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#776 Post by feihong »

swo17 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:41 am I'm curious about the relationship, if any, between Corey Yuen and the Yuen Clan (Yuen Woo-ping along with several of his siblings). I understand that Corey was a member of the Seven Little Fortunes, many of which were given the name Yuen. Is the shared name simply a coincidence? They worked on numerous films together, for instance, as stunt coordinators on both Drunken Master and Snake in the Eagle's Shadow
The Seven Little Fortunes' sifu was Yu Jim-Yuen, who is the namesake of Cory Yuen, Yuen Tak, Yuen Bun, Yuen Wah, Yuen Mo, Yuen Qiu, and Yuen Biao. He wasn't related to the Yuen clan, though, just to make things complicated, apparently Yuen Wo-Ping DID attend Yu Jim-Yuen's training program for just one day as a kid.

The Yuen clan and the members of the Seven Little Fortunes frequently worked together, starting, I think, at Golden Harvest in the 70s. There are several choreographers amongst the Seven Little Fortunes––Sammo, Jackie, and Cory of course, but also Yuen Tak choreographs The Blade, and Yuen Bun choreographs the later Once Upon a Time in China movies, I believe. I never get the sense that they look at one another as competitors, even though they were often competing for the same jobs. But they appear so often in one another's movies that it doesn't seem as if there is any resentment between them.
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#777 Post by andyli »

Right, just a coincidence, since one sound in China usually represents multiple unrelated characters. Yuen Woo-ping's Yuen is 袁 in Chinese, whereas Corey Yuen's is 元, another Chinese character. Both could serve as surnames though.
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#778 Post by swo17 »

Thanks for the info!
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#779 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian »

feihong wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:01 am Every once in a while, I get a kind of shiver passing through my body which reminds me that it's been now 7+ years since the planned release of Xu Haofeng's The Hidden Sword, and the film is still, sadly, MIA. I don't know of a more "missing" movie offhand, except maybe for The Day the Clown Cried.
There's a bunch from China alone:
  • Just from the same year, The Conformist—Cai Shangjun's followup to People Mountain People Sea, which won the screenplay prize at Venice—played at Shanghai and TIFF but hasn't been seen since for unknown reasons. Star Huang Bo was probably the most popular actor in the country at the time, so a lack of distributor interest is vanishingly unlikely.
  • Zhao Wei's second directorial outing No Other Love was shot in in 2016 but never came out due to political issues around actors Leon Dai (whose cameo in The Final Master has been deleted from the version currently distributed in China) and Mizuhara Kiko.
  • Ye Jing's autobiographical Cultural Revolution drama Songs of the Youth 1969 hasn't been outside of a few "VIP screenings" in 2015–16—supposedly not because of its sensitive topic, but rather because Ye was dissatisfied with every cut under four hours (even after giving Tian Zhuangzhuang a crack at it) and finally ran out of money to continue post-production. But the unnerving making-of doc In Character is readily accessible, and to give a further idea of what a perverse figure Ye Jing is, he went on to film a sequel in 2019 that also remains unreleased.
  • Zhang Meng's Uncle Victory disappeared after a couple of 2014 festival screenings thanks to star Huang Haibo's arrest and conviction for solicitation.
  • Wu Ziniu's The Dove Tree (1985) was shelved during post-production for its treatment of the Sino-Vietnamese War; legend has it that Deng Xiaoping personally viewed the rough cut and sarcastically remarked that the studio could recoup its investment by selling it to Vietnam. Another film on the same subject, Zhou Xiaowen's 1986 debut In Their Prime, was also shelved but somehow leaked online a few years ago.
  • Probably the most famous example is Sun and Man, which was made in 1981 and is the last film to date subjected to a public denunciation campaign. The script was subsequently filmed in Taiwan as Portrait of a Fanatic, albeit with alterations by Wu Nien-jen among others.
  • But the funniest example has to be the version of The Three-Body Problem that was filmed in 2015—some no-name filmmaker acquired the rights before the novel really blew up and insisted on directing it himself, despite lucrative offers to take it off his hands and a complete lack of experience with effects-heavy production. The result was allegedly so inept as to be unsalvageable, even after passing through multiple SFX firms.
Sad, too, that the film seems to feature what is most likely one of Chen Kuan-Tai's very last performances, and he looks as if he has a significant, serious role, that we're being denied for reasons that seem like they haven't been applied to any other comparable films in recent years.
This is why I'm more inclined at this point to believe the rumors of a dispute among the film's investors than the rumors of a censorship issue.
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#780 Post by hanshotfirst1138 »

So apparently Shout Factor have acquired hundreds of titles from the Golden Princess Library, including the big John Woo classics. Potentially super-exciting news!
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I went ahead and ordered the German blu ray of 100 Yards the other day, after receiving the WellGo disc. The reason is that I have for a few months now had a blu ray of the film I found on ebay, with Chinese subtitles on the picture that seem forced, and with the SARFT logo on the front of the picture. I watched the WellGo disc and was a little bothered by it. Closeups looked preeeeetty good, but long shots looked soft. The picture looked a little flat on the WellGo disc. So I put in my Chinese-language only disc (there isn't even any English on the box save for the title in both languages) for contrast. BOOM. The picture quality on the version I got off of ebay looks f*cking immaculate. Ultra-sharp, crisp picture, depth-of-field that legitimately makes the home video experience seem bigger, more expansive. Clean color separation, depth and sharpness on the long shots, but more detail in the closeups as well. I don't think the WellGo disc looks unacceptable, I suppose––and it is the only one available with English subtitles (the German version apparently lists them but doesn't actually have them)––but it looks to me like some level of noise reduction has been applied to the English-language-friendly disc––there are a few traveling shots that move from long shot or medium shot into closeup, and I thought I could see the level of detail altering, the pixels swimming before locking into place. Backlighting makes some images indistinct, especially during the fight at the wharf (in my other disc, you see the light leak, but it doesn't overwhelm the image). In a film with such stylized cinematography, which deals more heavily than a Johnnie To movie in depth-of-field as part of the shots, it's a bit of a disappointment.

I wondered if the disc I had from ebay might be the same source as the German disc, so I ordered that one to check. When I have the three different versions, I hope to do a little comparison of them, and hopefully I'll find out whether the Chinese subtitles are forced or burnt-in on what is so far the nicest version (they look forced, they don't have the look of being integrated into the picture, but it's all so sharp and clean a picture that it's hard to tell).

Now I'm curious about the UK edition of The Final Master, from Cult Films. The US version, also from WellGo, had a mildly disappointing look to it, which sharp picture quality and enhanced depth-of-field would probably help to counteract.

