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Narshty · #113 Post by **Narshty** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:08 pm

Wise Blood's on the way. Not The Dead, though, at least for now.

Narshty wrote:Since you've got UNDER THE VOLCANO, is there any chance Criterion might release WISE BLOOD too (it's a Universal title too as far as I know). Also, is there any news on Huston's last movie THE DEAD?

Tamara at Criterion wrote:I believe we do have plans to get to "Wise Blood" at some point in the future, but not "The Dead." I hope this helps, and thanks for your email!

Tommaso · #114 Post by **Tommaso** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:14 pm

Oh damn... how long must we stick with that Network disc...? Perhaps MoC could do it, considering that Network seem to dare to do their own version of "Vampyr" just when Nick announced MoC's. Only dreaming...

glaswegian tome · #115 Post by **glaswegian tome** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:13 pm

Wise Blood is a cool movie. I saw that recently for the first time. Glad to see Criterion will be putting it out.

Plus Brad Dourif is great in it.

stroszeck · #116 Post by **stroszeck** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:12 pm

Aw fuck me! I was hoping for The Dead. Wiseblood is only so so compared to that one, which is absolutely a masterpiece!

#117 Post by **Jeff** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:28 pm

I can confirm that Criterion has Malle's Les Amants (previously rumored to be acquired from New Yorker). Starz FilmCenter in Denver will be showing it this weekend, and Janus is credited as distributor.

souvenir · #118 Post by **souvenir** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:39 pm

On that note, I asked about Le Feu follet recently and was told nothing was on the current schedule, but to expect more Malle in 2008. Hopefully not too deep into 2008, since they own virtually all of his unreleased in R1 films and haven't put out any of the non-documentaries since April of last year.

Cinephrenic · #119 Post by **Cinephrenic** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:26 pm

2007 brought some new directors into the collection. Some big names as well as minor ones.

Allison Anders
Dent Lent
Kurt Voss
Robert Day
Spencer Gordon Bennet
Dudley Murphy
Saul J. Turrell
Oscar Micheaux
Kenneth Macpherson
Zoltan Korda
Thorton Freeland
Pen Tennyson
Leo Hurwitz
Paul Strand
Sidney Gilliat
Mikio Naruse
Mathieu Kassovitz
Stuart Cooper
Chris Marker
Claude Berri
Dusan Makavejev
Lindsay Anderson
Hiroshi Teshigahara
Billy Wilder
David Mamet
Carlos Saura
Bryon Haskin
Nathan Kroll
Terrence Malick
John Huston
Monte Hellman

Mental Mike · #120 Post by **Mental Mike** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:30 am

Criterion seems to love its Malle boxes...what box would we put together of what is left?

If The Fire Within is not in the works, my guess is that they could roll some of his American films into a box...I'm not crazy about his American films..I used to love Atlantic City but it seems overwritten on repeated viewings...Pretty Baby may be an interesting release, even though it was a snooze fest the first time I saw it...I have not seen My Dinner with Andre...

Cinephrenic · #121 Post by **Cinephrenic** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:48 am

I doubt we will see another box, but you bring up something interesting. Atlantic City and Pretty Baby are both Paramount owned. If they get a release at these, i'm interested in what they could do with them. But they already have a handful of Malle films still in need of release.

Tribe · #122 Post by **Tribe** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:01 pm

A Criterion Battleship Potemkin is not necessarily dead. I wrote Jonathan Turell and asked him if the Kino Potemkin release spelled the end of a Criterion release. He answered:

Jonathan Turell wrote:The whole Kino thing is a disappointment but we've gone back to Russia and have finally been able to access film elements. We're still hopeful but can't promise at this point. I hope that helps. We should know more after we take a longer look at this film.

When I ask him if I could post his response here he adds:

Jonathan Turell wrote:Feel free. We'd love to do an edition that we're proud of and my guess is that it'll probably happen.

Interesting response.

Tribe

denti alligator · #123 Post by **denti alligator** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:10 pm

Jonathan Turell wrote:my guess is that it'll probably happen

Amazing!! This is marvelous news!

Cinephrenic · #124 Post by **Cinephrenic** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:17 pm

Amazing!! This is marvelous news!

It will happen, but just a matter of when. Maybe another revolution will happen in Russia by that time.

Via_Chicago · #125 Post by **Via_Chicago** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:17 pm

denti alligator wrote:
Jonathan Turell wrote:my guess is that it'll probably happen
Amazing!! This is marvelous news!

