exhilarating composition but I think it skims over some of the more negative aspects of McNamara's leadership and basically deifies the guy. Well-made but had issues with the way the content was handled. A B or B- from me.
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#262 Post by GringoTex »

Vibrator - The first two scenes (the quick mart shopping and the sex scene in the truck) were fantastic because they were all about physically beautiful people coping in enclosed spaces. And then suddenly the director forgets about enclosed spaces and shoots as if he were in a studio (which is unfortunate as most of the movie takes place inside a truck cab). Once he abandoned the tangibility of these spaces, I was left with nothing but the abstract musings of some fairly uninteresting characters. Even the chick's intertitles follow suite, starting with immediate physical concerns and ending up with dimestore philosophy.
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#263 Post by GringoTex »

Battle in Heaven - This one shoots to the top of my 2000s list like a bullet. I netflixed it off Michael's recommendation of the director though he never mentioned the film (thanks!). There is no light between the personal, the political, the religious, the cinematic and the Mexico in this film. Bunuel would have been proud.
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#264 Post by puxzkkx »

GringoTex wrote:Vibrator - The first two scenes (the quick mart shopping and the sex scene in the truck) were fantastic because they were all about physically beautiful people coping in enclosed spaces. And then suddenly the director forgets about enclosed spaces and shoots as if he were in a studio (which is unfortunate as most of the movie takes place inside a truck cab). Once he abandoned the tangibility of these spaces, I was left with nothing but the abstract musings of some fairly uninteresting characters. Even the chick's intertitles follow suite, starting with immediate physical concerns and ending up with dimestore philosophy.
Sad you didn't like it :( This film is really personal to me, not just because I treasure it as a piece of filmmaking but because I feel an instant kinship with the lead character, who looks at the world in about the same way as I do. I didn't find the philosophy to be sketched too thinly - indeed, more philosophical scenes like the scene at the diner and (especially) the scene in the hotel bathroom (which left me stunned with its power) really worked for me. (and I loved the soundtrack) It'll probably be my #2 for the decade. In any case, I'll try to track down Drama/Mex!

As far as more well-known cinema goes, I hope no one forgets about Hedwig and the Angry Inch.

I'm probably one of the few that will vote for it - and loving this movie has gotten me ridiculed many times - but Amelie will definitely be on my list. Not only because it is the film that got me into film in the first place, but because I think it is one of the most potent expressions of pure joy put on cinema. It is messy in places, and a bit cutesy, but I think the tricks the director pulls off (like the melting-into-water scene) really work, for the most part, I see the references to other films more as homage than derivation, the score is beautiful, as is the cinematography, and the final scene is just pure romantic cathartic bliss. Since I've become involved in film circles like this one it has turned from legitimate pleasure into guilty pleasure, but its still one of my favorite films (I won't say best, but I do think it is a great film) of the decade, and of all time.

Also, a question - do we classify films such as Humanite, Beau travail, The Closed Doors, An Affair of Love etc as 90s films or 00s films? If The Closed Doors is a 90s film then my swapsie is meaningless, and I was planning on putting Humanite and Beau travail in quite high positions. All of those films except for The Closed Doors (which was released in France, and France only, in 2000, despite showing at festivals in 1999) opened in Europe and their home countries before showing in America in 2000. In the context of this list, what decade do they belong in?
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#265 Post by Fiery Angel »

puxzkkx wrote:Also, a question - do we classify films such as Humanite, Beau travail, The Closed Doors, An Affair of Love etc as 90s films or 00s films? If The Closed Doors is a 90s film then my swapsie is meaningless, and I was planning on putting Humanite and Beau travail in quite high positions. All of those films except for The Closed Doors (which was released in France, and France only, in 2000, despite showing at festivals in 1999) opened in Europe and their home countries before showing in America in 2000. In the context of this list, what decade do they belong in?
Whatever year imdb says.
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#266 Post by Michael »

GringoTex wrote:Battle in Heaven - This one shoots to the top of my 2000s list like a bullet. I netflixed it off Michael's recommendation of the director though he never mentioned the film (thanks!). There is no light between the personal, the political, the religious, the cinematic and the Mexico in this film. Bunuel would have been proud.
Glad you liked it. Agree with everything you said.
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#267 Post by puxzkkx »

Turns out my swapsie The Closed Doors is ineligible for this list because of the IMDb date, so I want to nominate Jorge Gaggero's Live-in Maid instead... its a really intimate character study of a rich, widowed ex-businesswoman and her live-in maid. The writing and direction are taut, the story is very moving, the ending is PERFECT and the performances are great - Norma Argentina is graceful and evocative of hidden depths, and Norma Aleandro is really touching and really good in a tricky role to keep sympathetic.
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#268 Post by GringoTex »

puxzkkx wrote: Sad you didn't like it :(
But I'm glad you chose it because the first two scenes are so extraordinary. If I pretend I turned it off after the girl pukes on the road, it will make my list as the best short film of the decade.
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#269 Post by Michael »

Anyone seen XXY directed by Lucia Puenzo? Caught it last night. It centers around a teen born with genitalia characteristic of both male an female in a small fishing village in South America. I was profoundlymoved, a film of haunting beauty and compassion. The soul of this very eloquent film is the father coming to terms with his son/daughter, the two teen boys exploring their sexualities through the intersexed teen and that teen's rise above it all, the gender and all. It holds up nearly perfectly: the story is solid - none of the PC fluff that usually accompany films with similar topics, the brooding, rainy atmosphere of the seaside village realized so painterly in muted colors, the teen's performance is piercing and haunting with the same intensity and ambiguity of the vampire girl in Let the Right One In). Today following last night's viewing, the film continues burrowing my mind and heart. Must see.
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#270 Post by GringoTex »

Japon - I rushed for this one as soon as Battle in Heaven went to the top of my provisional list. There are many typical over-eager first-time director moves, but overall Reygadas nails it. I've traipsed off by myself to some rural pueblito to get drunk and be self important on more than one occasion, and he definitely nails it. There are of course the Tarkovsky influenced camera moves (completely abandoned in Battle in Heaven), but Reygadas films a reality outside of himself while Tarkovsky films self-interiors. The 15 minute disintegration into documentary near the end of the film is extraordinary and took steel balls from a first-time director. The dude literally interrupts his own narrative climax to a show a bunch of drunk mexican extras bitching about their maltreatment in the making of the film. I've never seen anything like it. I just hope Reygadas doesn't abandon Mexico like most of his other New Mexican Cinema comprades have.

