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arsonfilms · #101 Post by **arsonfilms** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:31 am

I think the bumper-grill thing could mean car, but then barbecue would seem to indicate some pyrotechnic elements as well. Any EXPLODING car movies in the Janus vault? Or perhaps some post-apocalyptic something or other? Mad Max?

Or maybe this means a Walkabout reissue. Didn't the dad torch the car?

mikeohhh · #102 Post by **mikeohhh** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:34 am

arsonfilms wrote:Or maybe this means a Walkabout reissue. Didn't the dad torch the car?

so far this makes the most sense, except, being a reissue, it would be Criterion's SECOND-ever bumper grill barbeque

arsonfilms · #103 Post by **arsonfilms** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:34 am

And actually, Walkabout was Criterion's first-ever DVD release (ten years ago this May). Between that and the burning car thing, I'd say that's gotta be it.

starmanof51 · #104 Post by **starmanof51** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:34 am

mianda72 wrote:
domino harvey wrote:Okay I think it has to be a car movie because I believe bumper-grill barbecue here is a pun and not an accurate description. Anyone know any car movies that Janus owns?
Tati's Traffic ?

Oh, we might have a winner here. Doesn't Hulot's car turn into a barbecue?

Toshiro De Niro · Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:52 am

i hope it's Grindhouse...

miless · #106 Post by **miless** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:26 am

Zazou dans le Metro wrote:
miless wrote:
Zazou dans le Metro wrote:Could it be a quince??
quinces sure don't look like that (they look like a lumpy, misshapen apple-pear-thing)
Well they do in my garden and what is that thing if not a lumpy misshapen
apple-pear thing.....drawn badly

most quinces I've ever seen look like this.

years ago I had heard about Criterion acquiring the rights to a (or possibly several) films from Brazil's Cinema Novo movement... possibly the gourd has something to do with that?

shumpy · #107 Post by **shumpy** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:29 am

starmanof51 wrote:
mianda72 wrote:
domino harvey wrote:Okay I think it has to be a car movie because I believe bumper-grill barbecue here is a pun and not an accurate description. Anyone know any car movies that Janus owns?
Tati's Traffic ?
Oh, we might have a winner here. Doesn't Hulot's car turn into a barbecue?

If memory serves, the prototype car Tati drives comes with a built-in barbecue. Regardless, it's almost certainly the film in question.

nazarin · #108 Post by **nazarin** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:34 am

The drawing looks sort of like a bomb to me. What looks like the stem could be a fuse. The verbal clue might refer to Godard's WEEKEND (1967), esp. the massive automobile pile-up, "barbecue" the film's cannabalistic elements. To me, "First-ever" suggests it's new to the collection, not a re-release.

tavernier · #109 Post by **tavernier** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:38 am

Weekend is the best guess yet.

kaujot · #110 Post by **kaujot** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:41 am

Weekend or Trafic.

Either is fine with me.

miless · #111 Post by **miless** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:42 am

Weekend is, however, already on DVD.

tavernier · #112 Post by **tavernier** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:46 am

Not in the Collection.

Macintosh · #113 Post by **Macintosh** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:48 am

tavernier wrote:Not in the Collection.

When was the last time Criterion obtained the dvd rights from New Yorker video?

I say it's gotta be Trafic

nazarin · #114 Post by **nazarin** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:50 am

Trafic is fine by me.

#115 Post by **domino harvey** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:13 am

You can debate most things, but that's 100% a gourd.

filmghost · #116 Post by **filmghost** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:25 am

This should be the funniest and weirdest speculation over a title. Ever.

Donald Brown · #117 Post by **Donald Brown** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:26 am

A gourd is the first and only thing that came to mind when I saw the newsletter.

filmghost · #118 Post by **filmghost** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:30 am

I have to confess that my knowledge of english vocabulary on vegetables is more complete now. I had to look into a dictionary in order to find out what a gourd is!

denti alligator · Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:34 am

filmghost wrote:I have to confess that my knowledge of english vocabulary on vegetables is more complete now. I had to look into a dictionary in order to find out what a gourd is!

Fuck, I had no idea a gourd actually is a fruit! I was going to correct filmghost, and explain that a gourd is in fact a vessel used for drinking. It turns out that it's "a hollow, dried shell of a fruit in the Cucurbitaceae family of plants of the genus Lagenaria" that can be used as a bowl or bottle, among many other things.

miless · #120 Post by **miless** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:36 am

a hard, inedible squash.
Gourds can be hybridized with nearly any other type of squash... and the outcome is always a gourd.

starmanof51 · #121 Post by **starmanof51** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:40 am

filmghost wrote:This should be the funniest and weirdest speculation over a title. Ever.

I look forward to bouncing grandchildren on my knee, regaling them with stories of the great quince-gourd debate of aught eight.

filmghost · #122 Post by **filmghost** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:49 am

denti alligator wrote:
filmghost wrote:I have to confess that my knowledge of english vocabulary on vegetables is more complete now. I had to look into a dictionary in order to find out what a gourd is!
Fuck, I had no idea a gourd actually is a fruit! I was going to correct filmghost, and explain that a gourd is in fact a vessel used for drinking. It turns out that it's "a hollow, dried shell of a fruit in the Cucurbitaceae family of plants of the genus Lagenaria" that can be used as a bowl or bottle, among many other things.

Well, I've seen those things before (they actually grow in our garden in Crete) but I hadn't seen the word before and it never occured to me that I would learn how they are called in english thanks to this forum! (I actually thought that the drawing was a pear)

kaujot · #123 Post by **kaujot** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:51 am

In any case, why isn't this thread stickied?

Shrew · #124 Post by **Shrew** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:59 am

Maybe it's Cronenberg's Crash? Making the phrase "bumper-grill barbecue" a little vomit worthy.

daniel p · #125 Post by **daniel p** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:02 am

if there was a "bumper grill bbq" in Life of Brian, I'd throw that title in...
there is a gourd...
that's how I knew what it was...

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