I wish they'd go back and re-master Ivan and fix the sound issues on Nevsky first.

justeleblanc · #126 Post by **justeleblanc** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:41 pm

denti alligator wrote:
Jonathan Turell wrote:my guess is that it'll probably happen
Amazing!! This is marvelous news!

Sorry. but this is a total dick move by Turell. Their Eisenstein wont happen for another five years at the very least, and a message like this is meant to stunt Kino's sales. Criterion probably dragged their asses on these titles and Kino beat them to the punch. It's called competition and Criterion lost this battle. Sorry, had to vent. In this case, Turell is all talk.

colinr0380 · #127 Post by **colinr0380** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:44 pm

Cinephrenic wrote:It will happen, but just a matter of when. Maybe another revolution will happen in Russia by that time.

Which might be a very long time given the way the Russian mafioso Putin is running things at the moment! (Luckily I'm not planning to meet any Russians for lunch at a sushi restaurant in the near future!

But you know things are bad when you start wishing the drunkard was back in power in Russia and the sex crazed guy running America now that things have moved to the even bleaker realm of thugs and imbeciles!)

Tribe · #128 Post by **Tribe** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:49 pm

justeleblanc wrote:Sorry. but this is a total dick move by Turell. Their Eisenstein wont happen for another five years at the very least

I think you're being a little too harsh. What makes you say that? Not being polemical or anything...just curious regarding your reasoning.

Tribe

justeleblanc · #129 Post by **justeleblanc** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:30 pm

I'm pretty cynical, and I look at this as Criterion's way of being a dick to anyone who violates their space. Plus, my few contacts at criterion say they dragged their feet with the Eisensteins -- as they do with lots of titles. Kino pulled a fast one on Criterion and Turell is hoping he still will release it, as opposed to actually saying they will. It's like Chris Dodd saying he'll win Iowa.

This is all just interpretation, but it was meant to water the mouths of people like us, and I'm sure it did the trick.

ellipsis7 · #130 Post by **ellipsis7** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:34 pm

Based on the Tartan collection, apart from STRIKE, there appears to be very little sharp and close to original source material circulating, and apparently nothing new forthcoming from Russia... Presumably the CC figure holding back is losing sales and they may yet go forward with a compromise and compromised solution, or not...

Tribe · #131 Post by **Tribe** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:36 pm

Could it be possible they were waiting for different (or better elements)? There's been some discussion on the DVD Beaver list serv about there existing at least three versions presently...I can't recall if that discussion touched on any restorations or not though.

Tribe

souvenir · #132 Post by **souvenir** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:53 pm

The Kino Potemkin will be from a 2005 Restoration and will be shown on TCM Sunday Oct. 21. I saw a preview on TCM for the DVD and the new image was night and day better than the "before." Here's an article that discusses the restoration origins.

#133 Post by **Jeff** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:47 pm

justeleblanc wrote:Sorry. but this is a total dick move by Turell. Their Eisenstein wont happen for another five years at the very least, and a message like this is meant to stunt Kino's sales. Criterion probably dragged their asses on these titles and Kino beat them to the punch. It's called competition and Criterion lost this battle.

I can't see that at all. It's not like they posted this on the Criterion website. Somebody asked and Turell answered. It was a private email correspondence. They're not trumpeting their possible release or urging "Don't buy the Kino." Turrell's email seemed pretty honest and candid to me.

Luke M · #134 Post by **Luke M** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:54 pm

Criterion should use that release as a springboard for going into High Defintion. Licensing agreements may be for DVD only.

miless · #135 Post by **miless** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:35 pm

A lot of companies have learned their lesson from vhs when licensing now... a lot of companies now license films for any current or future formats to ensure they don't get screwed over. Criterion, however, probably gets stuff from big studios by exclusively licensing for DVD.

justeleblanc · #136 Post by **justeleblanc** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:35 am

Jeff wrote:
justeleblanc wrote:this is a total dick move by Turell. Their Eisenstein wont happen for another five years at the very least
It's not like they posted this on the Criterion website. Somebody asked and Turell answered. It was a private email correspondence. They're not trumpeting their possible release or urging "Don't buy the Kino." Turrell's email seemed pretty honest and candid to me.

Well, obviously they wouldn't say "Dont buy the Kino" but certainly, especially if Turell emailed you himself, it would seem like he still thinks theres a chance this would be released, even if it wasn't the case. And seriously, if the Kino print is as good as others say it is, why on the Earth would Criterion release something not in need of another release. Oh wait, they did that already.

#137 Post by **domino harvey** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:40 am

lol good one