Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

[Svevan]

Not that we need to start a Che discussion here, I never heard this "general consensus." I did hear some claim that part one was superior to part two, perhaps because part two is such a downer; as for different color schemes, I didn't notice much diff other than the change in landscape (which precipitated a certain change in color, but the two parts definitely feel of a piece). They both have excellent cinematography that ties the landscape and Che's person together, in a way. The movies never make Che into a hero or romanticize the environment, as a classic Western might. Instead there's almost a Herzogian struggle with nature, but without any attempt to psycho-analyze the figure or make his story or the film "too pretty." Despite that, I'd say part two's jungle/forest cinematography was far superior to part one's, but part one's black and white verite feel can't be beat.

[Antoine Doinel]

There is a solid discussion about Che here. The early pages of the thread have critical reaction, which was fairly mixed.

[RagingNoodles]

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[Jun-Dai]

3 Godfathers?

[swo17]

Back to the Future III!

[Fierias]

To Wong Foo Thanks For Everything Julie Newmar?!

[tojoed]

Mr Ed - The Talking Horse.

[SSF]

She Wore a Yellow Ribbon?
The Searchers?

EDIT: Stagecoach? Fort Apache?

[kaujot]

No way is it The Searchers.

[CSM126]

Koyaanisqatsi features Monument Valley, and since newsletter clues these days always point towards already-confirmed titles, it's probably that.

Of course I can always toss out random speculation of Electra Glide in Blue, or maybe Vacation...

[Tom Hagen]

Wikipedia's list of Monument Valley's motion picture appearances.

[Jeff]

With the Christmas reference, it's gotta be 3 Godfathers. If you had asked me to guess 100 films that Criterion might have licensed from Warner, it wouldn't have made the list. It's a nice choice though.

Maybe Criterion found Ford's long lost silent version.

[Hail_Cesar]

What about Arizona Dream for Christmas?!

[Cinephrenic]

There are dozens of westerns filmed in the monument valley.

Cheyenne Autumn (1964) 7.0/10 (1464 votes)
Fort Apache (1948) 7.7/10 (4997 votes)
My Darling Clementine (1946) 7.9/10 (6747 votes)
Rio Grande (1950) 7.3/10 (4369 votes)
Sergeant Rutledge (1960) 7.5/10 (1004 votes)
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949) 7.3/10 (5154 votes)
Stagecoach (1939) 7.8/10 (12651 votes)
The Searchers (1956) 8.0/10 (26451 votes)
Wagon Master (1950) 7.2/10 (942 votes)

[solaris72]

3 Godfathers seems to have been shot in Death Valley, not Monument Valley.
Maybe the Christmas reference is simply referring to a December release date?

[Jameson281]

Alex Cox's SEARCHERS 2.0?

[Derek Estes]

Are you sure it isn't Once Upon A Time In The West? Portions were filmed in MV. Though, I'll always take more Ford!!

[Izo]

There are dozens of westerns filmed in the monument valley.

Wagon Master (1950) 7.2/10 (942 votes)

How far-fetched is this? One of my favorite Ford films. I'd love to get a legitimate copy of it.

[aox]

Are you sure it isn't Once Upon A Time In The West? Portions were filmed in MV. Though, I'll always take more Ford!!

We're absolutely sure.

[jaredsap]

3 Godfathers seems to have been shot in Death Valley, not Monument Valley.
Maybe the Christmas reference is simply referring to a December release date?

I agree the Monument Valley reference is essential whereas the Christmas part is probably just release date. I can't imagine Criterion picking up a WB title that already has a recent, near pristine transfer. Also, WB claimed their Criterion relationship is based solely around living directors.

Shot in the dark: Raoul Walsh's PURSUED? Filmed in Monument Valley by the great James Wong Howe. We know Criterion likes their Westerns as family dramas with bizarre, psychological bents. Granted PURSUED is already on disc, but I've heard that DVD is weak. Anyone?

[Dylan]

What about Arizona Dream for Christmas?!

The 5 hour cut. That would be grand.

[Gregory]

There are dozens of westerns filmed in the monument valley.

Wagon Master (1950) 7.2/10 (942 votes)

How far-fetched is this? One of my favorite Ford films. I'd love to get a legitimate copy of it.

Warner's releasing it in September.

[Des Esseintes]

Is there a chance this could be Von Stroheim's GREED?

(after a moment's thought)

That's Death Valley. Crap.

[Oggilby]

Maybe it's The Quiet Man since it's John Ford WITHOUT Monument Valley (dry = not in) and this bit from IMDB:
"While all other saddled horses are seen with English saddles (as would be expected in Ireland during that time period), Sean's (John Wayne's) horse is saddled with a US Army-issue McClellan cavalry saddle." It would be a good December release.

The Quiet Man on BluRay would be awesome from Criterion, even if that's being overly hopeful.

[Tribe]

This is sort of untypical that a cartoon clue from the newsletter has remained this long unresolved.