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What A Disgrace · Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:26 pm

Harmonov wrote:Since the Collection is releasing Melville's Le Doulos and Le Deuxieme Souffle, how about Leon Morin, pretre? It seems to be thematically up Criterion's alley and it is Melville and Belmondo. It appears Kino used to have the rights to it. The DVD seems to be out of print as well.

It's a Rialto, so it'll probably wait until they release it.

Zazou dans le Metro · Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:31 pm

After about a year I get a Mulvaney.
No plans for Best Intentions.
Why has this Cannes winner/Bergman interest been dropped I wonder? There's nothing forthcoming either from Artificial Eye who put it out on vhs.

fdm · #303 Post by **fdm** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:51 am

alan smithee wrote:Crash was criterion on laserdisc. If you wanna break out your laserdisc player. Anyways if there's going to be another Cronenberg on criterion it should be a redo of the O.O.P. Dead Ringers. It's cronenbergs masterpiece and Crash is available at any independent record store in the world. Or I would be down with a criterion shivers.

Dead Ringers is also available just about anywhere online... and it's owned by Warner. The end.

Fletch F. Fletch · Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:44 pm

alan smithee wrote:Crash was criterion on laserdisc. If you wanna break out your laserdisc player. Anyways if there's going to be another Cronenberg on criterion it should be a redo of the O.O.P. Dead Ringers. It's cronenbergs masterpiece and Crash is available at any independent record store in the world. Or I would be down with a criterion shivers.

I'd love to see a Criterion edition of Scanners. The bare bones version that's out there is a travesty.

LightBulbFilm · #305 Post by **LightBulbFilm** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:16 pm

In response to The Daarjeeling Limited:

no plans but we've heard the rumors too. I don't want to promise it but I know Wes would like it.

Thanks as always,

Jonahtan

#306 Post by **mfunk9786** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:33 pm

I hope Wes isn't delusional enough to just call up Criterion and say "Hey, do whatever you have to do, just get my movie on the collection." If it matters so much to him to be on Criterion, then why did he release it with Fox Searchlight?

Antoine Doinel · #307 Post by **Antoine Doinel** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:49 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:I hope Wes isn't delusional enough to just call up Criterion and say "Hey, do whatever you have to do, just get my movie on the collection." If it matters so much to him to be on Criterion, then why did he release it with Fox Searchlight?

Because they gave him about $20 million dollars to make a movie and Fox Searchlight isn't in the habit of throwing away valuable DVD titles to third party companies. Considering the film barely made half its budget during its theatrical run, Fox Searchlight needs the DVD sales to help it break even.

While Wes Anderson may retain complete creative control, he certainly isn't in any position to dictate to a studio how he wants his DVD release to be handled. He can certainly make suggestions, but I'm sure when a film may not even break even, those requests go right in the trash.

But I'm glad Mulvaney cleared things up. I guess I'll finally spring for the Fox DVD. I'm not going to hold my breath for the Darjeeling Limited on Criterion anytime soon (or at all).

#308 Post by **mfunk9786** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:51 pm

It's not like Anderson would have had a hard time finding a company to give him $20 million to make a movie elsewhere, if the DVD release is really so important to him.

But if the rights rumors are true, Fox only has until the spring with the rights to the DVD release of the film, then I suppose Criterion can snatch them up pretty easily.

Antoine Doinel · #309 Post by **Antoine Doinel** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:56 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:It's not like Anderson would have had a hard time finding a company to give him $20 million to make a movie elsewhere, if the DVD release is really so important to him.

But if the rights rumors are true, Fox only has until the spring with the rights to the DVD release of the film, then I suppose Criterion can snatch them up pretty easily.

Read the trades --- indie divisions are closing left and right, and despite Wes Anderson's cache, he's never been a big box office draw. I highly doubt there are many studios at all who would throw $20 million dollars at him (along with full creative control and final cut), for a film about some guys romping around India that isn't Harold & Kumar 3: Indian Inebriation. There is a reason why Darjeeling Limited wasn't made over at Disney like his previous three films: they handed him $50 million dollars for Life Aquatic which did half of that at the box office and worse, the DVD rights went to Criterion so they couldn't make it back there.

I also highly doubt that Wes Anderson snagged ownership of the film or DVD rights and that Fox has a limited license on it. I'm sure Fox saw what happened over at Disney and made sure they didn't give away the one thing that will guarantee them their investment at the end of the day.

LQ · #310 Post by LQ » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:12 pm

Antoine Doinel wrote: Harold & Kumar 3: Indian Inebriation

Don't tease us like this.

If only....

jbeall · #311 Post by **jbeall** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:13 pm

Whaddya think the odds are that Criterion will redo Day of Wrath?

