I'm Not There (Todd Haynes, 2007)

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Matt
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#51 Post by Matt »

Here's the soundtrack listing:

“All Along The Watchtowerâ€
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#52 Post by domino harvey »

I usually steer clear of soundtracks but there is an impressive array of great acts on those discs, clearly an exception is going to have to be made. =D>
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#53 Post by tavernier »

For a fan of Dylan the songwriter more than Dylan the performer, this should be fun to listen to.
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#54 Post by Jean-Luc Garbo »

Is there a soundtrack coming out or is that still being worked on? I really want to hear Antony, Mark Lanegan, and John Doe. The Calexico ones all look good, but I have hopes for the one with Willie Nelson. I don't see why Karen O is on here. Couldn't they just get the version that PJ Harvey did? She rips off PJ Harvey often enough. :) The one with Malkmus and Lee Ranaldo should be a hoot.
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#55 Post by domino harvey »

The above is the assumed soundtrack tracklist, in alphabetical order. There's been blog speculation that it's gonna be a two disc affair.
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#56 Post by Barmy »

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#57 Post by Antoine Doinel »

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#58 Post by tavernier »

Barmy wrote:In New York it's being released at Film Forum, of all places, which means it's basically being dumped.
Not really, says Variety:
The Weinstein Co.'s multifaceted, experimental Bob Dylan biopic "I'm Not There" is taking a suitably quirky path to release, playing downtown Gotham's fabled Film Forum for two weeks.

Concurrent with the run at the West Village temple of foreign-language and hard-to-find fare (recent breakouts there include "Army of Shadows" and "Into Great Silence"), the film will play Lincoln Plaza. The latter is a common launch pad for pics such as last year's "The Queen" or "Last King of Scotland," which leverage the often-robust per-screens to gain key engagements as they roll out.

Todd Haynes' Dylan pic, which takes the unusual tack of having multiple actors portray the musician, is a rarity in that it will have played Venice and Toronto on the way to its Nov. 21 bow (also in a couple of L.A. sites).

The Gotham arrangement reps a rare violation of the "clearance" that typically prevents any pic playing at the Film Forum from also unspooling at another Manhattan site. The opportunity for the dual play, plus access to the Film Forum's membership-driven mailing list of 25,000 avid film buffs, made the release a viable proposition for TWC.
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#59 Post by Barmy »

Glad to see that the 80-something Lincoln Plaza crowd will be able to see this too. Nevertheless, unless this is expanding later, it is not a real release.
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#60 Post by Rich Malloy »

tavernier wrote:For a fan of Dylan the songwriter more than Dylan the performer, this should be fun to listen to.
As someone who finds Dylan's performances to be as brilliant as his compositions, I'm thrilled that his performance of "I'm Not There" is to be on the soundtrack! And, apparently, it's the only Dylan performance to be included. As far as I know, this is the first official release of a song that seems to have taken on some kind of supreme significance within Dylan's "lost" catalog... due to Greil Marcus, perhaps? I don't know it merits all that, but it's certainly one of my favorites from the (bootleg) basement tapes. Seems like it might be something of a big deal for it to finally get an official release!
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#61 Post by David Ehrenstein »

Very impressive, Blanchett makes a great Dylan (and black and white 'Scope is always a treat). Also, the music at the end of the clip is by Nino Rota from Fellini's Casanova... I wonder if that will actually be in the film, or if it's just in the temp track.
Good question. There's also a trailer on YouTube with "Superstar" as its musical theme.

Black and white scope is very Philippe Garrel.
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#62 Post by miless »

David Ehrenstein wrote:
Very impressive, Blanchett makes a great Dylan (and black and white 'Scope is always a treat). Also, the music at the end of the clip is by Nino Rota from Fellini's Casanova... I wonder if that will actually be in the film, or if it's just in the temp track.
Good question. There's also a trailer on YouTube with "Superstar" as its musical theme.