EDIT: Reviewing it, the WellGo disc of The Final Master looks very, very good. Certainly better than the 100 Yards disc. So maybe I'll leave that one be.
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Holy cow. The German disc of 100 Yards looks just like the WellGo disc. There is clear noise reduction––you can see in all the copious panning and tracking shots how the image gets sharper when it stabilizes, and almost goes out of focus when the camera starts moving––when the image has elements moving faster than others, they tend to ghost a little. Long shots are soft unless they are locked-off. Just like on the WellGo disc, the image is adequate, but...when the film can look as good as a Hollywood production, and it doesn't because they DNR'ed it, making it look softer and more wavery and washed-out than it has to be....

The depth of field, the sharpness of the image...the possibly-Chinese disc I have with the SARFT logo before the film looks significantly better than either the German or the WellGo disc. Even the closeups look sharper and more detailed. Fight scenes look crisper and more dynamic, motion looks more demonstrative and film-like. I have yet to determine if the Chinese-only subtitles are forced or burned-in, but they look forced to me.

Gaaaaaahhhh. Why do this, and to a great film? So frustrating.

Well, the WellGo is the only option with English subtitles, and I recommend the film so much so that the quality of the disc can be forgiven, but it irks me no end that it could be more. Isn't this film shot on digital anyways? What's the rationale for even trying to reduce the noise on the picture in that case?
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WellGoUSA are frustratingly inconsistent. I have the 100 Yards BD too and thought this should be sharper looking for a contemporary film. It hasn't been certified by the BBFC for UK release as far as I can tell though KungFuCinema are saying they held the UK premiere on February 7th. I can't find info on who the distributor is. I looked up CineAsia and they're not listing it.
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#784 Post by feihong »

Looks like Cargo, the myterious distributor from Germany, is releasing the exceptional Moon Lee/Yukari Oshima/Sibelle Hu action movie Dreaming the Reality on blu ray this month.

This is one of better Moon/Yukari team-ups, with a genuinely more interesting premise and more complicated plot than most, and some very good action. I've always really liked it––there's a harsh tone and some cleverness to Moon Lee's hitman-with-amnesia which makes things interesting. This is also one of the movies Sibelle Hu did following getting badly burned during an explosion-gone-wrong at the end of Devil Hunters––they literally just stop the film when the explosion happens and put a card on-screen saying they couldn't quite finish the movie after it happened. She is a much more unrestrained actress afterwards, and in this film more than any others, you can see some of the burn damage. I don't know why that's important, but it's intriguing, and Sibelle's broad, load performance here is really fun. Eddie Ko is also wonderful as the villain/daddy character.
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#785 Post by Mr Sausage »

Sibelle Hu's swagger adds so much charm to the movie, doesn't it? I'm glad it's getting a decent release. It's pretty wild, what with something like three completely different plots crammed awkwardly together, the tonal swings between family melodrama, cruel thriller, and fantasy, the outright feminism in its story of sisterhood and revenge on the patriarchy, and just the anarchy of everything. When it comes to Moon Lee films, I prefer The Kickboxer's Tears in terms of pure action (that ending cross-cut between three separate fights!), but Dreaming the Reality is maybe the battiest and most memorable.
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Sibelle is really fun in this and in Crystal Hunt, especially––though I think she is pretty great value in most movies from Devil Hunters onwards. Before that, she was thought of as a clone of the young Brigitte Lin, and was mostly tasked with looking pretty––though The Inspector Wears Skirts was an early indication she wanted to get outdoors and run around. Of all the actresses in these movies with no martial arts training, like Carrie Ng and a lot of others, she is the one who really goes for it in the fight scenes the most, and is––of those untrained actors––doubled the least. Her career sort of fizzled as these cheapies made for the export market also faded away, and she married a businessman––who recently ended up getting convicted for white-collar crime, or something. Last I read she was pondering a return to the working world, whatever that would mean.

Honestly, I have trouble distinguishing many of these movies of this type too finely; I love Kickboxer's Tears, Dreaming the Reality, Angel, Beauty Investigator, Devil Hunters, Angel Terminators 2, Crystal Hunt, Mission of Justice, Killer Angels, Yes Madam '92: A Serious Shock, The Big Deal, Outlaw Brothers, and even Princess Madam almost equally. Definitely some of them stick more in the memory, and Kickboxer's Tears and Dreaming the Reality are some of the more distinctive ones. There's definitely a lower tier for things like Angel's Project, Secret Police, Angel Force, The Nocturnal Demon, Fatal Termination, New Kids in Town, the Angel sequels, and The Inspector Wears Skirts IV.

I think I know where this release of Dreaming the Reality was sourced from, and if it is what I think it is, this might be a really special disc. The release is 11 days away, gonna be crossing my fingers nothing gets in the way of getting a copy.
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#787 Post by Mr Sausage »

The Iron Angels films got worse and worse as films (who exactly wants more Alex Fong?), but the action scenes just got better and better. The jungle climax of II is magnificent, and has a Moon Lee fight scene I go back to frequently. III gives Moon an incredible mansion fight where she even uses nunchuks, and then that jetpack battle that ought to be the dumbest thing ever but somehow works. They’re the kind of films you watch in full once and then just revisit your favourite scenes from then on out. But I’d watch the first one again easily.

Marrying a tycoon and quitting young was the route of most HK starlets it seems. Only Michelle Yeoh seemed to divorce hers and come back. If The Stunt Woman is anything to go by, domesticity didn’t much suit her.
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#788 Post by feihong »

Moon Lee's trajectory was different than the norm, I think. She married a dentist and moved to Colorado. She has done a lot of dance performance and dance teaching. It always seemed so down-to-earth to me. But she was never quite the glamour-queen some of these other actresses could present as, and she had other serious interests in the performing arts. Ten years ago she kept up a very active blog, which chronicled her life and what looks like some great vacations.

I do enjoy that jetpack scene in Angel III. Stanley Tong was brought on to help direct action on Angel II & III, which could partly account for the bigger action spectacle of the sequels. Ivan Lai, director of the later Blue Jean Monster, served that role on the first movie, and that could account for the first film's more often intimate fight scenes and its more obvious emphasis on particular moves and the gory pain they cause. It is bizarre how much Alex Fong the filmmakers thought we wanted. I thought we had just about exactly enough of him in the first Angel. I'd rather have had more David Chiang in the sequels if they were going to leverage one of the male cast members like that––or I would've been happy for them to replace Elaine Lui with Yukari Oshima as Moon's partner for the sequels. Bottom line for me: the series should have stayed about the women fighting crime together.
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Comrades: Almost a Love Story (Peter Chan, 1996)