I thought Asian cinema would dominate my 2000s list, but right now I've got 4 Mexican films in my provisional top 10.
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#271 Post by thirtyframesasecond »

Yeah, I caught it last year. Ines Efron's some actress. It's not an easy part to get right but she nails it. The film has that right level of empathy but isn't cloying or overly patronising as it quite easily could have been. There's an amusing but poignant moment where she asks her friend to have sex with her, and well, it's not exactly what he had in mind! Efron and Puenzo have worked again on The Fish Child, which I think was at Berlin earlier this year so might wind up at the London Film Festival, fingers crossed!
Michael wrote:Anyone seen XXY directed by Lucia Puenzo? Caught it last night. It centers around a teen born with genitalia characteristic of both male an female in a small fishing village in South America. I was profoundlymoved, a film of haunting beauty and compassion. The soul of this very eloquent film is the father coming to terms with his son/daughter, the two teen boys exploring their sexualities through the intersexed teen and that teen's rise above it all, the gender and all. It holds up nearly perfectly: the story is solid - none of the PC fluff that usually accompany films with similar topics, the brooding, rainy atmosphere of the seaside village realized so painterly in muted colors, the teen's performance is piercing and haunting with the same intensity and ambiguity of the vampire girl in Let the Right One In). Today following last night's viewing, the film continues burrowing my mind and heart. Must see.
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I really enjoyed The Baxter. For all its calculated playing with convention, I found it effortlessly managed to be sweet and sincere, and quite funny too (especially during scenes involving Peter Dinklage, he is a riot). I loved the cast members, above all Michelle Williams, with those big wet shining eyes. She was so painfully adorable...I appreciate her more and more as an actress each time I see her.
I preferred this infinitely more to other things I've seen bearing the David Wain/State/Michael Showalter/etc. stamp of humor. It'll be on my list.

Moolaadé: Fantastic. Sadly, I've seen very few African films so I really appreciated the push that this project provided to rent one. It's awful to think that such barbaric practices as FGM are still alive in parts of the world, and even more shocking to think that women would be involved in sustaining them. It was eye-opening to see a film that dealt with such subject matter so candidly, and so well. Apart from the heavier issues, it was really entertaining, too... I loved how the film was a vibrant, colorful window into the daily life of an African village. Excellent education, this film was. I'll look forward to watching other Sembene films.
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#273 Post by puxzkkx »

I'm 1/3 of the way through Yi Yi at the moment, and I'm not getting the fuss. It sprawls, but it doesn't really seem to be saying much of anything, and the 'small, special moments' that are supposed to be the film's focus seem sentimental and manufactured. The lensing is also quite uninspired and, dare I say it, ugly. But things might be looking up because there were at least two good scenes before I turned it off - the bits with the visiting Japanese businessman were interesting and the scene where the mother has a breakdown. The latter especially is quite striking, but I think this is more to Elaine Jin's credit than Edward Yang's. But I'm prepared to reserve my judgment and I'm hoping that the film will grow on me in the next two hours... which I will watch tomorrow!

I really disliked In the Mood for Love, so hopefully I don't end up sour on the other most highly regarded Asian film of the decade. It's kind of weird that these two films fail to excite me, as more obscure Asian cinema occupies my #1, #2 and a lot of the rest of my list so far.
LQ wrote:Sadly, I've seen very few African films...
Watch The Closed Doors! :wink:
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#274 Post by GringoTex »

puxzkkx wrote:But I'm prepared to reserve my judgment and I'm hoping that the film will grow on me in the next two hours... which I will watch tomorrow!
I think it's effect is largely accumulative. So get your ass back in front of the tv.
puxzkkx wrote: I really disliked In the Mood for Love
I don't dislike it but I've never understood the almost instant canonical status played on it. For me, who watched in awe the delirious ferocity of Kar-wai films 2-6 as they came out in the 90s, In the Mood for Love felt like a smoke break. Unfortunately, he still seems to be on the same smoke break.
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#275 Post by puxzkkx »

I'm just surprised that people don't hold Happy Together in as high esteem. The plot is similar but it is vastly superior, and it says more about love and loss than the tepid ITMFL. And the acting's better, too...

For acting fans, I suggest you watch my swapsie A Piece of Sky, which is a really beautiful, haunting film but also showcases a really fantastic, really fascinating performance by Severine Caneele. I find this actress incredibly beguiling and utterly mysterious... she comes out of the woodwork to do three or four films - three or four utterly magnificent performances - and then just disappears. What I find interesting about her is that I can't detect any persona whatsoever other than the character's. For me, her work in A Piece of Sky and, to a lesser extent (although still a great performance) Humanite is the definition of complete immersion. Her work as an actress in A Piece of Sky is completely egoless... the work comes completely from inside. I'd say that I wish she would make more films, but frankly I think making more films would diminish her mystique. For now she's sort of my 00s equivalent of Falconetti :wink:

I'm definitely going to finish Yi Yi, but I'm gonna wait til morning.
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