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ryannichols7 wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:36 pm I do think some of these "release" and "upgrade" should be the other way around. like I see both Seven Samurai as "upgrades" as they were already on BD and are mostly a format upgrade (BFI adding a new commentary + booklet, though). I personally see Arrow's Silence of the Lambs as a whole new release as they did tons from the ground up. so I'll vote accordingly

We seem to touch on this every year.

Some of it will be subjective too, as we all have our own (peculiar) preferences.

The Shootist and The Tin Star are somewhat similar releases (from Arrow US), but I happened to like the on-disc extras on the former release a lot, while those on the latter seemed to me... fine, just not "my thing" to the same degree.

Hence I rated The Tin Star mostly on the basis of the film itself, the presentation of it, and how much I had "missed it". Which is to say, I rated it more as an upgrade than as a full release.

I realise that from an "objective" POV, the extras on The Tin Star are just as exhaustive as those on The Shootist, an equal amount of care seems to have been taken, and I'm totally fine with swo putting both in the Overall Release bracket (if that was intentional).

Same with Nostalghia, I leave it up to swo, happily.

I've been judgmentally assigning some things to release vs. upgrade that got nominations in the other category. If anyone takes issue with where I've placed anything, bring it up and I can reassess

How come you moved Daisy Miller and Has Anybody Seen My Gal in one direction and Nostalghia in the other (while Body and Soul has remained in 'upgrade')? They all seem to have gotten the "extended KL treatment" with a new commentary and one or two archival programmes.

Again, I'm not questioning the choices, just curious about criteria.

The first two are new Kino releases. They released Nostalghia before. I was thinking they'd already released Body and Soul and had just updated the transfer, but now that I think about it, that was Olive

I see, I hadn't thought of label-switch as a criterion.

TechnicolorAcid wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 2:30 pm I’d like to nominate The Battle of Chile for Best Upgrade

Best Release:
Man’s Castle (Columbia)

I would like to second both of these.

I will nominate:

Best upgrade:
The Man I Love (Warner Archive)

Best Cover:
Nicole Kidman's face is To Die For (Criterion)

Best Thread (title):
I Love UHD, Alice B. Toklas!

I would like to nominate for best release:

Hollywood 90028 (Grindhouse Releasing)
Laurel and Hardy Year Two (Flicker Alley)
Close Your Eyes (Film Movement)
Hundreds of Beavers (Cartuna)
Zone of Interest (A24)
The Bounty Hunter Trilogy (Radiance)
Shinobi (Radiance)
Roaring Twenties (Criterion)
Risky Business (Criterion)

and second Columbo the Return

Nominate Aliens (Sony) for most disappointing

Second for best cover:
Slap the Monster on Page One (Radiance)
Demon Pond (Criterion)

I second the Laurel and Hardy release, Hundreds of Beavers, and The Roaring Twenties for best release and in the same category I’d like to nominate Severin’s All the Haunts Volume 2 and their 4K releases for the Vixen trilogy.

TechnicolorAcid wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:20 pm I second the Laurel and Hardy release, Hundreds of Beavers, and The Roaring Twenties for best release and in the same category I’d like to nominate Severin’s All the Haunts Volume 2 and their 4K releases for the Vixen trilogy.

SECONDING:

BEST RELEASE:
Close Your Eyes (Film Movement)
Zone of Interest (A24)
The Bounty Hunter Trilogy (Radiance)
Shinobi (Radiance)
Severin’s All the Haunts Volume 2
Allonsanfan (Radiance)
The Kingdom Trilogy (Mubi)
Tchao pantin (Radiance)
Silence of the Lambs (Arrow)
The Valiant Ones (Eureka)
Phase IV (VS)
Pursued (Kino)
Bluebeard (Kino)
Scarlet Street (Kino)
He Walked by Night (Kino)
Southern Comfort (VS)
Michael Powell: The Early Works (BFI)
Ikiru (BFI)

Best Upgrade:
The Long Good Friday (Arrow)
Withnail and I (Arrow)

Most Disappointing:
Aliens

NOMINATING:

For Best Release:
Fallen Leaves (Mubi)

For Best Cover:
Adela Has Not Had Supper Yet (Deaf Crocodile)
I Vampiri (Radiance)

Seconding Fallen Leaves (Mubi)

Risky Business and Phase IV are certainly near the top for me

I'd like to nominate Paper Moon for Best Packaging

Could have sworn I already nominated that but apparently didn’t, so, yes— seconded!

