Hana yori mo naho / Even More Than Flowers (Hirokazu Kore-eda, 2006)

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Hana yori mo naho / Even More Than Flowers (Hirokazu Kore-eda, 2006)

#1 Post by Grimfarrow »

I had to check whether this info could go public or not. But it's a-ok, though I included the spoiler tag for a reason... Strangely, the plot sounds very Yamada Yoji-esque.

*Genre: SAMURAI DRAMA
*Director/Writer: Hirokazu Kore-eda (Nobody Knows, After Life)
*Projected release for 2006.
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A young samurai, Sozaemon Aoki departs to the city of Edo from his countryside hometown in north,
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to take revenge on his father's enemy. In a strange turn of events, Sozaemon meets Osae, a widower living in a tenement row house, and instantly falls in love. In meeting and living with the tenants of the row house, Sozaemon discovers a rich meaningful life rather than the meaningless death of a warrior.
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Director Kore-eda Hirokazu, brings out his first samurai film, after his internationally praised "Nobody Knows". The story follows a young samurai, fated to avenge his father's death. Will he choose vengeance and honor, or will he choose life?

Story:

The time is 1702.

A young samurai, Aoki Sozaemon (Okada Junichi) has left his countryside hometown, and is now living in Edo (now Tokyo), in search of Kanazawa Jubei (Asano Tadanobu), the man who killed his father.

He is living in a dilapidated tenement house, in the poor quarters of the city of Edo. His neighbors in the so-called "row houses" are all good, solid folk who can never even hope to rise out of the squalor of their surroundings. Sozaemon, the provincial samurai, becomes friends with a variety of characters including a habitual drunk, an unsuccessful would-be petty official, a ragman, a perky girl, a doctor, and a scrivener. As the relationships between the characters unfold we are led deeper in the blossoming love story of Sozaemon and the beautiful widow, Osae (Miyazawa Rie).

Although he has never forgot his task to find his father's enemy and to succeed in his vengeance, being around Osae and her son, Sozaemon feels a warm feeling inside, which leads to doubts about the entire act of revenge. However, to walk away from the "revenge-act (ADAUCHI)", could actually bring his entire family down, not only without the reward from the Shogun, but also, as a samurai, to be unsuccessful on revenge would be an act of cowardice, and a disgrace to the entire family name.

Sozaemon, still not being able to decide on if he should take the act of revenge, goes on with his everyday life, teaching the neighborhood children mathematics, reading and writing. He wonders whether he can ever enjoy life without the specter of revenge and swordplay.

With the discovery of the rich meaningful life rather than the meaningless death of a warrior, Sozaemon, together with his strange friends at the tenement row house, decides to plot an act of the lifetime...
Hirokazu Koreeda - Hana Yori Mo Nao

If the film title "Nobody Knows" brings images of Japan's amazing cinematic history to mind, you'll be pleased to know that director Hirokazu Koreeda's new film "Hana Yori Mo Nao" is coming soon to DVD with English subtitles

V6 member Junichi Okada stars as a poor samurai caught between avenging his father's death and living a peacefull life in the squalor of the shantytown of old Edo. An unskilled fighter, Okada's character Sozaemon must choose between an honorable death, or a pleasant life that may cause dishonor to his family. Also stars Tadanobu Asano, Rie Miyazawa, and Ryo Kase.

Hirokazu Koreeda's "Hana Yori Mo Nao" comes out November 24. Film available in both regular and limited editions (with bonus disc) which both feature English subtitles.
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#2 Post by Michael Kerpan »

Widower -- or widow?

Does sound rather Yamada-esque.

Sounds kind of like an upbeat version of "Humanity and Paper Balloons".
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Hey, I didn't write it :p
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#4 Post by Jun-Dai »

I'm a little suspicious. I haven't seen Distance, but each film seems one step below the previous one. I wonder where Mr. Koreeda is heading, and whether he will ever make another film as good as Maboroshi no hikari.
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#5 Post by yoshimori »

Yah. Kore-eda's been saying for several years he's been working on a jidai geki for Shochiku. Could be interesting.

I wonder who's shooting it. If Yamasaki, the doc-oriented dp of After Life, Distance, and Nobody Knows, it may be very different than the typical samurai flic.
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Jun-Dai wrote:I'm a little suspicious. I haven't seen Distance, but each film seems one step below the previous one. I wonder where Mr. Koreeda is heading, and whether he will ever make another film as good as Maboroshi no hikari.
I hope he won't turn out to be another Truffaut who, in my opinion, never made another film that was as good as his first film.
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artfilmfan wrote:I hope he won't turn out to be another Truffaut who, in my opinion, never made another film that was as good as his first film.
The fact that you had to qualify "I hope he won't turn out to be another Truffaut" says more about you than Truffaut.
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#8 Post by Michael Kerpan »

As far as I'm concerned, Kore'eda's first three features are all first-rate -- and his fourth might also be (waiting for additional viewings to be sure).

