Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol. 4

The scuttlebutt on Criterion, Eclipse, and Janus Films. Lists and polls are STRONGLY discouraged.
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#276 Post by zedz » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:37 pm

I don't know if any of those are quite so urgent a recovery project as Yellow Earth. Has that ever had a decent home video release? For such a seminal film, it's certainly disappeared pretty thoroughly. How about a Fifth Generation box including that, Red Sorghum and Horse Thief, for a start?

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#277 Post by Shrew » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:15 pm

I think the problem is that so many of the 80s Chinese films had complicated financial backing from different sources, which complicates the rights issues for home release. Same trouble with 80s Taiwan films. By the 90s Zhang and Chen had enough of a cache to get regular distribution, hence the better availability and quality (save perhaps poor Ju Dou), even if the extras are nil.

But a decent release is a nice dream. (I'd also love a good release of Platform, complete with the longer original cut, but I'm not Tim Tebow.)

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#278 Post by Numero Trois » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:52 am

stroszeck wrote:Any chance of a boxset, (at this point I would even take an Eclipse set) of Raise the Red Lantern, The Story of Qiu Ju, Ju Duo and Red Sorghum? Zhang Yimou's chinese films are shockingly underrated
Yes, that would be great. But is he underrated? Twenty years ago he was regularly in conversation as one of the top directors worldwide.

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#279 Post by Wu.Qinghua » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:32 am

zedz wrote:I don't know if any of those are quite so urgent a recovery project as Yellow Earth. Has that ever had a decent home video release?
I don't think so. As far as I remember Yellow Earth has only been released without subtitles in China some years ago. But there's at least a new DVD release of Zhang's 'Red Sorghum' which came out last year in Germany and which, as far as I remember, is pretty decent although it's not english-friendly.

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#280 Post by stroszeck » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:08 pm

Yes I still consider him to be underrated, and he's certainly not a household name at this point. Underrated and underseen in particular are those late 80s early 90s pieces, not the recent....er, i hate to say it but Crouching Tiger wannabe glossy epics he's been churning out (although I know many many people love those). I miss the beauty of Gong Li's performances in those movies, and certainly Ju Dou and Red Sorghum should be at least available in pristine prints if only to provide a context for his later work for both cinephiles and the masses to appreciate. Remember, in the early 90s he was THE director of Chinese dramas (maybe one of the few handful whose films were regularly shown in arthouse American theaters), and its strange to see those films are largely ignored on home video.

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#281 Post by ptatler » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:23 pm

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#282 Post by CSM126 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:43 pm

I NEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED THAT WAS GOING TO BE A CRITERION

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#283 Post by ptatler » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:44 pm

CSM126 wrote:I NEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED THAT WAS GOING TO BE A CRITERION
I KNOW. SHOCKING.

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#284 Post by zeroman987 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:13 pm

I was disappointed with Le Havre. I love both of the Eclipse sets but for whatever reason Le Havre never felt right outside of a couple scenes (the refugee camp scene for example). The tone of the film did not really fit the story is the only way I feel like I can put it into words. Anyone else have the feeling?

Maybe it was because I saw it on one of the worst dates ever and my feelings about the woman I saw it with bled through to the movie.

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#285 Post by Matt » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:14 pm

Grey Gardens blu upgrade coming, per the newsletter.

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#286 Post by duck duck » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:37 pm

I may be really late on this one but in regards to the New Year's picture, the two tiered car carrier is also an "Eating Raoul" reference.
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It's actually a major plot point and leads to the eating of Raoul

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#287 Post by stroszeck » Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:24 pm

By the way, with the recent highly successful retrospective of his work at the Film Forum, are we set to see any of the newly restored Bresson's enter the collection soon?

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#288 Post by FerdinandGriffon » Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:58 pm

L'argent had the Janus logo in front. And it's about time for Proces de Jeanne d'Arc.

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#289 Post by jwd5275 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:26 pm

FerdinandGriffon wrote:L'argent had the Janus logo in front. And it's about time for Proces de Jeanne d'Arc.
In the Berkeley BAM/PFA Bresson series, L'argent, Le Proces de Jeanne d'Arc, and A Man Escaped are all listed as coming from Janus and Lancelot of the Lake is listed as coming from Gaumont, so it also is a possibility. The Devil Probably is listed as coming from Film Desk and Olive films.

Les anges du péché, Une femme douce, and Four Nights of a Dreamer are presented by names that I am not familiar with (...or in the case of Une femme douce, nobody at all).

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#290 Post by Gregory » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:42 pm

Four Nights of a Dreamer says "permission Gian Vittorio Baldi." Anyone know what this might imply about a possible release on disc?
He was a producer of the film, so could the rights be negotiated with him?
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#291 Post by zedz » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:46 pm

jwd5275 wrote: (...or in the case of Une femme douce, nobody at all).
I don't know if things have changed, but it used to be that you could only obtain this film by going through Mylene (and meeting with her personal approval). Which is why it's so hard to see.

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#292 Post by stroszeck » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:56 pm

Crap, I only had enough time to attend either a screening of Devil Probably or Une Femme Douce and I chose the former....wish they would've screened the latter for one extra week....

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#293 Post by duck duck » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:37 am

a woman washes?
Une femme douce

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#294 Post by Jeff » Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:15 am

duck duck wrote:a woman washes?
Une femme douce
You are mixing up douce and douche. Douce means soft or gentle.

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#295 Post by colinr0380 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:33 am

Also as in Truffaut's La peau douce/The Soft Skin

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#296 Post by nolanoe » Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:00 am

Argh, posted this in the wrong thread... here goes:

How big are the chances we'll see HEAVEN'S GATE from Criterion in 2012?

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#297 Post by Brian C » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:24 am


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#298 Post by JPJ » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:04 pm

"Chances are slim and none and slim just left town."(Rudy Ray Moore)

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#299 Post by swo17 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:12 pm

Actually, some people think they saw it in the blurry 2012 clue photo Criterion posted on Facebook last year, but only time will tell if they're right.

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#300 Post by nolanoe » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:28 pm

So in other words - no word at all. Or do we know Criterion is onto this one?
That's all I want to know, as I am unsure whether or not to buy the DirCut DVD which, really, looks abysmal judging from single frames.

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