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Memoria (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2021)

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:00 pm
by Ovader

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:47 pm
by Cremildo

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:23 pm
by senseabove
FilmComment is publishing a set diary from the set of Memoria, updated "every afternoon for the next week," including this amusing technical trivia: "The script comprises a much greater number of locations [than AW's previous films] as well as some unprecedentedly fancy toys, such as a 500-foot dolly, apparently the longest in Colombian film history, which I’m told required sourcing every dolly track available in the country."

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:25 am
by Petty Bourgeoisie
I'm worried this might be AW's My Blueberry Nights. I hope I'm wrong.

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:11 am
by zedz
Petty Bourgeoisie wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:25 am I'm worried this might be AW's My Blueberry Nights. I hope I'm wrong.
I'm worried it might be his The Adventure of Iron Pussy. Oh, wait a minute. . .

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:14 am
by knives
Honestly that's the only film of his I haven't seen in interested in because it sounds so different from the rest of his films.

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:00 am
by zedz
It's nowhere near being good, but it's certainly an interesting curio. If you didn't know, you'd never guess it's the same director.

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:24 pm
by Never Cursed
Memoria to get an absurd touring, theaters-only release strategy - bizarrely, it seems that, at least for now, the plan is for the film to not receive streaming or home video releases

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:32 pm
by swo17
Never Cursed wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:24 pm Memoria to get an absurd touring, theaters-only release strategy - bizarrely, it seems that, at least for now, the plan is for the film to not receive streaming or home video releases
That sounds kinda cool actually, not in general but for this specific film

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:44 pm
by Ribs
It’s also a weird choice given the film is being released in a dozen territories by MUBI and has plenty of other distributors around the world that can do whatever they want with the movie. It also seems disingenuous to frame it as “this way, everyone sees the movie the way it was meant to be seen” because this same distributor booked the movie for virtual Toronto just two weeks ago.

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:46 pm
by Never Cursed
I wouldn't mind the touring strategy on its own, but that they won't release it on home video makes it completely inaccessible to anyone outside of a city here with a reasonable arthouse presence. That strikes me as almost regressive - I don't know why anyone would want a return to the more stratified distribution of the pre-home video era when we have the technology to make the films available everywhere

And to add on to Ribs' point, it's not like this film won't be stamped onto US DVDs - it's Colombia's Foreign Language submission, so plenty of Academy voters are going to be able to watch it at home

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:59 pm
by swo17
Presumably this film is about the preciousness of one-time experiences? In any case, if one of those other distributors puts out a home video release, problem solved.

I'm curious if zedz, who I believe has seen the film, thinks this is a fitting strategy or a corny gimmick

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:32 pm
by The Fanciful Norwegian
Ribs wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:44 pm It’s also a weird choice given the film is being released in a dozen territories by MUBI and has plenty of other distributors around the world that can do whatever they want with the movie. It also seems disingenuous to frame it as “this way, everyone sees the movie the way it was meant to be seen” because this same distributor booked the movie for virtual Toronto just two weeks ago.
I totally agree but was it actually available virtually through TIFF? I can only find in-person screenings listed, it doesn't look like it was even available on their industry-only streaming platform.

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:43 pm
by Pavel
I also agree but it definitely wasn't available virtually at TIFF. Also Columbia submitting an Apichatpong film for the Oscars is pretty epic

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:43 pm
by Ribs
It was available to the press in Canada geolocked digitally. It was not made available widely w the full press corps, but plenty of movies opted out of that.

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:49 pm
by soundchaser
swo17 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:59 pm Presumably this film is about the preciousness of one-time experiences? In any case, if one of those other distributors puts out a home video release, problem solved.

I'm curious if zedz, who I believe has seen the film, thinks this is a fitting strategy or a corny gimmick
I haven't seen the film, but a fairly easy counter is that all experiences are one-time experiences by virtue of the time/place/headspace in which you experience them.

In any case, I look forward to inevitably pirating this when it comes nowhere within a hundred miles of me.

