421 Pierrot le fou

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Tom Hagen · #301 Post by **Tom Hagen** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:32 pm

As people have already said, Criterion printed a whole bunch of these right before they lost the rights and it officially went OOP. I don't think anyone is out there bootlegging these.

Why are you worried that there seem to be too many of these still in circulation at reasonable prices? How is that possibly a problem?

SpiderBaby · #302 Post by **SpiderBaby** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:35 pm

I don't know what this means, but Pierrot le fou is now on the Rialto site (Can't click on the link yet, just the title is shown).

Askew · #303 Post by **Askew** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:50 pm

felipe wrote:
mfunk9786 wrote:The former - Amazon sells nearly every item known to man, they wouldn't have the foresight to sell these in drips and drabs deliberately.
But if they run out of stock how do they get more items? It's out of print so it couldn't be from Criterion, right? (or else Criterion itself would be selling it on the website, I assume)

Amazon is a huge company that has to keep track of many, many different items in their warehouses. How is it odd that they find a couple of these just laying around every now and then?

felipe · #304 Post by **felipe** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:40 am

Tom Hagen wrote:As people have already said, Criterion printed a whole bunch of these right before they lost the rights and it officially went OOP. I don't think anyone is out there bootlegging these.

Why are you worried that there seem to be too many of these still in circulation at reasonable prices? How is that possibly a problem?

It's not neccessarily a problem, I'd say we're just curious.
I mean, if Criterion printed a new bunch right before it went OOP why didn't they do it for the other titles that were to become OOP?

rrenault · #305 Post by **rrenault** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:47 am

It would appear they did the same for Grand Illusion and The Milky Way, since those can still be had at reasonable prices, as well.

rrenault · #306 Post by **rrenault** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:45 pm

I don't know where else to ask this. I figured I would ask here, but is Godard anti-criterion? I ask, because it seems that all the criterion Godard transfers are approved by Coutard rather than by Godard, whereas most criterion transfers seem to be director-approved, provided the director's still alive. Also, both Godard and Karina have done interviews, exclusively for Criterion, along with some other Godard collaborators, but Godard hasn't given a single Criterion-exclusive interview, and I know he's very open to giving interviews in general.

#307 Post by **zedz** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:54 pm

I think that's just part of his branding.

#308 Post by **swo17** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:02 pm

It could have something to do with the fact that Criterion thinks Godard stopped making films in 1972.

aox · #309 Post by **aox** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:06 pm

You should have seen my shock when I was first getting into film and learned that Godard didn't die in 1972. Thanks Criterion.

Mr. Ned · #310 Post by **Mr. Ned** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:40 pm

swo17 wrote:It could have something to do with the fact that Criterion thinks Godard stopped making films in 1972.

Sauve qui peut (la vie) or King Lear CCs = dreams come true. As for Godard's lack of involvement with Criterion, I'd say it's most likely because he's an old fart and doesn't care about DVDs. I get the feeling he doesn't get out much.

rrenault · #311 Post by **rrenault** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:44 pm

Well if Rohmer and Resnais can get involved in the release of Criterions at 85+ then Godard doesn't have much of an excuse.

#312 Post by **swo17** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:49 pm

Yes, because life is exactly the same for all 85-year olds.

SpiderBaby · #313 Post by **SpiderBaby** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:58 pm

I would atleast like to see a Groupe Dziga Vertov set (maybe Eclipse).

AlexHansen · #314 Post by **AlexHansen** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:04 pm

swo17 wrote:Yes, because life is exactly the same for all 85-year olds.

And all 85-year olds are the same.

MichaelB · #315 Post by **MichaelB** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:03 pm

Just thought I'd mention that Amazon are selling copies of Pierrot le fou again - and my copy turned up today, and it's definitely the Criterion edition.

Der Spieler · #316 Post by **Der Spieler** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:07 pm

Wish copies of The Third Man would keep showing up.

rrenault · #317 Post by **rrenault** » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:11 pm

duane hall wrote:I wouldn't call it revisionist history, but Craig addresses the phenomenon in the first paragraph of his Senses of Cinema entry on Godard (which nails the issue).

Yeah, Ebert's an appreciationist at best. It'd do me well to stop considering him altogether. But my beef is not with his opinion on Pierrot, but the across-the-table dismissal of everything that followed, and the conservative and tame attitude toward film-watching it exemplifies.

I know this is an old post, but where can I find this article, because this link appears to be expired?

Numero Trois · #318 Post by **Numero Trois** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:39 pm

It doesn't seem to be on the SoS site right now. Was the link pointing to the "Great Directors" section of that site?

Numero Trois · #319 Post by **Numero Trois** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:27 pm

Of course Ebert is hardly the only reviewer to utter gross distortions about Godard's work.

Charles Taylor wrote:"Weekend,” which caps the amazing 15-movie, seven-year run that Jean-Luc Godard began with “Breathless” in 1960, remains, despite the extraordinary critical push to convince us otherwise, the last good film he has made…… .…Mr. Godard’s later movies show only flashes of engagement with the world.

One might be tempted in turn to make sweeping judgements about Taylor's writing, but it's not quite that simple. He's not completely averse to challenging cinema outright; he's written favorably about Sans Soleil. But then again, one does come across doozies like this one-

Charles Taylor wrote:As one friend of mine put it, if you don’t love “The Dreamers,” you don’t deserve movies.

rrenault · #320 Post by **rrenault** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:47 am

I just wanted to make sure this was a 'flaw' in the transfer and not an issue with my disc, but the music gets a little staticky at around the 1h25min mark.

PfR73 · #321 Post by **PfR73** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:00 am

While there was a lot of discussion about the green tint in the Sam Fuller shot, another large color timing difference between the Criterion & Studio Canal Blu-Rays, both of which I own, is the shot of Ferdinand & Marianne sleeping on the beach about 42 minutes in. The dialogue over the previous shot talks about "seeing it through to the end of the night" & the shot of the sun darkens visibly. During the scene, Ferdinand & Marianne talk about seeing the moon. However, on the Criterion disc, it looks like sunlight. The Studio Canal disc is darker & more blue, looking like day-for-night. This can be seen in the 4th set of caps in the DVDBeaver comparison. The Canal disc seems like it could be more correct for the scene, but the Criterion disc is approved by Coutard & the consensus seemed to be that Studio Canal was wrong about the Fuller shot. Criterion looks like it could be dawn, is the scene supposed to be dawn instead of night? I'm curious if anyone has any information about how this shot is supposed to look.

Graphist · #322 Post by **Graphist** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:50 pm

Is the Blu-Ray back in print? It looks like it is available for purchase on Barnes & Noble for $38.68 (not through the marketplace sellers).

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dvd-pie ... 5515050111" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

sir_luke · #323 Post by **sir_luke** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:46 pm

Right now it says "temporarily out of stock online" just like the sudden, seemingly legitimate Amazon listing for Blu copies of The Third Man did a few months back. Of course, I'd love to believe that they came across magically unsold old stock, but I've been burned before

Ribs · #324 Post by **Ribs** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:07 pm

Well another copy came into stock so I ordered (using a coupon, to boot!) and it went out of stock again. I'm not really expecting it end up coming here but hey I'll happily take it (I actually just ordered a copy of Army of Shadows off ebay this week and have been looking at filling in some OOP holes).

sir_luke · #325 Post by **sir_luke** » Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:56 pm

Better to try it and possibly fail than not try it and miss out, I suppose!

EDIT: Ordered on Sunday, said the expected delivery date is the 21st, still hasn't shipped. I'm gonna say probably not on this one.

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