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Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:28 am
by mfunk9786
Roscoe wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:23 am
Well, it certainly seems to be a specific take on the roles. Denzel Washington, at age 64, and Frances McDormand at 61.
Certainly helps that life expectancy in 2019 is not 35 years old, provided this is a modern adaptation
Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:35 am
by swo17
knives wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:31 pm
Isn't that the only bad example though? One rotten egg out of six isn't so bad.
I was only thinking of that and
True Grit
Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:44 am
by knives
Boo to your opinion good sir.
Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:43 am
by dda1996a
mfunk9786 wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:15 pm
Shakespeare is cancelled
No, that's not what I meant, and I see Domino said so himself too. We already have enough Macbeth, Hamlet, Romeo & Juliet, The Tempest, Othello and maybe even King Lear. I'm no Shakespeare expert, but it would be nice seeing some less known work being adapted.
I actually like True Grit, but The Ladykillers is awful and their worst film, irregardless of how much I love the original. Hanks aside it gets nothing right, even moreso when compared to McKendrick's original.
Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:52 am
by NABOB OF NOWHERE
Roscoe wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:23 am
Well, it certainly seems to be a specific take on the roles. Denzel Washington, at age 64, and Frances McDormand at 61.
MacBeth!.. He's back and he's mean.
Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:22 pm
by nitin
The Coens’ True Grit is much better than the original film.
Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:14 am
by Slaphappy
Just as I loved John Wayne in True Grit, I think Orson Welles is a hell of a Macbeth, but both of those movies are quite flat on whole and that’s where Coen magic steps in. They know how to tell a story and how to build up characters. I really can’t remember that many Shakespeare adaptations that aren’t just a bunch of scenes stiched together with nice production values. Macbeth deserves better, because the character is all about living a charmed life with lurking sense of doom and how that combination is making him insane. Such a macabre consept should not be handled as one note as the 2015 adaptation. It deserves a Coen treatment.
Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:36 am
by dda1996a
Slaphappy wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:14 am
Just as I loved John Wayne in True Grit, I think Orson Welles is a hell of a Macbeth, but both of those movies are quite flat on whole and that’s where Coen magic steps in. They know how to tell a story and how to build up characters. I really can’t remember that many Shakespeare adaptations that aren’t just a bunch of scenes stiched together with nice production values. Macbeth deserves better, because the character is all about living a charmed life with lurking sense of doom and how that combination is making him insane. Such a macabre consept should not be handled as one note as the 2015 adaptation. It deserves a Coen treatment.
Have you watched any of Kuosawa's Shakespearian films? The only certified adaptation is Throne of Blood, but The Bad Sleep Well and Ran are brilliant as well.
Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:47 am
by Slaphappy
dda1996a wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:36 am
Have you watched any of Kuosawa's Shakespearian films? The only certified adaptation is Throne of Blood, but The Bad Sleep Well and Ran are brilliant as well.
I’ve seen Ran and it was very artsy. I really should give Throne of Blood a chance even though I’m usually bored by samurai movies which involve clan intrugue.
Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:47 pm
by diamonds
Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:27 pm
by DarkImbecile
Joel Coen wrote:I use the language of Shakespeare. I didn’t fuss around or change any of that. The only thing I did, as is common in these adaptations, some more of less, there’s a certain amount of editing. But I would say the movie is about 85% of the language in the play. There’s about 15% which has been cut.
That's really surprising; I had assumed this would be a looser adaptation, somewhere between the play itself and what they did with
O Brother, Where Art Thou?.
Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:15 pm
by domino harvey
Worth noting that Macbeth is one of Shakespeare’s shortest plays, so retaining 85% of the material will prob still make for a non-epic length adaptation
Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:24 am
by ianthemovie
DarkImbecile wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:27 pm
I had assumed this would be a looser adaptation, somewhere between the play itself and what they did with
O Brother, Where Art Thou?.
It sounds like it will be pretty "period" authentic, too, taking place in the 12th century. So for better or worse it won't be Americanized or modernized. (I guess we already have the Coen-inspired
Scotland, PA for that anyway.)
Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:16 am
by Never Cursed
This wrapped in August under strict COVID-related production protocols. The detailed description of these protocols is interesting, but of particular note at the bottom of the article is the information that the same unit manager will be working on Damien Chazelle's
Babylon, set to film at the start of next year
Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:52 pm
by aox
I completely understand that is necessary, but that is insane. The people I know in the film industry (granted on a much smaller scale) and fashion photography have reported similar situations on their sets as well. It really makes for a tense set that creates a slog of a day.
Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:26 am
by hearthesilence
aox wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:52 pm
I completely understand that is necessary, but that is insane. The people I know in the film industry (granted on a much smaller scale) and fashion photography have reported similar situations on their sets as well. It really makes for a tense set that creates a slog of a day.
With smaller productions (i.e. less people) that have maybe a month left of shooting with their full crew, I think I can understand the gamble of resuming production, especially if they're very strict about sticking to stringent guidelines (as they did on
Macbeth - dismissing those who refused to wear masks pretty much set the tone), but until a vaccine's available, personally I think it's too much of a gamble to start up a much larger and longer production from scratch, and that seems to be happening all over the place.
Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:06 pm
by aox
hearthesilence wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:26 am
aox wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:52 pm
I completely understand that is necessary, but that is insane. The people I know in the film industry (granted on a much smaller scale) and fashion photography have reported similar situations on their sets as well. It really makes for a tense set that creates a slog of a day.
With smaller productions (i.e. less people) that have maybe a month left of shooting with their full crew, I think I can understand the gamble of resuming production, especially if they're very strict about sticking to stringent guidelines (as they did on
Macbeth - dismissing those who refused to wear masks pretty much set the tone), but until a vaccine's available, personally I think it's too much of a gamble to start up a much larger and longer production from scratch, and that seems to be happening all over the place.
Wasn't Paul Schrader only five days from wrapping his shoot of his latest film before it got shut down?
Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:20 pm
by domino harvey
I thought it was even less than that. He finished shooting the remainder a few months ago though
Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:36 pm
by Never Cursed
He
took the opportunity to rewrite some of the principal dialogue scenes in a way he says benefited the film (and I believe him, given how blunt and forthcoming he is about most things, and given how much
First Reformed was improved by the on-set finessing of certain scenes).
Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:20 pm
by FrauBlucher
Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:33 am
by Maltic
You wonder if they added cigarette burns and scratches to "make it look like" Welles'
Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:20 pm
by Self
Re: Trailers for Upcoming Films
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:52 pm
by Pavel
Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 2021)
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:01 pm
by Brian C
Must have been tough to keep everyone six feet apart during filming with all the fog machines obscuring everyone’s view.
Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 2021)
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:19 pm
by soundchaser
I know it's only a minute-long teaser, but this sure looks ponderous.