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The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:17 pm
by mfunk9786
Aronofsky's next film will be an adaptation of Samuel D. Hunter's play
The Whale for A24.
The New York premiere of The Whale played at Playwrights Horizons in 2012.
On the outskirts of Mormon Country, Idaho, a six-hundred pound recluse (Mr. Hensley) hides away in his apartment eating himself to death. Desperate to reconnect with his long-estranged daughter, he reaches out to her, only to find a viciously sharp-tongued and wildly unhappy teen. Big-hearted and fiercely funny, The Whale tells the story of a man's last chance at redemption, and of finding beauty in the most unexpected places.
Writing in The Denver Post on the World Premiere of The Whale at Denver Center Theatre in January, Ray Mark Rinaldi called it, "A rich night of theater. Very much a play of today and audiences ready to engage the times should understand its rewards."
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:28 pm
by mfunk9786
Brendan Fraser(!!) to star
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:46 pm
by knives
Sounds a bit Wrestler-y. Either way sign me up for more Aronofsky who has matured into a really great filmmaker.
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:48 pm
by domino harvey
mfunk9786 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:28 pm
Brendan Fraser(!!) to star
He has an unusual amount of good will in recent years that has yet to materialize into any awards prospects, but I could see him turning a juicy part like this into an Oscar nom
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:36 pm
by Magic Hate Ball
Can we not with the fat suits?
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:49 am
by mfunk9786
Will need to get with some casting people but I'm not sure that 600 lb actors who can presumably (though I don't know the full narrative here) drop weight as shooting goes on is particularly long
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:23 am
by Magic Hate Ball
...and? That's not much of an excuse. Also, there's no transformation in the play, it's kind of like one of those "fattest person alive" misery porn tv specials but with a plot about mormons and Moby Dick.
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:25 am
by domino harvey
It is literally the best "excuse," not that there needs to be one
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:27 am
by Magic Hate Ball
"We couldn't find a real disabled person for our exploitation film, so..." just feels like a very outdated approach.
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:29 am
by domino harvey
Being fat is a not a protected class
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:33 am
by Magic Hate Ball
Frankly, given the widespread and well-documented discrimination fat people face, it should be, and in the case of The Whale, the main character is literally disabled.
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:43 am
by knives
I believe Sir Laurence Olivier said it best when calling it acting because you act. Not every film needs to be Stromboli casting fishermen to play fishermen.
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:08 am
by therewillbeblus
knives wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:43 am
I believe Sir Laurence Olivier said it best when calling it acting because you act. Not every film needs to be Stromboli casting fishermen to play fishermen.
And then
Bill Burr said it even better
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:52 am
by RitrovataBlue
Fat suits will most likely one day be looked at the way brownface is today. Being fat isn't anything like being locked in a panic-stricken nightmare, and that's Aronofsky's trademark. I run hot and cold on Aronofsky (Requiem and Pi are excellent; The Wrestler and Black Swan were fine; Mother! was downright insulting), but this sounds utterly abysmal.
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:11 am
by Brian C
I seriously doubt fat suits will be looked at the same way as blackface; at any rate, as a fat dude, I’ll try as hard as I can to stop it from happening.
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:16 am
by therewillbeblus
RitrovataBlue wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:52 amI run hot and cold on Aronofsky (Requiem and Pi are excellent; The Wrestler and Black Swan were fine; Mother! was downright insulting), but this sounds utterly abysmal.
I’m mostly cold on him but would say conversely that
mother! is excellent and
Requiem is “downright insulting” to the marginalized population
its exploiting
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:45 am
by flyonthewall2983
Put me down for this sounding terrible. I could see this being so bad it being deemed un-releasable by A24, and it going to a distributor even further down the food chain or not put out at all.
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:44 pm
by aox
I didn't even know the human body could exceed 500, let alone 600, pounds. So, I got that out of this movie already.
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:24 pm
by mfunk9786
flyonthewall2983 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:45 am
Put me down for this sounding terrible. I could see this being so bad it being deemed un-releasable by A24, and it going to a distributor even further down the food chain or not put out at all.
Aronofsky has done this kind of story before with
The Wrestler to, arguably, the greatest acclaim and success of his career, and the play it's based on was also widely acclaimed. So it's hard to say why this would sound terrible to just about anyone, unless they reject the premise of depicting obesity onscreen? Didn't care for
any of Aronofsky's work/think he's altogether incapable of making a good film?
RitrovataBlue wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:52 am
Being fat isn't anything like being locked in a panic-stricken nightmare
Speak for yourself!
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:36 pm
by dwk
aox wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:44 pm
I didn't even know the human body could exceed 500, let alone 600, pounds. So, I got that out of this movie already.
I guess you haven't seen many ads for TLC's crap "reality" shows. Consider yourself lucky.
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:04 pm
by Brian C
I remember a story in my 4th-grade Weekly Reader about a dude who, if memory serves, weighed about 1,000 pounds and had decided to diet. It was the second story on the front page - the lead story was about all the candidates in the 1988 presidential primaries.
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:47 pm
by mfunk9786
From the looks of some recent photos, it looks like Fraser is indeed gaining the weight to play this role. Perhaps they're shooting in reverse order or something?

Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:03 pm
by therewillbeblus
Hasn't Fraser been a bit heavier-set for a while now though? Maybe not to that degree, but I seem to recall seeing him in photos prior to his casting announcement and recognizing a substantial gain
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:08 am
by hearthesilence
therewillbeblus wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:03 pm
Hasn't Fraser been a bit heavier-set for a while now though? Maybe not to that degree, but I seem to recall seeing him in photos prior to his casting announcement and recognizing a substantial gain
This sounds like an actual
Simpsons joke, where it's assumed an actor just gained weight for a role and out of shame he pretends that's the case, but I can't remember which episode.
Re: The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, 2022)
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:45 am
by deathbird
aox wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:44 pm
I didn't even know the human body could exceed 500, let alone 600, pounds. So, I got that out of this movie already.
You must not be old enough to remember all the great pics in the Guinness Book of World Records in the 1970s:
It was glorious time to be alive