Follows a pair of mainland immigrants to Hong Kong from 1986 to 1993, through hard scrabble living, economic booms and busts, and a loud, vulgar city. As much a portrait of a city and a culture as it is an (almost) romance. The movie has a gentleness and quietude unexpected in an HK melodrama. There’s also a maturity that tempers the whimsical rom-com aspects. Plus Maggie Cheung’s beautiful underplaying (she’s the main reason to see the movie!). My biggest complaint would be the score, which is too saccharine, often lending the wrong tone to moments meant to show how materialism and economic realities have an outsize effect on happiness and relationships. There’s the occasional spot of banality, a slow dissolve or a character standing still in a busy intersection, but the film often avoids cheap effects—at least in the first half. The movie’s better at small moments and naturalistic details. When it tries for larger effects and grand moments, it becomes shopworn. Perhaps that’s why the first half is better than the second: romance mixes with economic realities and practical necessities in the first hour. By the second hour, economics have slid into the background, so the romance becomes untethered and therefore sentimental. Melodramatic conventions like love triangles and gangsters replace naturalism. When Maggie Cheung says to Leon Lai, “You aren’t why I came to Hong Kong, and I’m not why you came.”, you believe it. Less so when she collapses into her gangster sugardaddy's arms and sails off. Anyway, Maggie Cheung does more to convey romance with her pensive gaze than all this film’s skyward pullbacks and slow shots in the rain combined. So a strong first half and a weak second half. I see why this is on so many best-of lists, and it is a subtler and more adult film than Hong Kong usually produced, something more like a Hollywood prestige drama (something of a motif in the film, especially with Irene Tsu’s obsession with William Holden). I think if the whole thing had been more like the first half, it would’ve been a favourite instead of an enjoyable but somewhat frustrating movie. It made me appreciate Ann Hui’s steadier hand.


An Autumn’s Tale (Mabel Cheung, 1987)

A skillfully done rom com, heavy on charm and narrative energy, but otherwise conventional. It think what I liked most was its unflattering portrait of pre-gentrification New York as seen through an outsider’s eyes. There’s something peculiarly Hong Kong in making a romantic movie that not only doesn’t glamourize its setting, but feels at home in the dirt and grime. Everything feels cramped and run down, yet there’s a certain beauty to the images, too. This is a love story with no upward mobility. Instead home and comfort are found within the gritty surroundings. A couples dinner doesn’t need a fancy restaurant, it can happen in a cramped apartment with bad food and a baseball glove for an oven mitt. There isn’t the same interest in economic realities as Comrades: Almost a Love Story despite the shared tale of love-struck immigrants attempting to make their way in a big city. Cherie Chung and Chow Yun-Fat are obviously poor, yet they never seem to lack for time; money and food insecurities don’t impinge on their carefree romance (it’s conventions that separate them rather than social forces/attitudes); and materialism doesn’t motivate them even tho’ they’ve emigrated presumably for greater opportunities. Cherie Chung is a drama student, ie. art rather than commerce guides her. And Chow Yun-Fat is a community organizer whose dream is to own a sea-side restaurant--not to make his way, but as a vision of freedom: no boss, and the sea at his back. The characters work jobs, but don’t spend much time worrying about working jobs, and, again, always seem to have time to spend together. So upper-to-middle-class romance conventions set in a lower class milieu. But it works—I think I only noticed because I just saw Comrades. I’m not convinced this is a great movie, but then again I’m not usually one for rom coms, so it’s likely my own limitation. I’d say it’s one of the better non-genre films from HK. It kept a greater reign on its melodrama than Comrades managed, and deftly avoided sentimentality. Picture perfect ending, too.


Rouge (Stanley Kwan, 1987)

It’s nice to see Hong Kong films like this, a restrained melodrama pitched at elegance and sophistication, with just enough crassness to emphasize a split in sensibilities. The movie happens across two time periods, and it gets mileage from the contrast between the elegance and stylishness of 1930s Hong Kong and the crass, neon-lit cityscape of modern Hong Kong. The contrast is there in the acting styles as well, with the modern actors giving loud, broad performances, everything projected outward, while the actors for the 1930s sections withhold and underplay, with everything internalized. This split in sensibility doesn’t carry over to the visual style, tho’. Kwan prefers complex yet tasteful camera moves all through the movie. That isn’t a bad choice, as it gives formal unity to the movie as its story cross cuts between times. Thematically, we’re excavating history, personal and otherwise, with the ghost serving as a bridging figure not between the underworld and our world, but between two different cultural moments that increasingly sit atop each other. Kwan applies a slight atmosphere of the otherworldly to create a rich sense of time and emotion. This is a touching and often sophisticated move.


Dream Home (Edmond Pang, 2010)

Kind Hearts and Coronets if it were a Marxist gorefest. Stagnating wages and rising housing costs have left home ownership out of reach for most Hong Kongers. Josie Ho’s character gets a chance at her dream home and decides to secure it by offing her neighbours to drive down property values. The violence, while nasty and grim, is also creative in this lunatic way that adds some fun to the harshness. I do think the film misses out on the absurdist comedic tone that made classic Cat III films so watchable. There is a part of me that wishes this’d been made circa 1994 starring Anthony Wong. As a portrait of capitalist-fueled cultural madness, this didn’t feel quite mad enough. Josie Ho in particular was presented more sympathetically than crazed despite her indefensible brutality. Presenting her as a bad person would’ve given the satire more bite. The movie is creative in its violence and rote outside of that. I kinda liked the structure, tho’, with Josie Ho’s one-night murder spree intercut with the events leading up to it, the kills broken up by flashbacks rather than stalking sequences or character beats from the victims. I can’t think off hand of another slasher movie with that structure.
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Two blurays arrived from German distributor Cargo this week––Bullet in the Head and Dreaming the Reality––both with very different results.

I can't tell how this works, exactly. Cargo Records seems to be the distributor of the films, but nearly every 3rd or 4th Hong Kong bluray release will have another company name associated with it, as well, like T&G Vision, in the case of Bullet in the Head. In the case of Dreaming the Reality, a company called Shamrock has their name all over the disc.
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I've seen people question the legitimacy of the Cargo Records Hong Kong movie releases in the past, and these two are potentially the most questionable in that regard. Bullet in the Head was the project controversial bootlegger Hong Kong Rescue was working on, sourcing the film from a collector's 35mm print of the film, when the HKR site closed down. When the Cargo disc was announced, it seemed to offer a similar package to what the HKR disc was supposed to offer, and I've seen speculation that this disc is the result of the HKR work on the film.