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:51 pm
by Oedipax
Pretty lame - I wouldn’t notice/care much about the city by city touring aspect (fine, whatever) but to forgo a physical release? Thank goodness there’ll inevitably be an international distributor with more sense.

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:52 pm
by swo17
soundchaser wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:49 pm
swo17 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:59 pm Presumably this film is about the preciousness of one-time experiences? In any case, if one of those other distributors puts out a home video release, problem solved.

I'm curious if zedz, who I believe has seen the film, thinks this is a fitting strategy or a corny gimmick
I haven't seen the film, but a fairly easy counter is that all experiences are one-time experiences by virtue of the time/place/headspace in which you experience them.

In any case, I look forward to inevitably pirating this when it comes nowhere within a hundred miles of me.
A film's scarcity can add to its mystique, even if the more resourceful among us can find other ways to experience it

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:58 pm
by soundchaser
swo17 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:52 pmA film's scarcity can add to its mystique, even if the more resourceful among us can find other ways to experience it
I don't necessarily disagree (and I know arguments have been made along those lines on this board before), but I'll take accessibility over mystique any day. Unless there's something special about the form of the film that *requires* a roadshow experience? But based on its screenings so far I think that would be a tough justification.

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:08 pm
by Never Cursed
No one should *have* to pirate a film or import a potentially region unfriendly copy of a film to watch it. I'm not saying the film needs to open in 4000 theaters or be distributed for free or anything, but why should its scarcity be praised when it is demonstrably completely artificial?

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:17 pm
by domino harvey
Never Cursed wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:24 pm Memoria to get an absurd touring, theaters-only release strategy - bizarrely, it seems that, at least for now, the plan is for the film to not receive streaming or home video releases
Generally speaking, anyone following Crispin Glover’s theatrical distribution model would do well to reconsider

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:46 pm
by zedz
swo17 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:59 pm Presumably this film is about the preciousness of one-time experiences? In any case, if one of those other distributors puts out a home video release, problem solved.

I'm curious if zedz, who I believe has seen the film, thinks this is a fitting strategy or a corny gimmick
It's a great film, but I'm not sure there's anything about it that sets it apart from other Weerasethakul films that would make this strategy especially appropriate. It's a rather quiet and intimate film, with a lot of key scenes taking place indoors (e.g. in a sound studio), and the climax of the film is a long conversation between two characters by the side of a river. I saw it at home and it was completely captivating in that context.

Obvious reasons for preferring to see it in a cinema: the money shot at the end that 'resolves' the film's central riddle (kinda), and the sound design. It's not really a spoiler to reveal that the film is about Tilda Swinton being haunted by a weird, intrusive noise, and it's highly likely that this noise is even weirder and more jarring in a properly equipped cinema. Maybe it's a Melancholia situation where the film has a completely different impact in a cinema with great sound because of this and I'm in blissful ignorance.

Oh, and swo: that's not what the "memoria" of the title relates to. It's more anthropological than psychological.

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:49 pm
by swo17
Never Cursed wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:08 pm No one should *have* to pirate a film or import a potentially region unfriendly copy of a film to watch it. I'm not saying the film needs to open in 4000 theaters or be distributed for free or anything, but why should its scarcity be praised when it is demonstrably completely artificial?
You guys only listen to the mixed down version of Zaireeka, don't you?

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:21 pm
by Never Cursed
The inaccessibility of that album is completely different to and a far less literal inaccessibility than that being forced upon Memoria by Neon, that is not a fair comparison

Re: Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:32 pm
by knives
soundchaser wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:49 pm
swo17 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:59 pm Presumably this film is about the preciousness of one-time experiences? In any case, if one of those other distributors puts out a home video release, problem solved.

I'm curious if zedz, who I believe has seen the film, thinks this is a fitting strategy or a corny gimmick
I haven't seen the film, but a fairly easy counter is that all experiences are one-time experiences by virtue of the time/place/headspace in which you experience them.

In any case, I look forward to inevitably pirating this when it comes nowhere within a hundred miles of me.
WKW was right?