I wonder what "naho" means in the title? I can't find a translation! (And it isn't written with kanji -- only with hiragana).
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#9 Post by kiddish »

Michael Kerpan wrote:As far as I'm concerned, Kore'eda's first three features are all first-rate -- and his fourth might also be (waiting for additional viewings to be sure).
My feelings EXACTLY. However, I will add that I think After Life is his best work so far.
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#10 Post by Doctor Sunshine »

Michael Kerpan wrote:I wonder what "naho" means in the title?
My under-educated guess would be it's a woman's name, referring to someone not in the cast, I guess.
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#11 Post by davida2 »

I'll have to order this one; I'm assuming an R1 release will not be happening in a timely fashion.

To Jun-Dai: if you haven't yet, check out Distance. After repeat viewings of Kore'eda's first four, it has become my favorite; a real masterpiece. After many viewings I can see why the film might be seen as unmarketable, and it seems to have been very much ignored, but it would be a great contemporary film for Criterion or Palm to pick up...
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#12 Post by Jun-Dai »

As far as I'm concerned, Kore'eda's first three features are all first-rate -- and his fourth might also be (waiting for additional viewings to be sure).
No disagreement that his films are first-rate. To complain about his films as I do is a bit like being a spoiled child--I don't feel that either Afterlife or Nobody Knows can match up to Maboroshi no hikari (and Nobody Knows, in turn, was a comparative disappointment after Afterlife), and I very much want him to be on an upward curve. The comparison to Truffaut isn't entirely inadequate. I can't think of another director whose films seems to work their way downwards from the very top--never sinking all that low, true, but never again reaching the remarkable strength of his first film. That said, Koreeda's only made four fiction films so far, all three that I've seen very much worth watching. It'll be a long time before I don't give his latest film a chance.
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davida2 wrote:To Jun-Dai: if you haven't yet, check out Distance. After repeat viewings of Kore'eda's first four, it has become my favorite; a real masterpiece. After many viewings I can see why the film might be seen as unmarketable, and it seems to have been very much ignored, but it would be a great contemporary film for Criterion or Palm to pick up...
I'd like to second this. Next to Maboroshi, Distance is a favorite. After Life might be the most "idea" oriented, not that it wasn't a great film, but after repeated viewings, Distance and Maboroshi are just so beautifully put together. I hope his documentaries become available soon, and I look forward to this new film, though I'm expecting a dissapointment (partly because I feel lower expectations might help).
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Steven H wrote:
davida2 wrote:To Jun-Dai: if you haven't yet, check out Distance. After repeat viewings of Kore'eda's first four, it has become my favorite; a real masterpiece. After many viewings I can see why the film might be seen as unmarketable, and it seems to have been very much ignored, but it would be a great contemporary film for Criterion or Palm to pick up...
I'd like to second this. Next to Maboroshi, Distance is a favorite. After Life might be the most "idea" oriented, not that it wasn't a great film, but after repeated viewings, Distance and Maboroshi are just so beautifully put together. I hope his documentaries become available soon, and I look forward to this new film, though I'm expecting a dissapointment (partly because I feel lower expectations might help).
Thirded! (And, if I'm not mistaken, I think I remember Michael Kerpan speaking out in favour of Distance as well) I don't think any of Kore-eda's features to date have been mediocre, and they've all been quite different from one another (other than being thanatocentric - if that's a word). It sounds like the new film explores still more new ground.

Like several other people here, I probably liked Nobody Knows the least of the four, but it's still a hell of a film. Imagine how excited we'd be if it was the first film of a new director. I found After Life a slight let-down as well, after Maborosi, but still extremely impressive.

Distance, which I've got on a dirt-cheap, indifferent HK or Taiwanese disc, might be Kore-eda's densest film, and the hardest to pin down (the others are comparatively 'high-concept', to use an awful expression), but for me this also makes it the richest. Like the others, it's in part about coming to terms with death, but in this film that idea occupies a much broader social frame.
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#15 Post by brunosh »

I saw 'Hana...' at the London Film Festival a couple of days ago. It's earthy and exuberant and very funny, and no more sentimental than 'Maboroshi'. It's a cautionary tale for those who insist on revenge, illustrated both through the main plot and through a sub-plot's unheroic take on the 47 (or 46 in this case?) Loyal Ronin. Not what I would have predicted from Koreeda (all of whose other features I like very much), a film in a major key, but a welcome additional string to his bow (although it might not delight the thanatocentrically inclined - if thanatocentric isn't a word, it should be!).
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#16 Post by Andre Jurieu »

brunosh wrote:I saw 'Hana...' at the London Film Festival a couple of days ago. It's earthy and exuberant and very funny, and no more sentimental than 'Maboroshi'. It's a cautionary tale for those who insist on revenge, illustrated both through the main plot and through a sub-plot's unheroic take on the 47 (or 46 in this case?) Loyal Ronin. Not what I would have predicted from Koreeda (all of whose other features I like very much), a film in a major key, but a welcome additional string to his bow (although it might not delight the thanatocentrically inclined - if thanatocentric isn't a word, it should be!).
Plus, it has toilet humor.
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Doctor Sunshine wrote:
Michael Kerpan wrote:I wonder what "naho" means in the title?
My under-educated guess would be it's a woman's name, referring to someone not in the cast, I guess.
Hana yori mo naho literally Even More Than Flowers (Hirokazu Kore'eda, 2006)