I remember seeing a very high-quality clip of the film HKR put up on their site early on in the project. To my memory it looked really nice, but I remember a later version of the clip HKR had worked on that looked softer. That appears to have happened on the Cargo disc. There are two cuts of the film on the disc, each separate: the Hong Kong theatrical version, and the Director's Cut of the film. Like the HKR disc of The Killer, there seem to be a bunch of different sources for the different footage––including parts of the opening credits, which are timed differently in the DC than in the Theatrical.
Sources range pretty widely––some of it looks very much like a 35mm print, with detail and depth-of-field, a wider color range, and slightly blown-out contrast at the brighter end of the spectrum. Some of it looks like laserdisc or something, with a much narrower color palette and lower contrast. There are sections, scenes and shots which look sharp, and other sections, scenes and shots which look incredibly soft. Almost nothing looks great. There is grain all over the disc, but the grain looks suspiciously uniform, and there is never really a moment where the image settles down and looks sharp. I'm not the best at this, but if I had to guess, it looks a lot like the Criterion Children of Paradise, the result of degraining and regraining––some shots look much more that way than others. It's definitely better than the old Fortune Star DVD of Bullet in the Head, but if the source is the HKR 35mm print, then the imagined improvement isn't what it seems like it ought to be. The Director's Cut seems to be the version to watch. The scenes have a much more satisfying feeling to them, even when just a few insert shots are added and a few shots extended. But I'd say Bullet in the Head is still MIA in HD, for the most part. This disc doesn't look too great on its own merits, and while alternate cuts using degraded footage don't usually bother me-–I'm happy to watch The Wicker Man with the video inserts of the extra scenes––the endless insertion of material from different sources starts to be distracting on this disc.

The second disc, the Moon Lee/Yukari Oshima action movie Dreaming the Reality,
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also has a potential source in the twilight world of film fandom. Several years ago a Youtube channel called HKKino got their hands on a 35mm print of the movie, and posted the first 20 minutes to Youtube in HD. The announced plan was to release the film on Youtube in 20-minute chunks, but apparently the rights-holder––who had sat out the DVD revolution seemingly without a care for the already obscure film's fortunes, decided this wasn't cool, and put the kibosh on the project. It was also frustrating because the 35mm print the group had was quite a bit longer than the Hong Kong VHS cut of the film, including whole Moon/Yukari fight scenes which had, for some reason, been cut from the HK release. And now the Cargo/Shamrock disc appears, offering an "extended cut" of the film (which includes the added sequences from the initial 20-minute section of the film that was on Youtube).
Hard to ever know what to expect from these Cargo discs––many of them offer better quality than the increasingly rare HK movies have seen in the past, but none of them ever seem like definitive releases––until now. Dreaming the Reality looks AMAZING on bluray, with bright colors, a sharp-as-a-tack image, vivid texture on sets and costumes, depth-of-field...look, in this case, the quality of the disc actually goes some way to demonstrating just how cheaply and tackily the film was shot. The depth-of-field on the disc makes it apparently how little depth is inherent in the shot compositions (in fact, comparing this film to Bullet in the Head also reveals how much more sophisticated Woo's visual compositions are than Tony Lou's––Woo shoots into deep sets and locations, filling the space with actors and diegetic action unfolding––Dreaming the Reality is so much more utilitarian and bare-bones in its approach to framing and blocking). The sharper image reveals the subpar lighting, as well as the somewhat overdone reliance on natural light. The added textural detail makes it clear, for instance, that Sibelle Hu is wearing a designer brand on that loud yellow t-shirt––but the repeated too-close closeups reveal the limits of the actresses makeup all the time. Either way, though, the film looks spectacular. The only dip in quality I saw was the initial added scene, where Moon and Yukari train––which started a little soft and swimmy but which resolved to what looked like unadulterated full HD after the first couple of shots. More maybe than any other Cargo disc, the film looks unadulterated, and all the better for it.

The disc of Dreaming the Reality (in Germany the release is called "Blood Sister") offers German and English-language dubs for all of the film save a few of the added scenes (though some of those scenes somehow seem to be dubbed as well), and a Cantonese and a Mandarin language track. There are English subtitles as well. There is even an extra––an interview with actor Ben Lam, which I am curious about, but which I haven't looked at yet. There is also a collection of trailers for other Cargo offerings, in which I learned something dismaying. The trailers run in the order I'm giving, playing as a single DVD chapter. There's a trailer for Queen's High (a pretty terrible Cynthia Khan movie with a notable initial scene of her in a wedding dress with an uzi), Angel Enforcers, some American movie called Black Belt (starring Don "the Dragon" Wilson and Matthias Hues), and...the original Angel, from 1987. Turns out, Cargo released Angel on blu-ray in November or December. These discs are all pretty small-run limited editions, and Angel is, it appears, completely sold out. I had no idea it was out there at all––though in November I was maybe the most poverty-stricken that I've been in recent memory, so I don't think I could have afforded the movie anyway, but wow, what a disappointment. Not sure just what went on with that release, though. Angel is the only trailer in the collection here which is clearly being upscaled from SD. I can't find any footage from the disc anywhere. The only HD version of Angel I can find online is a 720p version clearly upscaled. So far I don't have proof the Angel disc is really HD quality––and Cargo's record on that score is just plain out-of-order. Sadly, a film being released by Cargo never seems to mean that it's coming to any other country or disc region any time soon. Whatever the case, I'd recommend the disc of Dreaming the Reality; it is the best we are ever going to see the film, I think. Unless Angel turned out different than I expect, this disc might be the best-quality release of a Moon Lee star vehicle that there is (I suppose The Inspector Wears Skirts IV might be better, but it's a far, far worse film––but I think this one looks a lot better than the Spectrum discs of Devil Hunters and Angel Terminators 2).

As for the movie, I've already talked it up a bit here. None of these Moon/Yukari movies have anything like what I'd call themes that get developed over the course of the film (except maybe the original Angel). What they are about is far more the exuberant joy in movement of the stars, most of whom are performers of a lot of their own action (and, as Devil Hunters proves, a lot of their own stunts, too––the bluray of Dreaming the Reality also makes it clear how seldom Moon and Yukari are being doubled when they're doing the dirt bike chase, for instance), and a kind of strong vibe of the times and the place––not so much Hong Kong as the sort of imaginary Hong Kong that imagines Southeast Asia––in the minds of the Southeast Asian cinemagoers that were the majority audience for the pictures. There is something so bizarre about the way these films are so frequently shot in the region of their target market, but imagined by bougie Hong Kong filmmakers as a sort of "wild west." If you watched Dreaming the Reality in Thailand, what must you have thought of the bizarre fantasy of Thailand being put forward in the film? Dreaming the Reality actually seems to have more of a script than most of the films Tony Lou directed in his 3-year-long stint in the genre. Starting in 1989––almost always under a pseudonym––he directs Killer Angels (wonderful) Devil Hunters (terrifying), The Dragon Fighter (haven't seen it), Fire Phoenix (bizarre, mis-cast mess), Holy Virgin vs. the Evil Dead (incomprehensible, full of good ideas given no room to breathe), Dreaming the Reality (exceptional), The Big Deal (way more fun than it has any right to be), Angel Terminators 2 (brilliant), and Mission of Justice (simple, but very awesome). It may be that Dreaming the Reality is more interesting because it's the one Tony writes himself? At any rate, the plot is more complex than in most of these films, and it has more than average interest behind it. The aesthetics of the scriptwriting are also kind of unique––the film is as spare, nearly flat in its dialogue, as it can be––and if feels like it works better for it. There is the beginning of a theme, one of a sisterly bond chafing against an evolving moral nature (one developed largely in dreams and premonitions, for some reason), and what happens when there is a stark break with the past (via amnesia) which allows the antihero to reconstruct herself as the person she might have wanted to be. Just like in Holy Virgin vs. the Evil Dead––which spends a lot of time implying professor Donnie Yen maybe murdered a bunch of his female students at a picnic, only to drop that plot entirely about halfway through and delve straight into a simpler kind of action for the rest of the picture––Dreaming the Reality builds a fascinating story of an awkward, artificial upbringing as a killer being redeemed by an equally artificial break with the past––then drops it completely and has the villains just start killing heroes willy-nilly, before Moon and Sibelle gear up for revenge. Killing Yukari Oshima's character halfway through is such a bizarre move, and it pretty much guarantees the action will be free of moral consequence from there on out. It seems like a mistake, like maybe Yukari could stay around to finish the picture––except that the same director does the exact same thing a year later in Angel Terminators 2. Why, after spending the rest of the film in both cases conspicuously building upon the special frisson the two actresses generate together? Here it seems like it would be so much more profitable from a storytelling perspective to have Yukari kill Ben Lam, then have Moon kill her and Yukari's brother (a little re-tooling would have had to be done, making Yukari more sympathetic to the sadistic brother figure). That would set up a conflict where Moon and Sibelle fought Yukari and the fake father, Eddie Ko. Instead, the villains are only the movie's pure psychopaths, so no care need be spent on them.

