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Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:26 am
by domino harvey
Liz Smith
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:04 am
by MichaelB
Is this a different Liz Smith from the actress? Because that one died last year.
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:31 am
by Kauno
MichaelB wrote:Is this a different Liz Smith from the actress? Because that one died last year.
Yep, there were two of them:
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Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:57 pm
by bearcuborg
He clearly meant the gossip columnist.
I don’t think Liz was ever on Howard Stern-but she always provided good material for the show.
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:32 pm
by ccfixx
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:35 pm
by domino harvey
Yes, the gossip columnist-- in the halcyon days before the Internet, I grew up with her telling me all about various celebs' embarrassments and wrongdoings on E!'s the Gossip Show
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:52 pm
by Black Hat
She was also a regular on the classic, somehow hosted by AJ Benza and a fog of smoke, Hollywood Mysteries and Scandals.
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:45 pm
by Professor Wagstaff
Randall Maysin wrote:Professor Wagstaff wrote:Screenwriter Robert Getchell, back in October
Rest in peace. It's amazing how the most talented people in Hollywood, the screenwriters, can often go their whole lives writing brilliant things, and die totally unknown to the general public and never having, or almost never having, their visions brought faithfully or unadulteratedly to the screen. And they're top industry insiders and often very rich.
A perhaps tasteless question for the forum: I've always wondered if it would be possible for an unconnected layperson like me to access some of the original screenplays I've heard about over the years being so much better than the film that ultimately gets made. Especially Earl Mac Rauch's for Scorsese's awful
New York, New York, or Carole Eastman's for
The Fortune, or even some of the ones that Altman allegedly ruined, especially for
The Company and
Popeye. Any info would be really appreciated, thanks!
I've always wondered this as well. Along with early drafts, there are many unproduced scripts I'd love to read. Paddy Chayefsky's The Habakkuk Conspiracy is my holy grail in this regard. Perhaps it is archived in his collection at The New York Public Library.
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:42 pm
by Randall Maysin
I've wondered about archives in general. What do you have to do to get inside them? If I can't access them, why the hell not? And why is the material only available in archives. You'd think, particularly for most screenwriters, that it would be better for their legacy to have the material easily available in some form, whether free or not I don't care, as long as the cost isn't prohibitive which it probably would be though. Do archivists just figure that hardly anybody is interested?
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:49 pm
by MichaelB
Archivists' priority is preservation, not access. And there are significant copyright hurdles regarding duplication and circulation - for starters, unless the screenwriter completely failed to sell the script to anyone, they're unlikely to have any personal say in what happens to it.
Which is why archives generally prefer people to have appropriate research credentials.
Re: Passages
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:15 pm
by Colpeper
Keith Barron
Spot on tribute there by Matthew Sweet.
Re: Passages
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:15 pm
by rohmerin
Luis Bacalov, Oscar winner composer.
Re: Passages
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:22 pm
by Big Ben
rohmerin wrote:Luis Bacalov, Oscar winner composer.
Oh that's a shame. His work on the original Django is great.
Re: Passages
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:37 pm
by rohmerin
Bacalov was 84. Men live less than women.
I didn't know he was Italian by option. (Still Argentinian too? Probably)
Re: Passages
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:23 am
by Swift
Re: Passages
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:19 am
by Aunt Peg
The great Ann Wedgeworth has passed away:
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Re: Passages
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:33 pm
by bearcuborg
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:01 am
by mfunk9786
Folk singer and bon vivant
Charles Manson
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:41 am
by Big Ben
That's another closed chapter (Chapter not book I should stress) in a major Hollywood event, regardless of Polanksi's later behavior. I confess I'm not sure how much of Manson was lucid and how much wasn't. I only say that because in interviews he gives very blunt, honest answers that could only be made by someone quite lucid but they are sandwiched between overtly cartoonish behavior. I guess we'll never know.
Although I find the notion crude his early recording work is available to listen to on iTunes no less. Spoiler alert. He isn't The Beach Boys or The Beatles.
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:33 am
by Colpeper
Jana Novotná at age 49
Her weeping on the shoulder of HRH The Duchess of Kent, after losing the Wimbledon Singles Final in 1993, was one of sport's most unexpected and moving moments. Dobrou noc Jana.
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:42 pm
by mfunk9786
Big Ben wrote:That's another closed chapter (Chapter not book I should stress) in a major Hollywood event, regardless of Polanksi's later behavior. I confess I'm not sure how much of Manson was lucid and how much wasn't. I only say that because in interviews he gives very blunt, honest answers that could only be made by someone quite lucid but they are sandwiched between overtly cartoonish behavior. I guess we'll never know.
It is absolutely worth listening to the gargantuan
You Must Remember This series on the Manson murders - still probably the crowning achievement of that podcast in its size and scale, and though it isn't as long on gory detail as some of the more clinical and obsessive books out there, you will absolutely walk away feeling as if the timelines and players are fully fleshed out (no pun intended, I swear) for you. Including Manson, perhaps, as you alluded to, the most unknowable element of the entire affair.
Quick update: Karina Longworth spent today giving this series its own podcast feed. It can be found
here, titled
You Must Remember Manson.
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:40 pm
by mfunk9786
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:02 pm
by Feego
Re: Passages
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:17 pm
by antnield
Re: Passages
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:15 am
by bearcuborg