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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:29 pm
by What A Disgrace
FSimeoni wrote:Sock Corridor and Naked Kiss have both been released by Metrodome.
That they have, and maybe I'm not clear on UK copyright laws, but aren't those films both in public domain? Apologies if I misunderstand the situation.

Also: "Sock Corridor" reads less like a typographical error and more like Fate.

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:56 pm
by Awesome Welles
What A Disgrace wrote:UK copyright laws, but aren't those films both in public domain? Apologies if I misunderstand the situation.

Also: "Sock Corridor" reads less like a typographical error and more like Fate.
UK Copyright law was discussed in some detail here.

Sock Corridor; one my better typos!

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:07 pm
by starmanof51
FSimeoni wrote:Sock Corridor; one my better typos!
I hope you do something with it, because I'm now really interested in seeing a movie called Sock Corridor.

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:33 pm
by otis

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:32 pm
by zedz
starmanof51 wrote:
FSimeoni wrote:Sock Corridor; one my better typos!
I hope you do something with it, because I'm now really interested in seeing a movie called Sock Corridor.
I can already see it: a cross between key scenes in Polanski's Repulsion and Svankmajer's Alice (Catherine Deneuve molested by sock puppets burrowing through the walls).

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:15 pm
by MichaelB
What A Disgrace wrote:That they have, and maybe I'm not clear on UK copyright laws, but aren't those films both in public domain?
In a word, no.

As a general rule, if the film is less than 70 years old and/or made by someone who died less than 70 years ago, it won't be in the public domain in Britain (or the EU) - so in practice it's very very rare indeed for a film made after 1937 to be genuinely public-domain according to current EU legislation.

There are a few exemptions to do with Crown Copyright and government-sponsored films, but this certainly won't apply in this case.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:24 pm
by Awesome Welles
I was just looking for Pontecorvo's Burn and happened to notice that The Battle of Algiers seems to have gone out of print (or am I wrong)? It certainly fits with P and 1965, still hoping for Limite though.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:58 pm
by 0ptim0reel
Is it possible the MoC could release Masahiro Shinoda's "Yashagaike" aka "Demon Pond"? It's my favorite film of his, and they've released a few of his before...

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:17 am
by fiddlesticks
Tommaso wrote:On the other hand, if No. 50 is "Vampyr", No. 49 might be another Dreyer. Can we please have the new resto of "Die Gezeichneten"?!
I see that Vampyr has been renumbered to #25. I don't know what, if anything, this portends, but I thought I'd mention it.

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:34 pm
by 0ptim0reel
fiddlesticks wrote:
Tommaso wrote:On the other hand, if No. 50 is "Vampyr", No. 49 might be another Dreyer. Can we please have the new resto of "Die Gezeichneten"?!
I see that Vampyr has been renumbered to #25. I don't know what, if anything, this portends, but I thought I'd mention it.
If you go to wikipedia and look up the list of MoC releases, they have "The Blue Angel" listed at 25. Do they know something we don't?

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:34 pm
by Awesome Welles
The Blue Angel was once slated to be release #25 though I don't know what it's status is now or why Vampyr has been moved. I can only assume that The Blue Angel has been put on the back burner and MoC want to fill up all past catalogue nos to concentrate on the future. This would make sense in terms of the website (new release at the top rather than embedded). Either that or #50 is another Watkins or Visconti :wink:

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:18 pm
by What A Disgrace
FSimeoni wrote:The Blue Angel was once slated to be release #25 though I don't know what it's status is now or why Vampyr has been moved. I can only assume that The Blue Angel has been put on the back burner and MoC want to fill up all past catalogue nos to concentrate on the future. This would make sense in terms of the website (new release at the top rather than embedded). Either that or #50 is another Watkins or Visconti
Maybe 49 is now The Blue Angel, and 50 could be Saga of Anatahan?

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:45 pm
by Scharphedin2
What A Disgrace wrote:
FSimeoni wrote:
knepo wrote:I was wondering what movies that will be on spine 49 and 60?
They are both unannounced as yet, though I suspect that #49 will be another Visconti (Le Notti Bianche or Sandra - I hoping the latter).
My bet's on Sandra...when MoC bunches a director's films up, they typically do so in chronological order of those releases. Since Rocco was 48, if this rule holds true, number 49 will be a post-Rocco film.

All the better for it. I don't like Notti Bianche.
Furthermore, 1957 is not on Peerpee's "awful teaser" list, so Notti Bianche is ruled out. 1965 is on the list, but Sandra would almost be too good to be true.