Nominating for Best Release:

Seinfeld: The Complete Series 4K UHD (Sony)
The Man from Majorca (Radiance).

Seconding The Man from Majorca for Best Overall Release and also Fear and Desire for Best Upgrade. I will also nominate the Friends 4K set and the I Love Lucy sets for Most Disappointing.

swo17 wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:23 pm MOST DISAPPOINTING RELEASE

Aliens (Sony)
True Lies (Sony)

These are all Disney, Sony had no involvement with these.

Thanks for the correction

I second Hollywood 90028 (Grindhouse Releasing, Nov 26) for best release and The Escapees (Indicator, Dec 9)for best cover.

Also, I nominate these for─

Best Release
Cure 4K (Plain Archive, Dec 9)
Death Machine (Kino Lorber, Jun 4)
Fear is the Key (Arrow, Feb 13)
Fist of Legend 4K (88 Films, Jun 24)
Handgun (Fun City Editions, Apr 2)
Little Darlings (Cinématographe, Jan 30)
Never Open That Door (Flickery Alley, Jun 28)
The Outside Man (Kino Lorber, Jan 9)
Planet of the Vampire (Radiance, May 27)
Red Line 7000 (Arrow, Jul 30)
The Valiant Red Peony: Red Peony Gambler I-III (Eureka, Jun 17)

Best Upgrade
Blood on the Sun (Kino Lorber, Feb 13)
Burn, Witch, Burn (Kino Lorber, Oct 1)
Darkman 4K (Shout Factory, Feb 20)
Fear City (Shout Factory, May 28)
Invasion of the Body Snatchers - 1978 version 4K (Arrow, Feb 12)
Meet John Doe (ClassicFlix, May 21)
Pandora's Box (Criterion, Oct 15)
Prime Cut 4K (Kino Lorber, Aug 20)
The Raid: Redemption 4K (Sony, Jan 16)
Rolling Thunder 4K (Shout Factory Apr 23)
The Stepfather 4K (Shout Factory, Sep 10)
The Wages of Fear 4K (BFI, Feb 19)

Best Cover
Fist of Legend 4K (88 Films, Jun 24)

Second Pandora’s Box and Rolling Thunder for upgrade

Second Planet of the Vampires, Little Darlings, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Meet John Doe, Red Line 7000

Swo, one small thing, why isn't Matinee in the Upgrades section and instead in the Regular Releases section?

TechnicolorAcid wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:25 am Swo, one small thing, why isn't Matinee in the Upgrades section and instead in the Regular Releases section?

I'd forgotten they released that on Blu-ray before. Thanks for pointing that out

Seconding:

Best Release

Little Darlings (Cinématographe)
Planet of the Vampire (Radiance)
The Valiant Red Peony: Red Peony Gambler I-III (Eureka)

Best Upgrade

Burn, Witch, Burn (Kino Lorber)
Darkman 4K (Shout Factory)
Invasion of the Body Snatchers - 1978 version 4K (Arrow)
Pandora's Box (Criterion)
Prime Cut 4K (Kino Lorber)
The Wages of Fear 4K (BFI)

I'm working on my post for the year at the moment (though I'm going to stick to the old fashioned way of doing things if that's OK), but I thought I'd mention the wonderful cover for Hundreds of Beavers as worth a nom:

Safe New Year to everyone.

Would like to nominate Les Yeux Sans Visage (Umbrella) for Best Release and packaging and second the Lavender Hill Mob for Best Upgrade. More to follow