I'm just rambling at this point. All these discs are limited editions, with really small inventories. I think there were like 600 or 800 copies of Angel? Most of these discs are already out of print. So if you're a fan of Dreaming the Reality, and the Moon/Yukari movies in general, I think the disc is not to be missed.

Update: I did watch the Ben Lam interview finally. It's an 11-minute piece where Ben sits at a restaurant and answers a few simple questions. Apparently, the *sshole got his start in the cinema as a SCAB during a HK stuntman's strike. Later on, he was in the Jackie Chan stunt crew, where he says everyone was constantly taking their lives in their hands. He said he had nightmares and insomnia in preparation for most stunts in the films. He describes director Tony Lou as being very kind and easygoing, though there is no follow-up question about also making Holy Virgin vs. the Evil Dead with the same director in the previous year, with a similar cast, also in Thailand. Always heard the films were shot simultaneously, but no one picked Ben's brain on that. His recollection of his co-stars was very limited. He says Sibelle Hu was considered the most experienced actor on the film, and was a bit aloof and unapproachable as a result (Moon Lee starts in the film industry just two years after Sibelle, but I guess they took seniority very seriously). Moon Lee he described kind of vaguely as not being very good with people, but he says in spite of her reticence, he got to know her a little, since they shared a number of scenes. All very vague. Ben is pretty good-natured, but he doesn't seem to have many recollections of the movie beyond that.
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A Chinese Odyssey Part One: Pandora’s Box (Jeffrey Lau, 1995)

A comedic fantasia on the story of the Monkey King, a mystical trickster who helps a monk travel to India to retrieve some Buddhist scriptures. The story was first told in one of the four classic novels of Chinese literature, Journey to the West, and became the source of endless adaptations in film and tv, including one directed by this film’s star, Stephen Chow (Journey to the West: Conquering the Demons--unseen by me) and a Chow-produced sequel directed by Tsui Hark (I wasn’t a fan). Chow plays the Monkey King here, who’s destroyed by a goddess for his impudence, only for the Longevity Monk to exchange the Monkey King’s life for his own, causing the Monkey King to be reborn 500 years later as a thief in the desert unaware of his true identity. When the movie proper starts, a coterie of demons (including Monkey King’s former fiancee) have arrived in the desert hoping to find the Monkey King so he'll lead them to the Longevity Monk. It’s a complicated story, but then extravagance and excess is the movie’s whole deal, and leads to endless wild scenarios whose breakneck energy reminded me of early Sam Raimi. By the time the movie landed on time travel, I felt stupefied and kinda giddy. I can’t say what any of it means, and I rarely laughed, but I was charmed by the energy. There’s a layer of melancholy, too, that I found oddly moving, but it sits alongside the movie’s humour in complicated ways (one of the gentlest scenes abuts one of the funniest, where two characters’ sudden longing for each other is foiled by their inability to tear off the folds of their complicated clothing). Plus some terrific Ching Siu-Tung action—no one does flying tracking shots of twirling swordfighters like him. Tedious and exciting and exhausting and masterful—a real ride.


A Chinese Odyssey Part Two: Cinderella (Jeffrey Lau, 1995)

I owe Jessica Yeung for this observation, but this is a densely allusive post-modern parody, mostly of Ashes of Time (director Jeffrey Lau was responsible for The Eagle Shooting Heroes, the parody film made with Wong’s cast when that film paused production). I might not’ve picked this up because many of the references are linguistic, like Athena Chau’s sister/double being named after the meaning behind Brigitte Lin’s Chinese name. But once told, the parody becomes clear, what with all the wistful shots of swordfighters in the desert, the lugubrious romantic scenes, and the complicated 5-way love story where no one’s able to be with who they want (partly down to Stephen Chow falling in love with multiple women across 500 years, but a-chronologically so everything’s a mess). Somehow this film manages to be more complicated and difficult to follow than the first, given all the doubling, identity switching, time travel, parodies, and Buddhist philosophy. Much of the plot and character motivation for the first isn’t even explained until the end of the second, since technically the second part both proceeds and follows from that film simultaneously (the films seem to be using time travel to set up a cyclical plot that mimics the eternal birth/death/rebirth cycle of purification in Buddhist philosophy). There’s even a comic reenactment of the first film’s plot to get Karen Mok’s character up to speed, with Stephen Chow and director Lau acting out the scenes intercut with footage from the first. It’s parody on top of parody, a spoof spoofing itself. And behind it all, a set of values and a conception of life the film holds sincerely. Just a wild, strange set of movies, more complex than their juvenile comedy would have you believe.
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My last few posts have been attempts to fill in the gaps on the HK film archive's 100 Must-See Hong Kong Movies. Including the below, I've seen 43 of the entries. While that seems low, 45 of the entries pre-date Come Drink With Me, and I have no real interest in the early Cantonese cinema (plus I'd be surprised if any of them were even available to watch). So 43 of 55 isn't bad.


