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Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:57 pm
by Fus1on
If you don't like the Evil Dead films, you probably won't like DMtH either, to be honest.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:51 pm
by therewillbeblus
I think it’s different enough, but not enough to give a sure fire rec. I like it a lot, and I only really like the first Evil Dead
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:05 pm
by nicolas
I’ll check out the film via rental first, thanks guys!
The German UHD version of The Hitcher by Filmjuwelen is
atrociously encoded and they used the rather poor French IP master instead of the advertised Second Sight. This is thankfully irrelevant for most but I thought I’d add it for completeness sake.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:22 pm
by Yakushima
ryannichols7 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:50 am
watched Arrow's
The Long Good Friday (I picked up the Criterion too) and it's amazing just how good Arrow have done with the HandMade catalog*, all three UHDs they've done so far from it have been amazing
Yes and yes! It was like watching these films for the first time, a revelation. With a treasure trove of extras to top it off! I cry inside when I imagine that Arrow could make this kind of cinema their core mission - it would be a different and altogether better world for us Cinephiles.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:34 pm
by nicolas
@fus1on: The Canadian UHD of The Zone of Interest is
better than the A24 UHD with superior encoding (over 20GB more!) and no forced subtitles.
Kobe also shared a comparison between the Decal and Second Sight 4Ks of Crimes of the Future and they appear all but identical to me. Both strong, red tier discs.
@Finch: Carrie (Capelight UHD)
is slightly inferiorto Arrow’s encode and they used Shout’s worse audio as well. Arrow remains the best edition.
Plaion’s Tammy and the T-Rex is a
solid upgrade to the Vinegar Syndrome UHD.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:00 pm
by rrenault
Just a heads up that the Arrow UHD of The Long Good Friday is available at a quite reasonable price point on Rarewaves at the moment, roughly 24 euros.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:43 am
by Yakushima
Addams Family Values 4 K UHD is a revelation. Based on the previous home video iterations, I always suspected that compared to the first Addams Family, the second part must have been shot using inferior film stock. Not so. My eyes popped when I watched this new UHD version - so much texture, colors and details came to life. The grain is there, but I suspect they did apply some DNR. Luckily, it's not too obtrusive. All in all, I would put this disc in a reference category.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 5:16 am
by Titch
After all the conjecture on the 4K UHD To Catch A Thief
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/commun ... 325/page-8
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:19 pm
by nicolas
The Crimson Rivers (Gaumont Import) has English subtitles and is a
solid upgrade to the very good old master.
Born on the Fourth of July (Shout) is a
red tier disc and as expected a big upgrade to the old master. Turbine in Germany upscaled and added fake grain to the old master to make it look remastered. Shout’s finer grain and new grade is therefore not an issue on that end, although I assume people will debate the color changes Stone made due to the strong red/pink push of the old telecine master which was most likely not intended similar to Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
We Were Soldiers is another
poor encode from Paramount but the audio received a massive upgrade from a lossy mix that’s on the old BD to a DTS-HD 5.1 track which, according to HD Movie Source is incredible and dynamic. (I’m not a fan of their takes on video quality but I think they’re quite on point when it comes to audio). I’ve also just learned that the Paramount BD was still MPEG-2, so maybe this should be considered a solid upgrade after all.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:14 am
by nicolas
I’ve looked at The Third Man (SC) and to my surprise and slight disappointment, it’s barely an upgrade after the stellar 2015 BD. HDR is subtle and tasteful and FiM’s encode beautiful, but detail-wise, unlike the recent Ealing UHDs and The African Queen, there’s barely any gain from the format upgrade. I’ve collected some more thoughts
here. I need to clarify that it’s not a disappointing release due to the HDR and encode, just not as exciting and definitive as it could’ve been due to the master.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:13 pm
by tenia
I can still confirm, and provide screencaptures demonstrating that, that what Charlotte is talking about isn't what ended up on the disc, whatever the reason for that is.
I can provide timecodes for 24 shots not sourced from this 2017-2024 work, and there are plent more like these. At this point, I'd argue at least half of the UHD is recycled from the basis of what sourced the 2012 BD, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn it's actually closer to 80%.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:12 pm
by Finch
A Simple Plan (Arrow)
Screenshot link in the OP
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:11 pm
by nicolas
nicolas wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:14 am
I’ve looked at The Third Man (SC) and to my surprise and slight disappointment, it’s barely an upgrade after the stellar 2015 BD. HDR is subtle and tasteful and FiM’s encode beautiful, but detail-wise, unlike the recent Ealing UHDs and The African Queen, there’s barely any gain from the format upgrade. I’ve collected some more thoughts
here. I need to clarify that it’s not a disappointing release due to the HDR and encode, just not as exciting and definitive as it could’ve been due to the master.
