The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg/James Mangold, 1981-2023)

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flyonthewall2983 · Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:53 am

I'm referring to the title specifically, but you raise a good point.

patrick · #127 Post by **patrick** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:23 am

The poster looks nice, although anyone planning on going to the theater and seeing Harrison Ford look that chiseled is in for a major disappointment. It at least makes me feel like this will at worst just be pure fanboy pandering instead of Lucas finding new and innovative ways to fuck up.

Cde. · #128 Post by **Cde.** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:07 am

flyonthewall2983 wrote:Really, how is this title any less ridiculous than the titles of the previous films? And what would have satisfied a more positive response from this board?

The titles of the previous films were lovably ridiculous. Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Temple of Doom, The Last Crusade... They capture the adventure matinée feel very well. The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is the odd one out as it's way too specific, which has the added effect of making the title unnecessarily long.

Nothing · #129 Post by **Nothing** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:03 am

Hold on a minute, though... Indy fighting the Soviets?! That just isn't right...

Antoine Doinel · #130 Post by **Antoine Doinel** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:46 pm

Interesting observation --- the acronym of the title is KOCS.

#131 Post by **Jeff** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:34 pm

Antoine Doinel wrote:Interesting observation --- the acronym of the title is KOCS.

Okay, Antoine, you've convinced me. I'll change the thread title.

Joe Buck · #132 Post by **Joe Buck** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:10 pm

Troublesome thought....what if at the end of the film Indy gives LaBoeuf his own hat and whip and then the franchise lives on as the "New" Indiana Jones adventures, with young hip kid you the teenagers come out to see. Indy turns into teen romance and fart and dick jokes. Then the inevitable Indy Jones and The Dukes of Hazzard County. Michael Bay could direct. And then of course Indy X where he's a stowaway on a space ship or something like that. Oh, and Indy vs. Predator. That's a good one. We're talking about Paramont here, people. They tried to make a Godfather movie without Coppola or Puzo, so don't put anything past them.

Antoine Doinel · #133 Post by **Antoine Doinel** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:29 pm

Or even worse, maybe Paramount is already planning the DVD release of INDIANA JONES AND THE KOCS - UNRATED AND WHIPPED EDITION!

Cde. · #134 Post by **Cde.** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:13 am

This is just way too easy.

Antoine Doinel · Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:09 pm

A first look at the KOCS......in Lego.

#136 Post by **domino harvey** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:11 pm

Conversation overheard while waiting in line at the movies the other day:

(Five year old girl runs up to look at IJ4 Poster)
Girl: Look it's Harrison Ford
Mom: That can't be Harrison Ford
Girl: It's Harrison Ford.
Mom: (Long pause) Why?

I think if all of America has the same reaction there might be hope yet. And did I know who Harrison Ford was when I was five years old?

Antoine Doinel · Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:12 pm

Well, that scenario will certainly help sell more Lego sets.

Chull · #138 Post by **Chull** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:11 pm

domino harvey wrote:Conversation overheard while waiting in line at the movies the other day:

(Five year old girl runs up to look at IJ4 Poster)
Girl: Look it's Harrison Ford
Mom: That can't be Harrison Ford
Girl: It's Harrison Ford.
Mom: (Long pause) Why?

I think if all of America has the same reaction there might be hope yet. And did I know who Harrison Ford was when I was five years old?

Hope for what - the movie, or America?

#139 Post by **domino harvey** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:52 pm

There couldn't possibly be a movie I have hope for less than this

GoldenPilgrim · #140 Post by **GoldenPilgrim** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:45 pm

This movie could potentially spawn as many bad, "KOCS," jokes as Walk Hard had with its, "Cox," jokes.

Cde. · #141 Post by **Cde.** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:33 am

domino harvey wrote:There couldn't possibly be a movie I have hope for less than this

What about McG's Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins?

sevenarts · #142 Post by **sevenarts** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:17 am

This Variety feature goes into some depth on Spielberg, Lucas, and the new film. There are even some pretty huge spoilers on pages 4-5 of the article, which, if anything could make me look forward to this film less, those actually did it. If this movie is even remotely about what this article says it's about, it will be the laughingstock of the year.

Here be spoilers:

Spoiler

I looked around and I said, â€˜Well, maybe we shouldn't do a 30s serial, because now we're in the 50s. What is the same kind of cheesy-entertainment action movie, what was the secret B movie, of the 50s?' So instead of doing a 30s Republic serial, we're doing a B science-fiction movie from the 50s. The ones I'm talking about are, like, The Creature from the Black Lagoon, The Blob, The Thing. So by putting it in that context, it gave me a way of approaching the whole thing.â€

#143 Post by **domino harvey** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:22 am

oh my God

John Cope · #144 Post by **John Cope** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:55 am

sevenarts wrote:If this movie is even remotely about what this article says it's about, it will be the laughingstock of the year.

Why? In all honesty, I guess I just don't get the antipathy for this idea. I mean why not this? Is it really that much more ridiculous than the other three? Come on. Please explain this to me and feel free to use "inviso-text" if you find it necessary.

I actually dig the idea because it feels to me like somebody (Lucas, in this case, for once) actually considered the implications of the project both practically and aesthetically. They're trying to accommodate Ford's age and they wind up in a certain time period by doing so. That time period produced a different variation on the models they were using in the past. This allows them a terrific liberating opportunity to both return to the well (by following the central character's continuity--he's a personality or presence constructed by a different period's expectations) and to place that familiar central personality in an altered aesthetic context which will place different demands upon him. It sounds to me like a fascinating meta-experiment; I'd think you'd all love it!

GoldenPilgrim · #145 Post by **GoldenPilgrim** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:55 am

I don't know. We already knew it was going to be bad, so maybe, just maybe, this will push the movie into GOOD bad territory. On second thought, no it won't, we're fucked.

#146 Post by **domino harvey** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:03 am

John Cope wrote:
sevenarts wrote:If this movie is even remotely about what this article says it's about, it will be the laughingstock of the year.
Why? In all honesty, I guess I just don't get the antipathy for this idea. I mean why not this? Is it really that much more ridiculous than the other three?

Maybe you missed the part where Lucas said there were magical beings in the skulls?

If it's not even trying poorly ape a movie serial-- the only reason for watching any of the other films to begin with-- the movie has even less reason to exist than it did before this bombshell dropped.

Antoine Doinel · #147 Post by **Antoine Doinel** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:17 am

Since when did the writers of the X-Files get singularly credited with the oh so unique alien theories surrounding Area 51?

J Chastain · #148 Post by **J Chastain** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:02 am

Quoting George Lucas from his interview: [quote]Because it's one of those things like, we didn't have to do it. Steven knew as well as I did, because by the time we really got down to the end, I'd already done the pent-up-expectation movie, which was Phantom Menace, and I said, â€œYou know, we're not going to win on thisâ€”at all. We live in a new world now. Critics will hate it. The fans will hate it. But it'll probably do wellâ€

Cde. · #149 Post by **Cde.** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:15 am

At least no one can say that Lucas isn't honest.

Magic Hate Ball · Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:38 am

Leaked title screencap:

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