Made in Hong Kong (Fruit Chan, 1997)

Well known for having been shot on left over film reels Fruit Chan grabbed up from other productions, the scrappiness, raw energy, and outsize imagination befits HK filmmaking as a whole, even if this kind of DIY independent production was highly unusual in the industry. It’s a portrait of a city at its end, ambivalent about whatever great changes await it. I’m wary of the tendency to read most Hong Kong films as handover allegories, but the title, the year, and an ending quote from Mao Tse-Tung about bright, happy youths of the future tells you everything: the film is apocalyptic. Not in the grand sense, but in the way the future has seemed to disappear, especially for the very young, and everything else has begun to wind down. Funnily, if you lay out the bare plot, it sounds like a YA novel: a scrappy kid, his intellectually-disabled friend, and a dying girl find letters from a dead schoolgirl and try to track down who they’re written to. I say funnily because this crass and violent movie about urban squalor is the antithesis of YA. Everything here feels hemmed in and pointless. One of the dominant images is the grates, mesh, and caging that seals in seemingly every apartment, and through which characters are always gazing or chatting with each other. Bitter irony and reversals dominate the narrative, and all desires seem frustrated. The movie can seem as entrapped and fatalistic as Dangerous Encounters of the Third Kind--yet it stops short of that film’s anger even if it does share its nihilism. Fruit Chan is still able to find moments of beauty, even tenderness, amidst the chaos and squalor, and he brings a dreaminess to the film’s rhythms that’s intoxicating. There are brief visions at times of an almost joyous freedom. But these are not hopeful visions: they bring a kind of relief, a needed warmth, but they imply no hope nor progress. They are isolated moments; they don’t point anywhere. The best of them happens in a graveyard. You care for these characters, but they can’t go anywhere, and they know it. The movie makes a great pairing with Spacked Out, another masterpiece of grubby energy and aimless storytelling whose young characters have nowhere to go in their mazelike neon city. Spacked Out, tho’ not so violent and despairing, completes Made in Hong Kong’s ‘97 portrait, showing how little has changed post hand over, how the young and disadvantaged have the same aimless, heedless lives without opportunity. Made in Hong Kong is just a gem of a movie.


The Private Eyes (Michael Hui, 1976)

Maybe the earliest HK comedy I’ve watched. A gag-heavy, loosely plotted working-class comedy about a private eye (director Michael Hui) and his new apprentice (brother Sam Hui) who get embroiled with various criminals and weird clients. The thing gets too much mileage out of Bruce Lee parodies, fake buck teeth, and fart jokes, but there is a creativity to it, like a fight in a restaurant kitchen that sees swordfish, shark jaws, and sausages used as weapons. Not as briskly choreographed as it would’ve been post Jackie Chan, but it still shows the kind of energy Hong Kong did better than anybody. I know the Hui brothers have a high reputation among critics like David Bordwell and Jessica Yeung, and I had a fine time with this one, but I wouldn't think of it first when recommending an HK comedy, let alone put it on a list of 100 must-see HK films. I’d pick Love in the Time of Twilight, A Chinese Odyssey, and It’s a Drink! It’s a Bomb! before this one. But then I gather this film is important for the comic template it created and popularized. And it’s a pretty good film in the end.


God of Gamblers (Wong Jing, 1989)

Even a comparatively normal film for Wong Jing can’t help being a mess of genres, tones, and plot lines. Chow Yun-Fat is the epitome of cool as the God of Gamblers, a man of almost supernatural gambling ability who travels about, upstaging other top gamblers. The premise suggests any number of stories. Which of them does Wong Jing select? The one where the God of Gamblers gets a bump on the head and regresses into a six-year-old so that Andy Lau’s loser gangster can use him Rain Man style. So the cool, slick gangsters-and-gambling movie of the first thirty minutes transforms, out of nowhere, into a goofy buddy comedy—a charming one, admittedly. Chow’s clowning actually works, and while Andy Lau is his usual boring self, Joey Wong as his girlfriend brings the charm and energy. But the movie charges off in all sorts of directions: at one point Joey Wong has to pretend Chow is her boyfriend in order to fool her parents, a charade Chow’s childlike personality predictably ruins. Why? Who knows—it never comes up again. At another point the group moves into a brothel for some reason, and Chow starts making condom balloons, moaning like the working girls, and running around with scissors threatening to snip off people’s dicks. It’s inexplicable--but nowhere near as inexplicable as the sudden sex murder/necrophilia that, no joke, becomes a subplot 90 minutes in and seems to’ve been spliced in from another movie entirely. Then the whole thing turns into a John Woo movie, and we get maybe the bloodiest family comedy ever made. Wong gives the impression he’s making five different films at once. But for all that the movie is rather fun. The film has a tangled mess of sequels, tho’: there’s God of Gamblers II, where Andy Lau from this movie teams up with Stephen Chow’s Saint of Gamblers from the God of Gamblers parody, All For the Winner. Sean Gilman on Letterboxd likens this sequel to Tony Scott making “Top Gun 2 starring Val Kilmer and Charlie Sheen's character from Hot Shots.” Sounds insane. Then there’s a sequel to that movie, God of Gamblers III, where Stephen Chow travels back in time (meaning it’s technically an All For the Winner sequel, even tho’ that movie had its own sequel, The Top Bet!). Finally, Chow Yun-Fat returns for a direct sequel, God of Gamblers Returns, and then there’s a prequel, a Saint of Gamblers spin off not starring Stephen Chow, and a bunch of Chow Yun-Fat starring reboots apparently. I may wade into this garden of forking paths at some point.


The Legendary La Rose Noire (Jeffrey Lau, 1992)

A pair of girls find themselves in the midst of a triad double-cross, and to explain the pile of bodies, blame it on a fictional super hero, The Black Rose. Naturally, they find themselves hunted by not just the police and the triads, but two apprentices of the real Black Rose. The movie has style and energy, but the unrestrained goofiness was hard to bear. I admired the filmmaking but found little to laugh at. Like the other Jeff Lau’s I’ve seen this seems to be densely allusive and parodic, but I lacked the social and cultural context to really pick it up. I mean, I got a lot of the direct film references, but any pop culture references outside of that were lost on me. The long middle section where Maggie Siu and Tony Leung Ka-Fei are prisoners of a pair of eccentrics was especially obscure, coming across as a barrage of inexplicable situations and non sequiturs whose meaning I have to assume lies in one’s knowledge of HK pop culture. For someone in the know, this must be brilliant. To me, it was exhausting and confusing. In the way of much Cantonese comedy, the plot is loose, there only to structure an endless series of bits and gags. Again, you have to admire the energy: the invention never flags, the ideas never dry up—it’s screaming madness all the way. But this kind of energy is enervating if you don’t find it funny. And that’s mainly what I felt: exhaustion mixed with admiration.


Wonder Women (Zulian Kam Kwok-Leung, 1987)

A cute hangout comedy that follows two beauty show contestants over the course of a week as they become friends, look for work, and navigate romance. It was a nice break from the antic, gag-heavy comedy of so much HK fare. Mainly, we watch two charming women (Carol ‘Do-Do’ Cheng and Cecilia Yip) make their way through HK’s corporate world and neon night life as they pack a month’s worth of experiences into a single week. Movies focused on female relationships are pretty rare in HK film (many of the best are from Tsui Hark), so it was nice to see a movie where the emphasis is on two women navigating a particularly female relationship. Not that the film isn’t packed with conventional gender roles, but it was fun to see these two women get to know each other and express concern and sympathy for each other’s struggles all while giving a portrait of 80s nighttime Hong Kong. That rare thing: an HK comedy with some emotional maturity.