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:54 pm
by Awesome Welles
Exactly. I actually posted that before Nick wrote his awful teaser so I am also more than convinced it will be Sandra.

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:08 am
by Tommaso
What A Disgrace wrote:Maybe 49 is now The Blue Angel, and 50 could be Saga of Anatahan?
That would be among the greatest things to happen ("Anatahan", I mean), but I'd thought that these round numbers like 50 or 100 would go to the greatest highlights in the collection. I'd assume "Der blaue Engel" is moved to 40 (would fit ideally after "Tagebuch einer Verlorenen"), and 50 now will be "Nibelungen".

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:35 am
by PimpPanda
I would love for Saga of Anatahan to get a DVD release and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it got one soon. It was recently restored and I was lucky enough to see it at the Cinematheque here a few weeks ago. The print was in great condition.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:08 am
by SamSanchez
Assuming Johnny To would qualify as a director that is already part of the collection, it would be nice if 'T' + '1998' = Johnny To's A Hero Never Dies

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:20 am
by HerrSchreck
FSimeoni wrote:I was just looking for Pontecorvo's Burn and happened to notice that The Battle of Algiers seems to have gone out of print (or am I wrong)? It certainly fits with P and 1965, still hoping for Limite though.
I would need to be hospitalized for Incipient Joy if Peixoto's Limite came from MoC or CC.. or anybody decent for that matter. I'm tired of weeping with ecstacy over my cruddo copy... (god that score...)

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:06 am
by Tommaso
HerrSchreck wrote:I would need to be hospitalized for Incipient Joy if Peixoto's Limite came from MoC or CC.. or anybody decent for that matter. I'm tired of weeping with ecstacy over my cruddo copy... (god that score...)
Don't know which version you've seen, but some brief comments on the new resto of "Limite", as shown in Cannes last year and on arte TV a few weeks ago. The print is still in pretty bad condition, with one sequence missing entirely and some others having the worst instances of nitrate decomposition I think I ever saw. The rest is badly battered, too. If the film had lain around unhelped for some more years I'd say it would have been forever lost, at least parts of it. As to the music: this new resto follows the original plans as laid out by Peixoto, i.e. classical music by Debussy, Ravel, Satie and others. For the soundtrack, they tried to get recordings from the time, by Koussevitsky and others, so the sound is naturally 'bad' for the most part, but it fits the images completely.
A truly magnificent film clearly deserving to be released by MoC, but I'd say it would require a lot of courage for them to release it in the state it is and will forever be in, probably. Kino seems a more likely candidate, it would be a real highlight of an "Avantgarde Vol.3" set, for example.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:36 am
by HerrSchreck
Thats probably the one I have. I'm pretty familiar with the state of the film, the missing few feet, and the decomp section (Lyrical Nitrate will introduce you to Jackson Pollack style decomp far in advance of this). I'm just looking for hi def telecine without the chroma I saw. And contextual material as well.

And yes the original music is sublime-- my copy has all of it.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:25 pm
by Awesome Welles
And you know if MoC released this the book(let) would be amazing.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:52 pm
by Tommaso
Absolutely true, I'd love to read a little bit more on that film (though the wikipedia entry is surprisingly comprehensive). But if I remember Nick's doubts about releasing "Vampyr" (which looks absolutely pristine compared to "Limite"), it probably needs even more effort at convincing him on our part. But at least he wouldn't have to fear a rival edition: this is the stuff that CC wouldn't even touch with a bargepole, considering the print condition.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:46 pm
by domino harvey
Peerpee, can you throw us a bone and reveal one of these mysterious titles? Pretty please?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:21 pm
by Awesome Welles
On Peixoto thisarticle is a good intro. Plus there is this website which I have not read. The snippets of music on the latter's site are indeed sublime. It makes me want to see the film even more. I am not aware of anything else that could be considered for on disc supplements, I imagine that there is more than a documentary or two out there, Peixoto seemed to have such an interesting life I find it hard to believe no one would have covered it.

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:02 am
by Sanjuro
Are we still playing this game or has everyone given up? Well, I'm free all morning so...

T + 1974 = Shuji Terayama's Den-en ni shisu. Because more Japanese new wave can only be a good thing.

M + 1989 = Kira Muratova's Asthenic Syndrome. Looks wild enough for a blind-buy.

G + 1974 = Ritwik Ghatak's Jukti, Takko Aar Gappo. Saw a nice new print of this recently, if MOC could manage some decent subtitles it would be very nice (unless BFI have more Ghatak planned?)

G + 1997 + 1998 = Histoire Du Cinema. Does anyone really believe the AE version is coming soon?

V + 2004 = erm...Starship Troopers...?