Huge update re. The Third Man which I failed to notice when checking my copy. Credit to M A for finding out that the new 2024 BD & UHD of the film actually contains much superior audio (likely the old Criterion DVD mix) after the lacking 2015 mix. I did a rudimentary
comparison with both discs and can confirm the reports. I didn't bother after people who attended theatrical showings confirmed SC reused the 2015 mix there.
Edit: Kobe posted a more detailed comparison
here.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:14 pm
by tenia
Oh, so it might not be the 2015 track after all !
Might be worth checking the timecodes mentioned on blah-ray.blogspot to listen if this is the same content with a different mastering or if it is a different corrected mix altogether.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:16 pm
by nicolas
tenia wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:14 pm
Oh, so it might not be the 2015 track after all !
Might be worth checking the timecodes mentioned on blah-ray.blogspot to listen if this is the same content with a different mastering or if it is a different corrected mix altogether.
I'll check and report back.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:23 pm
by nicolas
tenia wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:14 pm
Oh, so it might not be the 2015 track after all !
Might be worth checking the timecodes mentioned on blah-ray.blogspot to listen if this is the same content with a different mastering or if it is a different corrected mix altogether.
The issues are ALL
fixed.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:30 pm
by nicolas
White Christmas (Paramount) is a
solid upgrade with improved colors, framing and surprisingly solid, but not perfect encoding.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 6:21 pm
by tenia
nicolas wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:23 pm
tenia wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:14 pm
Oh, so it might not be the 2015 track after all !
Might be worth checking the timecodes mentioned on blah-ray.blogspot to listen if this is the same content with a different mastering or if it is a different corrected mix altogether.
The issues are ALL
fixed.
Oh wow, I guess I might be in for an upgrade after all !
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:10 pm
by nicolas
The Terminator
4K screenshots. No miracles here. AI upscale of the previous 2K master, sometimes more prominent, sometimes less. Someone who saw the 4K mentioned that the AI algorithm was improved, which sets the film apart from Cameron's other films but does that make all this a genuinely solid upgrade? We'll see. Audio comparison
here. Doesn't the UHD audio look horrifyingly poor compared to the LaserDisc and even the filtered DVD?
Update: People at BR reported that the original US mono is included, not the international one that was on subsequent editions.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 4:37 am
by Finch
Blazing Saddles (WB)
review
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:08 pm
by Finch
Trick or Treat (Arrow)
review
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:25 pm
by rberrios15
Rewatched several more and propose the following for Solid Tier of contemporary list:
A Star Is Born 2018 (WB)
Creed (WB)
Inside Out (Disney)
The Post (Fox)
Widows (Fox)
Wonder Woman (WB)
Welcome any thoughts!
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:56 pm
by nicolas
Trainspotting (Film4, UK) is
disappointing. The Criterion 4K is better.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:45 pm
by nicolas
Tesis (Umbrella AU) is
disappointing due to them using DVD-quality lossy audio and are not doing a replacement program. Severin are apparently releasing this in the US.
Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery is
reference.
A Better Tomorrow (Disk Kino / WCL Import) is solid. Professorwho’s incredible review and caps are
here. In brief: They’re working off a flawed Ritrovata master just like Kino and the Leone films and improved the grading, HDR and added a great-sounding OG mono mix in addition to English subs, which are flawed though with grammatical errors. This is a LE to 800x and unlikely to emerge internationally due to the complicated rights situation Woo’s films are in.
For fus1on: Turbine’s Renfield 4K (UK & Germany) is great with top marks at the other forum. I received Studiocanal’s Train to Busan and Peninsula today and both are definite red category titles with brilliant encoding and exceptional sound. The Well Go UHD of Train to Busan is blue category as it’s not as detailed and well-encoded as the SC. (No idea about their Peninsula disc).
Rberrios suggested some titles and I agree with solid for Creed but can’t comment on the others.
Re: UHD New Releases, Reissues and Upgrades
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:46 pm
by Fus1on
Added all of the recent suggestions from Nicolas and Rberrios15.