Man on the Brink (Alex Chung, 1981)

A gripping New Wave crime story about an uncover cop going to pieces while working for the triads. The story is conventional; what convinces is the raw energy of the thing. It hurtles along, as untiring as it is grimy. The story is refreshingly low stakes, too: we’re not following the attempt to take down a big crime boss. The players are petty criminals, the busts mainly robberies, and the undercover details banal and everyday. There’s nothing elevated. We’re watching a man come apart in the grubby everyday world of street crime in Hong Kong. Again, it’s the raw, chaotic style of the movie that pulls you along. The movie seems always on the verge of coming apart at the seams: the handheld camera is forever charging around, struggling to follow characters as they sprint hangdog from scene to scene, while frantic groups of people push, pull, and crowd around the camera until it seems like any minute the film itself will fly apart with the boiling frustrations of a volatile city. It feels like someone’s grabbed a camera and just run into the streets with it. There’s a lot of authenticity to how the thing feels—for the most part, anyway. There are contrivances here and there, and a late montage full of overripe expressiveness out of step with the film’s aesthetic, pulled seemingly from another movie entirely. But in general this is a raw movie even compared to City on Fire, which I’m sure it inspired. Lam’s film has its own grittiness and charging energy, but it’s marrying that with the more poetic flavour of post-Woo heroic bloodshed films. Both are run through with fatalism, but Lam’s film was tragic and had a certain grandeur at times; Chung’s is nihilistic and squalid. Man on the Brink’s frenetic urban style reminds me of Long Arm of the Law as well, tho’ it has more focus and more tonal control. A fantastic movie, sadly underseen. Don’t miss an opportunity to see it.


Homecoming (Yim Ho, 1984)

The reverse of movies like Long Arm of the Law and Comrades, Almost a Love Story. There, mainlanders were seeking new economic opportunities in Hong Kong, illegally or otherwise. Ho’s movie is the other side of that process: the return back home after years spent living in Hong Kong. What’s found is ambivalent. The years of better opportunities have turned bitter and disappointing, while home, tho’ familiar, is fraught. New class and status distinctions make situations uncomfortable or engender petty jealousies, while a lack of success in traditional areas like marriage or child rearing invite unwanted diagnoses even as the diagnoser’s own family life reveals unexpected fragility. Yim Ho films this all in a subdued and careful way. Melodrama is there if he’d wanted it, but he doesn’t even gesture at it, let alone side-step it. It’s a gentle, quietly observed story full of sadness, ambivalence, and a sense of fragile tho’ deeply felt connection to home, to family, to friends, to ideas and ideals. It’s a lovely movie, not at all in the normal style of Hong Kong storytelling. This urgently needs a rescue.
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Mr Sausage wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 3:06 amThe Legendary La Rose Noire (Jeffrey Lau, 1992)

A pair of girls find themselves in the midst of a triad double-cross, and to explain the pile of bodies, blame it on a fictional super hero, The Black Rose. Naturally, they find themselves hunted by not just the police and the triads, but two apprentices of the real Black Rose. The movie has style and energy, but the unrestrained goofiness was hard to bear. I admired the filmmaking but found little to laugh at. Like the other Jeff Lau’s I’ve seen this seems to be densely allusive and parodic, but I lacked the social and cultural context to really pick it up. I mean, I got a lot of the direct film references, but any pop culture references outside of that were lost on me. The long middle section where Maggie Siu and Tony Leung Ka-Fei are prisoners of a pair of eccentrics was especially obscure, coming across as a barrage of inexplicable situations and non sequiturs whose meaning I have to assume lies in one’s knowledge of HK pop culture. For someone in the know, this must be brilliant. To me, it was exhausting and confusing. In the way of much Cantonese comedy, the plot is loose, there only to structure an endless series of bits and gags. Again, you have to admire the energy: the invention never flags, the ideas never dry up—it’s screaming madness all the way. But this kind of energy is enervating if you don’t find it funny. And that’s mainly what I felt: exhaustion mixed with admiration.
Funny you should mention the lack of interest in early Cantonese cinema, since this film is pretty much a tribute to that. La rose noire is the name of a duo of masked heroines who fight all sorts of bad guys. The thing is that these earlier films were considered heavily influenced by the entertaining spy films made in the West at the time, so the cultural allusion really pointed back to stuff like James Bond and Catwoman which is not Hong Kong-originated. The overall performance style in The Legendary La Rose Noire owes a lot to early Cantonese cinema, specifically to Lu Chi, a charismatic star of Cantonese cinema of the 60s, whose name is used by Tony Leung's protagonist as a direct reference. I mean, indeed, the fun one derives from watching this film is proportional to how much direct and indirect reference to the old traditions of 粵語長片 (literally 'Cantonese feature film') they can decipher. For what it's worth, I voted for it in the last mini-list, as I consider this one of the best comedies from Hong Kong cinema, with one of my favorite performances from Tony Leung. The scene in which he sang out his remorseful lines while allowing his hair style get wilder and wilder brings me to laughter and tears every single time. How could he deliver all those with a straight face?
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Off the top of my head I don't recall much cultural reference in the middle section you find obscure. The intricate plot is basically a result of Jeffrey Lau's classic mix of role playing and mistaken identities. The real Black Rose girls apparently took police officer Lu as their mutual old flame, while Maggie Siu and Tony Leung's characters took this opportunity to improvise a plan to escape them, developing their own genuine romance in the middle of a feigned romantic affair.

The social context, on the other hand, arises from Lau's decision to juxtapose old urban legends with a modernized society. In one instance, when Teresa Mo's character's 'identity' as a Black Rose girl was exposed on TV, different reactions to this news from the local people were portrayed. The friendly neighbors openly admired and congratulated her while she's shopping for food in the streets, with no one interested in reporting her to the authority for the reward money. This reflects the good old integrity of common folks in countless wuxia stories. Immediately after this scene, her husband at work was similarly greeted by his coworkers for being the husband of a secret heroine (a mild jab at male complacency), with his superior giving him an instant promotion, because his presence in this insurance company would boost clients' confidence in them--an entirely capitalistic calculation. The scene ends with the husband getting snatched up by the police without a moment to savor the joy of this surprise promotion, and another colleague commented: such is Hong Kong life's fast ups and downs.

