The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg/James Mangold, 1981-2023)

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Joe Buck
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#51 Post by Joe Buck »

I just threw up a little in my mouth.
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#52 Post by Fletch F. Fletch »

domino harvey wrote:No longer a rumor
Dear Lord... River Phoenix must be rolling over in his grave.
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#53 Post by Roger_Thornhill »

I've never seen any film with him, is he really that bad?
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#54 Post by domino harvey »

search YouTube for Even Stevens clips to see him pre-nose job/puberty
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#55 Post by dx23 »

I always thought he was one of the Savage brothers, as in the Wonder Years Fred and Boy Meets World Ben. He is now starring in the Rear Window wannabe knockoff, Disturbia. Judging by his appereance recently at SNL, he is not much of an acting prodigy.
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#56 Post by DrewReiber »

domino harvey wrote:No longer a rumor
My turn to say I told you guys so. Lebouf was lying through his teeth during those pre-contract interviews and his words and attitude smacked of it. Now we can all look forward to Lucas' by-the-numbers kid show. FAN-TAS-TIC.
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#57 Post by Antoine Doinel »

dx23 wrote:Judging by his appereance recently at SNL, he is not much of an acting prodigy.
Though to be fair, judging any actor by their SNL appearance, given the show's thorough shittiness these days, isn't entirely fair.

I've only seen Shia LeBeouf in his small role in Constantine which isn't really much to judge him by and I'm mostly just heard his name bandied about for the past year or two, so I'm really quite indifferent to his actual casting.

What does bother me about the casting is that this already needless sequel, is most likely going to be some kind of retread of Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade (huh, I guess that title is somewhat superfluous now) territory retread without the cool hunt for the grail, and probably really terrible "generational" humor, ie. Indiana Jones And The Wacky Family Vacation.
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#58 Post by Mr Sausage »

This is about as bad an idea as giving James Bond a son. I can just picture LeBouf rebelling against his father, annoyed at the shadow of the man, ect., ect., until at the end they reconcile and he takes over his father's role of archaeologist/adventurer. Look for lots of over-the-shoulder witticisms between father and son during fight scenes. I don't quite understand why Indiana Jones is no longer large enough of a figure to stand at the centre of his own movies.

This news reminds me of one of Tobias' lines from Arrested Development: "Well it just makes me want to vomit all over your head, sir."
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#59 Post by colinr0380 »

Mr_sausage wrote:This is about as bad an idea as giving James Bond a son. I can just picture LeBouf rebelling against his father, annoyed at the shadow of the man, ect., ect., until at the end they reconcile and he takes over his father's role of archaeologist/adventurer.
Even worse they could spin this off into a television series. Imagine the 'Young Indiana Jones Chronicles'...wait a second.
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#60 Post by Antoine Doinel »

Well, if anyone knows how to bastardize and milk a franchise for the most money possible, it's George Lucas.
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#61 Post by Fletch F. Fletch »

Antoine Doinel wrote:What does bother me about the casting is that this already needless sequel, is most likely going to be some kind of retread of Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade (huh, I guess that title is somewhat superfluous now) territory retread without the cool hunt for the grail, and probably really terrible "generational" humor, ie. Indiana Jones And The Wacky Family Vacation.
yeah, with cameos by Chevy Chase and Randy Quaid... :wink:
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#62 Post by Joe Buck »

The shitter's full, Indy.
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#63 Post by Nothing »

LaBeouf is pretty good in Guide to Recognizing Your Saints, although the film itself fairly stinks.

I don't think it matters who you cast, the whole idea of the role is misconceived. But then Indy died in 1984 anyway.
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#64 Post by Forrest Taft »

According to aintitcool the title is INDIANA JONES & THE CITY OF GODS. Could be worse I guess, and the title suggests the film being closer to RAIDERS and CRUSADE than TEMPLE OF DOOM. Unlike many here, I'm looking forward to this, although bringing the son in is really a terrible idea.
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#65 Post by exte »

Darabont Strikes Back

[quote] “It was a tremendous disappointment and a waste of a year,â€
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#66 Post by The Invunche »

Frank, did you watch the prequels?
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#67 Post by Mr Sausage »

[quote="exte"]Darabont Strikes Back

[quote] “It was a tremendous disappointment and a waste of a year,â€
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#68 Post by exte »

I think the best way to answer whether Lucas did the right thing or not, aside from watching what Indy IV will be like, is releasing Darabont's script, but Spielberg confirmed that won't happen... unless it's leaked, of course, which, if it is, will probably happen only after the release of Indy IV.

Doesn't Lucas own Indy, anyway? There's really nothing Spielberg can do, and since they're friends, why tarnish the relationship over a script to a third sequal, of all things? We're not talking Schindler's List here. And, I don't know, should Indy really be going after UFOs? "You call this archaeology!?" Unless it connected dots to the pyramids or something, which actually would be cool. But what's the whip for, then?

Or maybe Darabont was allowed to go full force on his script, being the fan that he is, and do anything he wanted... so maybe he didn't dig the whole idea of the son. Maybe George has plans to spin the series off, somehow. I guess they'll gauge the charisma of the actor, and go from there. But wasn't the TV series, enough, in that regard?
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#69 Post by Antoine Doinel »

When did Frank Darabont become a respected screenwriter? Yes, The Shawshank Redemption was a nice film, but Darabont is highly overrated given his miniscule output that is largely adaptations of Stephen King writings. As for Spielberg, he's certainly worked on his fair share of films with questionable scripts (War Of The Worlds, A.I.) so whether or not he "liked" Darabont's script means very little.

I think Darabont is just more pissed that he spent a year of his time on a script that was ultimately dismissed by someone who has very little artistic credibility.

As for why Spielberg would allow himself to be vetoed by Lucas, your guess is as good as mine.
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#70 Post by Highway 61 »

Darabont's reputation as a screenwriting genius has always confused me too. My best guess is that he does all sorts of uncredited, but remarkable script doctoring like Robert Towne
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#71 Post by Antoine Doinel »

Various rumors surrounding the film are lined up and confirmed and denied here. The biggest piece of news is that Cate Blanchett will be villain.
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#72 Post by Jeff »

Connery is out, says Empire:

[quote]Connery said, via a statement, "I get asked the question so often; I thought it best to make an announcement. If anything could have pulled me out of retirement it would have been an Indiana Jones film. I love working with Steven and George, and it goes without saying that it is an honour to have Harrison as my son. But in the end, retirement is just too damned much fun. I, do however, have one bit of advice for Junior: Demand that the critters be digital, the cliffs be low, and for goodness sake keep that whip by your side at all times in case you need to escape from the stunt coordinator! This is a remarkable cast, and I can only say, ‘Break a leg, everyone.' I'll see you on May 22, 2008 at the theater!â€
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#73 Post by exte »

That sucks. I love the third film and now I see there's no continuity. Hopefully his character will be mentioned in some memorable way...
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#74 Post by Nothing »

connery was the first major indy misstep. this can only help.
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#75 Post by exte »

Nothing wrote:connery was the first major indy misstep. this can only help.
How so?
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