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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:13 am
by matrixschmatrix
I've got the Optimum and I've seen the MGM- I didn't do screenshots or anything, but there weren't any print differences I noticed, and the Optimum definitely looks fine. No subtitles, though.
If you're looking to pick that up, Amazon wound up shipping me two copies, if you want to contact me via PM about it.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:51 am
by Der Spieler
Just watched Beyond a Reasonable Doubt on my TV (32 inches HD) and it looked OK. Not mediocre, but not too good either. It was a little on the soft side, overly bright and interlaced, with quite a few instances of combing. The print itself was not in the best of shapes, but certainly watchable. I doubt very much though that anyone seeing this on a bigger screen will get a good image. This transfer is very inferior to While the City Sleeps by the same company. Still glad we got a release at all (that's not 25$ for a shitty CD-R).
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:23 am
by matrixschmatrix
Could you take a screenshot to compare with the Warner Archive ones on DVDBeaver?
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:56 pm
by Frankinho007
A friend of mine took the screengrabs and i made
a comparison between the Exposure disc and the WAC disc.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:15 pm
by Der Spieler
I don't know what your friend used to take the shots but I sure know it didn't look THAT shitty on my screen.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:15 pm
by antnield
The Digital Fix on the Exposure edition of
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:23 pm
by Der Spieler
The review sums things up pretty well: not the best release in town, but still worth checking out.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:43 pm
by perkizitore
Compared to the other editions it is the best!
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:13 am
by The Elegant Dandy Fop
But wasn't this one of his films made in SuperScope? This DVD is 1:33. The odd amount of headspace over the characters leads me to believe this wasn't exactly made for Academy ratio, no?
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:14 am
by domino harvey
Open matte, no?
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:20 pm
by Der Spieler
The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:But wasn't this one of his films made in SuperScope? This DVD is 1:33. The odd amount of headspace over the characters leads me to believe this wasn't exactly made for Academy ratio, no?
I don't believe it was, even though Exposure are very firm about it.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:46 pm
by HJackson
Der Spieler wrote:I don't know what your friend used to take the shots but I sure know it didn't look THAT shitty on my screen.
I'll second that. I just got done watching it and it was fine; not perfect, but adequate.
I'd just like to mention that the Region 2 Cornerstone release of
Human Desire isn't as terrible as Gregory assumed it would be a while back. The picture quality is below that offered by the two versions samples on dvdbeaver (it is still very watchable though), but it is presented in 1.33:1 and has more information on the top and bottom of the frame than the Sony and the Japanese Columbia.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:12 pm
by gcgiles1dollarbin
Der Spieler wrote:The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:But wasn't this one of his films made in SuperScope? This DVD is 1:33. The odd amount of headspace over the characters leads me to believe this wasn't exactly made for Academy ratio, no?
I don't believe it was, even though Exposure are very firm about it.
David Bordwell has
a Lang post in the middle of which he briefly discusses
BARD's AR and by way of experiment, vertically crops the 1:37 to 2.0:1 to see if it was possibly made to accommodate both ratios. As he writes, at first quoting Jacques Lourcelles in the first paragraph:
"For both this film [While the City Sleeps] and Lang’s next film, Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, the format poses a thorny problem that can be resolved only by considering aesthetic matters. The film, not shot in CinemaScope, was exhibited in Superscope (a wide format used at RKO and created through laboratory processes), and then in a normal format. Which is better? In my opinion, the wider one. Only there, for instance, do the camera movements and the newspaper-office set have their true impact. Even if the Superscope version was 'manufactured' in the lab, Lang knew that the film would be seen on the wide screen and his direction was conceived as a function of that. The same goes for Beyond a Reasonable Doubt; to cite just one instance, the first sequence showing the condemned man walking toward the electric chair is obviously conceived for the wider format."
This does lead to some intriguing speculation on how “misreadings” of films can have positive consequences. The French celebration of Lang’s 1950s films led American and British critics to reevaluate them.
The case of Beyond a Reasonable Doubt is quite parallel to that of While the City Sleeps. Released in September 1956, it too was reviewed in Variety as a non-anamorphic picture. Its U. S. publicity makes no reference to a widescreen format. But its overseas posters claim that it is in “RKO-Scope.” Huh?
By the end of 1956, the Tushinskys had split from RKO and were selling SuperScope generally. So in November 1956 RKO simply announced that it had developed “a new widescreen, anamorphic process” that would carry a ratio of 2.0:1. Historians of widescreen have assumed that this is SuperScope by another name. The same publicity announced that soon all the studio’s films would be in RKO-Scope. But RKO ceased making movies on 1 January 1957. Universal took over distributing the remaining pictures.
Again, on the basis of the posters and Lourcelles’ comments we can be confident that Beyond a Reasonable Doubt was shown in a 2.0:1 aspect ratio in some overseas markets.
Perhaps this has been well-documented elsewhere; I'd be curious to know if it has.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:13 pm
by tojoed
From Exposure on November 2nd , apparently it's digitally restored and remastered, with a booklet of essays.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:03 pm
by Der Spieler
That's awesome news!
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:22 am
by TMDaines
Can't complain about these Langs. Been waiting for someone to plug the holes with decent, fairly priced releases.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:47 pm
by HJackson
Moviemail has the release date for Secret Beyond the Door as September 15th, and an exclusive notice on their main page. I hope it isn't a mistake, as I'd like to get my hands on the film as soon as is humanly possible.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:42 pm
by knepo
I am very happy to see so many new DVD releases of Lang films. I have ordered all three Exposure titles and today I got the Scandinavian edition of You Only Live Once. I am very curious about the quality of the Scandinavian version. I wanted to find out some more about Exposure dvd's. The only info I can find on the
homepage is that a new site will come soon, and that the warehouse has been on fire.
I would like to find some info on Exposure titles. Is there a list somewhere?
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:17 pm
by Forrest Taft
knepo wrote:I am very happy to see so many new DVD releases of Lang films.
I have ordered all three Exposure titles and today I got the Scandinavian edition of You Only Live Once. I am very curious about the quality of the Scandinavian version.
It's excellent. Identical to the Studio Canal version I believe, with a very solid transfer, and a terrific featurette with Claude Chabrol as a special feature.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:20 pm
by knepo
RobertAltman wrote:It's excellent. Identical to the Studio Canal version I believe, with a very solid transfer, and a terrific featurette with Claude Chabrol as a special feature.
The transfer was great, and it was the Studio Canal edition. Will check out the featurette later.
I have had a long break from hunting movies and it is such a joy to find all these great releases now

Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:05 am
by NABOB OF NOWHERE
Coming next year from Wild Side France Big Heat on Blu and Human desire on DVD. Amongst others Nightfall/Tourneur and an edition of Night of the Hunter that threatens to supercede the Criterion with even more extras. Will update when there's more news.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:09 pm
by rainerc
The restored Metropolis will get a German release on Oct. 28 according to the F.W. Murnau Stiftung (see
http://www.metropolis2710.de/de/index.html)
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:33 pm
by HJackson
The picture quality on Exposure's Secret Beyond the Door is practically identical to the Wild Side edition, judging by the caps from the Wild Side on DVDBeaver. I'm not complaining though, since it's a wonderful film and I'm glad I've finally seen it. And I'm very grateful for the booklet - it isn't on the same level as something provided by Masters of Cinema, nor was I expecing it to be, but it's better than nothing.
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:10 pm
by Der Spieler
What? You have it already? Where d'you buy it?
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:12 pm
by perkizitore
It's a
Moviemail exclusive until November.