I generally like Jeffrey Lau's penchant for putting modern souls into a seemingly inescapable setting of traditional stories. They have to carefully navigate a set of personalities and situations with well-known parameters, often needing to play a certain eccentric role, all the while struggling with obsolete values and fixed destinies. I think that somehow reflects a general feeling of the Hong Kong public at a certain point in a certain era. Now that even that era is gone all that's left is a double nostalgia, one for the long-gone old times and one for the time characterized by this clash of old and new.
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Appreciate the comments! I didn't have any trouble following the plot, but I did sense many of the gags, bits, and character points were references that, if you understood them, would make the comic situations comprehensible. This was true throughout, but became especially true in the middle section where the plot dropped to a minimum and the movie became a series of skits. Stuff like the two Black Roses thinking Tony Leung is some old lover of theirs, Keith, and trapping him in the basement (is this a reference to other movies or to the legend? The mistaken identity is never explained), the songs they break into (they sound old), ect. It felt like I was missing some key context there that would turn that section from a series of baffling scenarios into a set of parodies. I know mo lei tau humour relies heavily on non-sequitur, but I felt there was still a cultural component to the jokes that you needed to grasp the thing's drift, the middle section in particular.
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The Maidens of Heavenly Mountains (Andy Chin, 1994)

Pure 90s wuxia: wild, vibrant, colourful, brimming with strangeness, and totally incomprehensible. Imagine the wild camerawork of Swordsman II, the grand magic battles of Zu: Warriors of the Magic Mountain, and the sumptuous cinematography and production design of Green Snake, all shot through with a heady sapphic eroticism. If you need any more reasons to see it, it stars Brigitte Lin (as twins) and Gong Li. It’s the kind of thing where people chase each other through the sky, shooting beams of light as they flutter their gowns and pose haughtily, while 20 minutes worth of exposition flies by in a minute or two and characters rush in and out of scenes with only a brief shout of their name to introduce them. I’d give a plot description, but I don’t think it’s possible. This has subplots on top of subplots, none of them properly explained. Of course it’s based on a sprawling wuxia novel by Lous Cha, whose works have been adapted into endless movies, including Ashes of Time, the Swordsman trilogy, and Tsui’s latest, Legends of the Condor Heroes: The Gallants. Indeed, The Maidens of Heavenly Mountains is like the latter in that there’s way too much material to narrate to even understand the plot; but unlike Tsui in his modern form, this one goes the 90s route of getting exposition out of the way as quickly as possible and not bothering so much with basic legibility. Feverish action and dreamy fantasy are the attractions, and this movie over-delivers. It’s been a while since I’ve watched something so joyously weird.


Deadful Melody (Ng Min-Kan, 1994)

Same speed and adrenaline, but a more comprehensible plot. Brigitte Lin tasks Yuen Biao with delivering a magic lyre that, when played, blows the shit out of everything, turning people and objects into red, pink, and blue dust. Various evil figures of the martial world are out to retrieve it for themselves, while Lin plots in the background. Just because it’s comprehensible, tho’, doesn’t mean it isn’t cramming hours worth of plot into 20 minutes stretches or that it can be bothered to explain the rules of its world. So many heads are ripped off and people blown to pieces it’s staggering. I think the finale might literally count as genocide. Brigitte Lin brings her usual intensity and gender bending (she reminded me of Cheng Pei-Pei in Come Drink with Me) and Yuen Biao has that boyish enthusiasm and athleticism. But it’s Carina Lau that impressed me. She’s not an actress I’ve payed much attention to, but she brought a spunky attitude that was infectious and was the highlight of the movie for me, performance-wise. Another wild, bombastic movie of pure enjoyment. This type of thing is some of my favourite cinema.
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Re: Hong Kong Cinema

#797 Post by Finch »

How do you find these, Mr Sausage? Tubi? The Criterion channel?
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Re: Hong Kong Cinema

#798 Post by Mr Sausage »

Honestly, all over the place. Tubi, youtube, internet archive, local library, other places...
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Re: Hong Kong Cinema

#799 Post by Finch »

I'll try find some of those this weekend. Thank you! 👍
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Re: Hong Kong Cinema

#800 Post by feihong »

A whole lot of HK films from Mei Ah and Panorama are on the Cinema No. 8 youtube channel. The lineup changes frequently. They have a few classics right now, like Swordsman II, Skinny Tiger and Fatty Dragon, Dragon from Russia, etc. But they have tons of under-seen films, like the Pat Ha sci-fi picture Life is a Moment, the Wu Ma backstage movie Stage Door Johnny, the George Lam/Rosamund Kwan Dracula film A Bite of Love, and a ton of supernatural movies, like the Pauline Wong vehicle Split of the Spirit and the Ngai Choi Lam-directed horror comedy The Ghost Snatchers (not bad). They have a ton of relatively unseen Kara Wai pictures, for some reason. They have the almost-good Sammo Hung/Fennie Yuen supernatural drama My Flying Wife, they have King of Stanley Market, a rare vehicle for comedian Richard Ng, with Sylvia Chang and Lydia Shum. They have that weird sci-fi picture with Yuen Wah, The Final Test. There's a bunch of Stephen Chow stuff I don't care about, too. They even have some old Johnnie To TV movies.

There are also some strange-looking ones I've never heard of, like the Maggie Cheung/Jacky Cheung/Michael Wong movie Will of Iron, which the channel advertises with the phrase: "Jacky Cheung plays the role of a drug-addicted cartoonist who also abuses his girlfriend!" Um, jeez. How did I miss this one? But I think there are some more worthwhile movies as well. They actually have a decent version of Magic of Spell.

I also just title search on Youtube, and frequently something comes up. Dragon Gate Inn, the Tsui Hark remake with Maggie Cheung and Donnie Yen, is on Youtube in HD, and you can frequently find movies like The Mission and Tsui Hark's The Blade there.

Tubi looks like it has some higher-grade movies. A bunch of Johnnie To titles, including lesser-seen ones like Triangle, Bare-Footed Kid, and Life Without Principle. They've got Bride with White Hair, Raining in the Mountain, Deadful Melody, and it looke like they even have Golden Queen's Commando, some of the awful catalog of Chu Yen-Ping. They have Wong Kar-Wai's 2046. There's a couple of King Hu films as well––Fate of Lee Khan and Raining in the Mountain. So, some of the very best, in other words. They've got a few things from Moon Lee and Michiko Nishiwaki, including the only version of Avenging Quartet I've ever seen in what looks like the proper aspect ratio, an HD transfer of Devil Hunters, and Magic Cop. They've got some old Chang Cheh movies, like Chinatown Kid, Shanghai 13 and Attack of the Goddess of Joy (which is actually a pretty interesting movie, listed under the title Five Venoms Attack). They have the Sibelle-Hu-starring Sonny Chiba picture Fighting Fist, with English Subtitles. Rare, perhaps, but not really worth much of a look. Still, kind of amazing that they have it.

Not Hong Kong pictures, but Tubi has two Xu Haofeng movies––the brilliant The Final Master and the not-so-brilliant-but-still-interessting Judge Archer. I feel like everyone ought to see The Final Master.
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