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Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:15 am
by otis
Yeah, thanks, skuhn. Jancso in a speedo sounds unmissable!

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:57 am
by MichaelB
I originally planned just to order the Jancsó, but when I realised how cheap the other DVDs in that series were (most of them go for 891 forints, or just £2.48/€2.89/US$3.99, and even the Jancsó is cheaper than the Second Run equivalent), and that they offered free delivery for orders of more than 10,000 forints, I ordered another nine.

Aside from constantly having to cut-and-paste to Google Translate, lira.hu was pretty straightforward to navigate, and they seem happy to ship abroad.

I'll report back when they arrive.

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:27 pm
by Flanell
Michael, have you got any recommendations to make? I also initially planned on ordering just the single Jancso.

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:34 pm
by MichaelB
Well, I haven't seen most of them yet! But I suspect you can't go wrong with an early István Szabó (if Apa and his early 60s shorts are any guide), and I was also very impressed by István Gaál's Current (Sodrásban), which I wrote about here.

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:53 pm
by Flanell
MichaelB wrote:Well, I haven't seen most of them yet! But I suspect you can't go wrong with an early István Szabó (if Apa and his early 60s shorts are any guide), and I was also very impressed by István Gaál's Current (Sodrásban), which I wrote about here.
Thanks, i will check them out!

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:21 pm
by MichaelB
MichaelB wrote:I originally planned just to order the Jancsó, but when I realised how cheap the other DVDs in that series were (most of them go for 891 forints, or just £2.48/€2.89/US$3.99, and even the Jancsó is cheaper than the Second Run equivalent), and that they offered free delivery for orders of more than 10,000 forints, I ordered another nine.
Scratch that - they've just cancelled the order. I shouldn't be surprised that the 10,000 forint delivery offer applied only within Hungary, but most other online retailers would have automated systems preventing such an order from going through with a foreign address attached.

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:55 pm
by otis
I ordered just the Jancso (which came to £13.70 with postage to the UK), and that still seems to be on track.

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:00 am
by JakeB
skuhn8 wrote:Ildiko Enyedi's Az én XX. századom (My 20th Century) has finally been released on DVD in Hungary with English subtitles.
Hopefully this gets to you. I saw this film recently on 35mm, but it was projected wrong (heads cut out of the image etc.) it looked like it maybe could have been 1:66:1. A website lists the DVD as 1:33:1. Do you know the original aspect ratio of this film? Is the DVD pan and scan?

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:03 am
by MichaelB
JakeB wrote:
skuhn8 wrote:Ildiko Enyedi's Az én XX. századom (My 20th Century) has finally been released on DVD in Hungary with English subtitles.
Hopefully this gets to you. I saw this film recently on 35mm, but it was projected wrong (heads cut out of the image etc.) it looked like it maybe could have been 1:66:1. A website lists the DVD as 1:33:1. Do you know the original aspect ratio of this film? Is the DVD pan and scan?
I have the Hungarian DVD on order, so I'll confirm when it arrives.

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:10 pm
by otis
Just received my copy of The Red and the White. Haven't checked out the extras yet, but, as promised, the picture quality on the film is big step-up from the Second Run edition. Screen caps for comparison here. Thanks to L.A. and skuhn for bringing this to our attention!

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:13 pm
by MichaelB
otis wrote:Just received my copy of The Red and the White. Haven't checked out the extras yet, but, as promised, the picture quality on the film is big step-up from the Second Run edition. Screen caps for comparison here. Thanks to L.A. and skuhn for bringing this to our attention!
Yes, that's a really dramatic improvement - just as the recent restorations of Red Psalm and Szindbád marked significant advances over the previous DVDs. My copy was posted on Monday, so hopefully I'll get to see it myself before too long.

It's good to see that the Hungarians are taking film restoration seriously, especially when Miklós Jancsó is still with us to advise.

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:40 pm
by skuhn8
JakeB wrote:
skuhn8 wrote:Ildiko Enyedi's Az én XX. századom (My 20th Century) has finally been released on DVD in Hungary with English subtitles.
Hopefully this gets to you. I saw this film recently on 35mm, but it was projected wrong (heads cut out of the image etc.) it looked like it maybe could have been 1:66:1. A website lists the DVD as 1:33:1. Do you know the original aspect ratio of this film? Is the DVD pan and scan?
The Hungarian DVD is 1:33:1. I believe this is the correct aspect ratio.