Luke M · #312 Post by **Luke M** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:14 pm

Maybe Criterion and Fox could work out something so that Criterion releases The Darjeeling Limited on Blu-ray only, while Fox keeps the DVD rights. I know something like this hasn't been done before, but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen.

dx23 · #313 Post by **dx23** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:02 am

Does anyone know the chances of Michael Mann's The Insider being released by Criterion? Next year is the 10th anniversary of the film and the current DVD is almost barebones. I believe Disney hold the rights.

Highway 61 · #314 Post by **Highway 61** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:52 am

I've wondered the same thing; it's a movie that could really benefit from an exhaustive Criterion treatment. But my understanding is that aside from Wes Anderson movies, Criterion never really had a strong relationship with Buena Vista. Hope I'm wrong.

dx23 · #315 Post by **dx23** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:04 am

Highway 61 wrote:I've wondered the same thing; it's a movie that could really benefit from an exhaustive Criterion treatment. But my understanding is that aside from Wes Anderson movies, Criterion never really had a strong relationship with Buena Vista. Hope I'm wrong.

Well, they also released two big budget Michael Bay films and Criterion even let BV have all the extras in the Blu Ray release.

fortunato · #316 Post by **fortunato** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:31 am

how about santa sangre?

dx23 · #317 Post by **dx23** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:29 am

fortunato wrote:how about santa sangre?

I think Anchor Bay has the right to that one.

Fletch F. Fletch · Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:45 pm

dx23 wrote:Does anyone know the chances of Michael Mann's The Insider being released by Criterion? Next year is the 10th anniversary of the film and the current DVD is almost barebones. I believe Disney hold the rights.

That would be nice. I can't see Buena Vista doing anything special unless Mann steps in, which he did with the snazzy Heat SE DVD so you never know.

#319 Post by **Finch** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:17 pm

I'd love to see a properly contextualised and video/audio improved reissue of The Insider - it's one of my favourite films of the 1990s. It'd be a great addition to Criterion's canon of contemporary films. Not that it's going to happen though...

ianungstad · #320 Post by **ianungstad** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:58 pm

dx23 wrote:
fortunato wrote:how about santa sangre?
I think Anchor Bay has the right to that one.

Anchor Bay has the rights in the UK. In the states it is a part of the Paramount library via Republic Pictures. Paramount licensed all the Republic films to Lionsgate (I think)....so I guess they have the rights.

fortunato · #321 Post by **fortunato** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:23 am

ianungstad wrote:
dx23 wrote:
fortunato wrote:how about santa sangre?
I think Anchor Bay has the right to that one.
Anchor Bay has the rights in the UK. In the states it is a part of the Paramount library via Republic Pictures. Paramount licensed all the Republic films to Lionsgate (I think)....so I guess they have the rights.

i really wish someone would put it out.
goodness, it's been unavailable in the states for quite some time now, and several of his other films have gotten a nice treatment recently.

justeleblanc · #322 Post by **justeleblanc** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:24 am

Sorry if this has been repeated (search proved to be no good for this), but as a Hou Hsiao Hsien newbie, would there be any chance of Criterion releasing his Taiwanese History Trilogy that consists of City of Sadness, The Puppetmaster and Good Men, Good Women? I saw the terrific fake Criterion cover art of other HHH films, and didn't know if someone has asked about HHH recently? A number of his films were released by Fox Lorber, meaning that they have most likely reverted back to their original copyright holders. Would these films even be available?

Just a thought.

myrnaloyisdope · #323 Post by **myrnaloyisdope** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:28 pm

I would love to see some HHH in the collection. I don't think City of Sadness has been released on DVD with English subs before.

My most desired film for the collection would probably be Kiarostami's Homework, what a great film. I'm consistently amazed at how Kiarostami is able to get so much out of such a simple concept. All he does in the film is ask a bunch of kids about their homework for 80 minutes, and what results is one of the most powerful and informative documentaries I've ever seen.

Plus it has no formal DVD release, and the collection could use some more Kiarostami, and some more documentaries.

ellipsis7 · #324 Post by **ellipsis7** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:12 pm

HOMEWORK is scheduled to come to DVD with French subs in R2 from Les Films du Paradoxe in March 2009, precise date tbc... Just the other night rewatched my DVD-R copy from VHS off Film Four (with English subs), following viewing of PERSEPOLIS - very interesting juxtaposition...

Any more Kiarostami in the Collection would definitely be manna from heaven!...

justeleblanc · #325 Post by **justeleblanc** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:07 pm

I'm also a bit surprised that Criterion hasn't ventured into more Kiarostami.

As for HHH's trilogy, this is a real trilogy right? It's not something concocted by cinephiles bloggers in the last two years, right? I've only seen it mentioned on Wikipedia. Given the importance of HHH, I would venture that if they were to release the three films, it would not be Eclipse... but who knows.

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