Following Yoji Yamada's lead, Kore'eda travels back into the past -- to the dawn of the 1700s. One sees sign not only of Yamada's influence here, but also of the director who inspired Yamada himself -- Sadao Yamanaka. What we see here is the bottom rung of the samurai world, depicted with plenty of both humor and pathos. Our protagonist is Soza Aoki (Junichi Okada), who is expected by his clan to find and kill the man who killed his father in a brawl. Though he has not made much progress on his quest, he has made the acquaintance of a pretty widow (Rie Miyazawa) and her young son (who idolizes him). To keep busy, he has been running a school of sorts for the townsfolk, much to the disgust of the other down and out samurai in the neighborhood (some of the 47 Loyal Ronin -- biding their time in poverty, waiting for orders). His fellow samurai are also annoyed by his obvious lack of martial skills. When Aoki does discover his foe (Tadanobu Asano), he also discovers that the man is living virtuously with a widow (working as a commoner) and has "adopted" her son. To complicate matters, the two boys become friends. His dilemma, how to satisfy his relatives -- and yet not do any real harm.

This is a thoroughly enjoyable film. If a few spots are a little slow, they serve to give a flavor of the time in question. The new Japanese DVD looks quite good -- and has fine subtitles.

A few screen captures in the scree capture thread....
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#18 Post by brunosh »

Michael, I watched the Japanese DVD (standard not SE) last night and enjoyed it as much as at the LFF although my kids (9 and 10, and half-Japanese) decided half way through that a cardgame would be a better use of their time. What I take to be the 'author's message for our times' came across even more strongly this time.

Were there any faults on your copy of the DVD? We got white pixellated lines across the top half of the screen for a few seconds at around the 2-hour mark and I'm wondering if this is a general fault with the pressing or peculiar to me copy? I would take it back to the corner shop but am not sure I can be bothered to ship it back to YesAsia for such a short-lived problem. Apart from this, I too thought the transfer was fine.

Edit: Ooops, just tried it again on a couple of different players and it played fine!
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#19 Post by Michael Kerpan »

Glad this works properly -- on one player or another. (Our main DVD player is also just starting to get a bit cranky -- after a long trouble-free career).

I haven't gotten to re-watch this yet -- but it has continued to accrue more affection in retrospect...

The only film I saw theatrically is "Nobody Knows" -- but the Japanese DVDs of the other films are gorgeous -- so I expect these should look quite impressive when screened.

One of my favorite "younger" directors...
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#20 Post by soma »

He's someone that (other than the much publicised Nobody Knows) slipped my radar to be honest, but judging from the comments round here I'm really looking forward to exploring him further. I love retrospectives, if not at the cinema then at home on DVD as a personally programmed retrospective. I like being able to see a collective body of work from a director in a short space of time and reflect on the similarities between them, how the director has grown, which films I like better, and why, and get a solid feel for a particular director's "style".

Was also pleasantly surprised to learn my favourite (living) Japanese actor, Asano Tadanobu, is in three of Kore-eda's films - Hana, Distance, and Maborosi.
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#21 Post by Michael Kerpan »

It looks like Kore'eda's wonderful "poor samurai" film has gotten US distribution -- with a DVD coming out next week.

I hope other people will take a look at this film now.
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#22 Post by origami_mustache »

Michael Kerpan wrote:Widower -- or widow?

Does sound rather Yamada-esque.

Sounds kind of like an upbeat version of "Humanity and Paper Balloons".
Yeah, I had a professor for a contemporary Japanese film class and also a International sound film (1930-1950) and he showed both films in the different classes as sort of companion pieces for the students in both classes.
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#23 Post by sidehacker »

Psst...welcome, origami. You have one of the best avatars ever!

I will see this in due time but I still need to make Distance a priority. Should see a decent version of Maborosi as well. Then again, I also have seen nothing from Jun Ichikawa. I'm woefully behind in contemporary Japanese cinema.
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#24 Post by PimpPanda »

I saw this at TIFF 06 and it was delightful. I need to see Maborosi and Distance.
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#25 Post by origami_mustache »

sidehacker wrote:Psst...welcome, origami. You have one of the best avatars ever!
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