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:03 pm
by JakeB
skuhn8 wrote:The Hungarian DVD is 1:33:1. I believe this is the correct aspect ratio.
Thanks! This actually makes more sense, the cropping was pretty terrible at 1:85:1. I'm very much looking forward to the DVD arriving now!

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:53 pm
by MichaelB
My copy of The Red and the White turned up this morning, and although the picture isn't quite up to the standard of Clavis' Cantata or Second Run's My Way Home or Red Psalm (probably the three best Jancsó transfers out there), it's certainly a very substantial advance on the old Second Run disc - and would be a clear first choice even if it wasn't for the superb extras.

I haven't watched the main documentary yet, but the production featurette is a delight - not to mention genuinely fascinating in the way it illustrates the logistical efforts behind Jancsó's visual choreography in terms of positioning both the performers and the camera. I'm also happy to confirm that the package appears to be completely trilingual - when you load it up, you're offered menus in Hungarian, English or Russian.

Sadly, though, this seems to be in a minority among the Magyar Filmtörténeti Sorozata releases in featuring subtitles on the extras - the other discs that I've checked out (two early Szabós and the triple-film edition of The Man of Gold/Az Aranyember) definitely don't. Annoyingly, despite this, the menus are bilingual even with regard to the extras, so you get some idea of what you're missing!

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:16 pm
by knives
Is the extra from Second Run's edition duplicated on this release?

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:01 pm
by otis
knives wrote:Is the extra from Second Run's edition duplicated on this release?
No, but, as skuhn mentioned, you do get to see footage of Jancso directing in his swimming trunks:

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Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:02 am
by videozor
Mephisto is listed here, or already available from the same Hungarian Archive that published the edition of The Red and the White discussed above. Judging by the price this could be a 2-disker

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:15 am
by MichaelB
videozor wrote:Mephisto is listed here: http://www.lira.hu/hu/film/most-erkezet ... phisto-dvd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; as coming/ or already available from the same Hungarian Archive that published the edition of The Red and the White discussed above. Judging by the price this could be a 2-disker
The main question is whether the extras will have subtitles. On the basis of a cursory look through my collection, it seems that the more recent releases generally do, but the older ones definitely don't, so I wouldn't bet on it.

Still, the transfer should be markedly superior to my old letterboxed Anchor Bay disc - though, again, that's not a given, as one or two of the Hungarian discs are letterboxed too.

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:03 pm
by videozor
The only other DVD similar, at least by cover design, to The Red and the White that I've found on lira.hu is one of Dreams of Love.

Curiously, this is another Soviet-Hungarian co-production. The soviet distribution practice was to divide a movie longer that 100 min into two parts. So, accordingly, Dreams... is split on two disks and there are some extras as well on the second disk.

English subtitles are available, but maybe only for the feature.

The movie itself is nothing in the caliber of The Red... - traditional biopic of Liszt. I didn't see it, but, unlike The Red..., it was widely shown in USSR when I was a kid, so one could guess...

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:11 pm
by MichaelB
Yes, that's the other recent one - just one extra, a film about Liszt biopics that, on the basis of a quick spin through, completely fails to mention Ken Russell's contribution, but it does have English subtitles.

The transfer of the main feature (another 2011 restoration) is excellent - a notch above The Red and the White, in fact.

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:45 pm
by videozor
So it does have English subs on extras?!

Great news, Michael, this might be a trend and indicator that all future releases will have them as well!!!

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:04 am
by skuhn8
Saw the new Mephisto available in the shops yesterday. It's a single disc, displays same 'restored' label as Red/White. Not sure if the minimal extras are subtitled, but that seems to be the trend with the revamped label.

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:08 pm
by videozor
Thanks for details, Skuhn! Please let us know about subtitles if you eventually pick this disk up.

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:24 pm
by videozor
Back of the cover of Mephisto can be seen now on lira.hu. As far as I could guess this is a short (18 min) piece about the director. The feature has English subtitles. If this extra piece does have them as well, could this edition be considered the best English-friendly one? Can anybody comment?!

Re: Hungarian films on DVD

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:33 pm
by TMDaines
There was an interview with the director on the US release. Was supposed to be pretty dull but this may well be the best release now.