Black and white scope is very Philippe Garrel.
according to the description for the NYFF, each section (with a different actor) is shot in the style of a different iconic filmmaker of the era (60's: Fellini, 70's:Peckinpah, etc...)
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#63 Post by Jeff »

Here's your six Dylans:


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From left to right: Christian Bale, Cate Blanchett, Marcus Carl Franklin, Richard Gere, Heath Ledger, Ben Whishaw

And some more Bale, Blanchett, Gere, Ledger, and non-Dylan Julianne Moore.

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#64 Post by Lino »

Is Moore playing Joan Baez?
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#65 Post by David Ehrenstein »

Yep.
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#66 Post by chaddoli »

TWC is releasing Anton Corbijn's Control at Film Forum as well, on October 10th.
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#67 Post by flyonthewall2983 »

From that picture, Julianne has a really striking resemblance to Joan you don't see too often in bio-pics. I have to say though, the only two actors of the six that come close to resembling Dylan are Blanchett and Whishaw (whom I never heard of, btw). Bale looks like Harrison Ford in American Graffiti and Gere looks like a hobo.
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#68 Post by Kudzu »

flyonthewall2983 wrote:Gere looks like a hobo.
The more I look at the picture, I think Kris Kristofferson.

A picture about him would be interesting taken with left-field techniques(a semiotic reframing of Blade!).
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#69 Post by Hrossa »

According to the credits listed on IMDB Julianne Moore is playing "Alice".
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#70 Post by David Ehrenstein »

"Alice" is the name Todd has given to the Joan Baez character.
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#71 Post by Jeff »

flyonthewall2983 wrote:From that picture, Julianne has a really striking resemblance to Joan you don't see too often in bio-pics. I have to say though, the only two actors of the six that come close to resembling Dylan are Blanchett and Whishaw (whom I never heard of, btw). Bale looks like Harrison Ford in American Graffiti and Gere looks like a hobo.
It's not really a biopic in any traditional sense, with the actors not necessarily playing Dylan, but playing aspects of his personality. I don't think that a physical resemblance is at all necessary for what Haynes is trying to do, but it remains to be seen whether or not it will work.

If you're not familiar with Ben Wishaw, you'll want to check out Tom Tykwer's Perfume: The Story of a Murderer. Wishaw is the lead, and carries the film admirably.
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#72 Post by flyonthewall2983 »

I tend not to mind if an actor in a bio-pic has little resemblance to the person he or she is playing, as long as the performance carries it through. Val Kilmer looked nothing like Jim Morrison when he played him, but he seemed to definitely channel (at least in part) the frenetic energy he had when he was on the stage.
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#73 Post by David Ehrenstein »

"Val Kilmer looked nothing like Jim Morrison when he played him, but he seemed to definitely channel (at least in part) the frenetic energy he had when he was on the stage."
Todd's trying for something else. This isn't about Dylan "himself" so much as it is about the worlds he travelled though. Todd told me the film will be "The secret history of the 60's."

He was born in 1961 -- yet he got the late 50's perfectly in Far From Heaven. I have little doubt that he will repeat that performance with this era.
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#74 Post by Sanjuro »

Gere represents the travelling hobo tradition of folks like Woodie Guthrie and so on who Bob loved to imitate in the early years. Hence the reason he looks like a hobo I guess...
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#75 Post by chaddoli »

I do think though the black young man, Marcus Carl Franklin, is playing Dylan's "Woody" phase. For some reason I got the impression Gere was playing his late 70s "White Face" period centered around the time "Hard Rain" was released. I thought I saw a still with Gere in clown make-up.

Speaking in general though, has there been much speculation as to what each character name means? My only source is IMDB, but Christian Bale playing Bob Dylan/John/Jack is probably referring to the Kennedys, so early 60s? Cate as Bob Dylan/Jude, probably meaning Judas, when he "sold out" to rock and roll in the mid-60s. And of course Franklin, a child, playing Dylan/Woody, as he first absorbed his influence and learned how to play? I have no guesses about Authur, Billy or Ledger's characters.
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