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Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:28 pm
by jazzo
I'm calling it right now: Little Darlings

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:31 pm
by JSC
I'm going to say Oh! What a Lovely War. It was Richard Attenborough's directorial
debut and released by Paramount. It's never had a blu-ray release and also, it's probably
the kind of film that warrants a 4K upgrade with it's famous closing image, etc.

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:39 pm
by beamish14
Deadhead Miles fits the bill

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:41 pm
by jazzo
I suppose Little Darlings couldn't be called "significant" to anyone but a bunch of girls and sensitive boys born between 1968 and 1974, so you may be right. But I'm crossing those fingers and toes!

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:46 pm
by yoloswegmaster
yoloswegmaster wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:08 pm The hint for the first title in the Cinématographe line:
...a significant Paramount film which we’ve upgraded to 4K UHD; a stirring feature directorial debut which has inexplicably been overlooked on disc.
I think these may be 2 seperate clues for 2 different titles, as 2 titles for this line will be announced next month. However, the email doesn't make it clear so I could be wrong.

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Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:52 pm
by MichaelB
jazzo wrote:I suppose Little Darlings couldn't be called "significant" to anyone but a bunch of girls and sensitive boys born between 1968 and 1974, so you may be right. But I'm crossing those fingers and toes!
It’s marginally significant to me, because it was the first film I ever sneaked into underage in the cinema. And I’d also quite like to see it again now that I know that the same cinematographer shot, believe it or not,
Spoiler
Marketa Lazarová.
But I admittedly haven’t put in much effort to see it again.

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:59 pm
by beamish14
MichaelB wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:52 pm
jazzo wrote:I suppose Little Darlings couldn't be called "significant" to anyone but a bunch of girls and sensitive boys born between 1968 and 1974, so you may be right. But I'm crossing those fingers and toes!
It’s marginally significant to me, because it was the first film I ever sneaked into underage in the cinema. And I’d also quite like to see it again now that I know that the same cinematographer shot, believe it or not,
Spoiler
Marketa Lazarová.
But I admittedly haven’t put in much effort to see it again.

I think it holds up incredibly well. A movie that doesn’t offer any simple platitudes about growing up or taking your first tentative steps towards forming a romantic relationships. It’s definitely developed a big queer cult following as well due to 3 of the actresses in it (who are all excellent, as is Matt Dillon, just off of Over the Edge)

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:00 pm
by jazzo
Yeah, I love it.

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:10 pm
by okcmaxk
It's got some needle drop all-timers: Supertramp's "School," Lennon's "Oh My Love," but maybe not "Let Your Love Flow" (replacement for "Here Comes the Sun" when it couldn't clear).

My mom saw in theaters and would bring it up a lot when favorite movie talk came around––was blown away on first watch by the McNichol-Dillon scenes. The Armand Assante subplot's touchy, but Maxwell forgets about it for a while.

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:14 pm
by domino harvey
I like it a lot too, but the writeup implies that the director is someone who is more well-known (but, then again, VS does have a fondness for puffery that doesn't really pan out once announced...)

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:15 pm
by beamish14
okcmaxk wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:10 pm It's got some needle drop all-timers: Supertramp's "School," Lennon's "Oh My Love," but maybe not "Let Your Love Flow" (replacement for "Here Comes the Sun" when it couldn't clear).

My mom saw in theaters and would bring it up a lot when favorite movie talk came around––was blown away on first watch by the McNichol-Dillon scenes. The Armand Assante subplot's touchy, but Maxwell forgets about it for a while.

I think it was the first film to use Blondie’s now-overplayed “One Way or Another”, which is heard in almost its entirety

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:42 pm
by TechnicolorAcid
I don’t think it’s Little Darlings, because it’s not a directorial debut considering Ronald Maxwell directed a TV movie before this, unless it’s strictly referring to theatrical works. Would Real Life work? It’s a directorial debut from a renowned director and is owned by Paramount.

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:07 pm
by JabbaTheSlut
I think you’re right.
yoloswegmaster wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:46 pm
yoloswegmaster wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:08 pm The hint for the first title in the Cinématographe line:
...a significant Paramount film which we’ve upgraded to 4K UHD; a stirring feature directorial debut which has inexplicably been overlooked on disc.
I think these may be 2 seperate clues for 2 different titles, as 2 titles for this line will be announced next month. However, the email doesn't make it clear so I could be wrong.

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Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:13 pm
by okcmaxk
TechnicolorAcid wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:42 pm Would Real Life work?
Always thought it’d be Criterion, but you’re onto something:

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Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:28 pm
by senseabove
yoloswegmaster wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:46 pm I think these may be 2 seperate clues for 2 different titles, as 2 titles for this line will be announced next month. However, the email doesn't make it clear so I could be wrong.
I thought that at first, too, hoping it could still be a confirmation for Goodbar, but since it's preceded by "a [singular] real doozy," I think whoever wrote it just doesn't understand semicolons. The complete sentence:
We’ve selected a real doozy to kick off the line; a significant Paramount film which we’ve upgraded to 4K UHD; a stirring feature directorial debut which has inexplicably been overlooked on disc.

Either way, a heavy sigh for the lost art of copy editing;;;

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:07 am
by knives
Bit of a stretch, but Paramount now owns Enter Laughing.

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:15 am
by beamish14
knives wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:07 am Bit of a stretch, but Paramount now owns Enter Laughing.

Interesting! I love that and The Comic

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:04 pm
by TechnicolorAcid
Some info about the pricing from THAT forum!
Don't be too concerned with the price, it'll be in the same price range as typical VS limited editions with slipcases.
So I’m guessing this will probably be around the 30 to 35 dollar range so that’s not… terrible I guess.

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:00 pm
by okcmaxk
Someone guessed Bad Company on the other site. Not really "significant" for Paramount, but fits the description. Robert Benton's getting up there (and was nowhere on the Nobody's Fool extras last year), so it'd be great to hear his memories of filming with someone like Hemphill moderating.

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:27 am
by beamish14
okcmaxk wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:00 pm Someone guessed Bad Company on the other site. Not really "significant" for Paramount, but fits the description. Robert Benton's getting up there (and was nowhere on the Nobody's Fool extras last year), so it'd be great to hear his memories of filming with someone like Hemphill moderating.
A great guess, and I forgot that it was his directorial debut. He declined to be involved with Indicator and Kino Lorber’s releases of films he has worked on

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:22 am
by MichaelB
News to me. Which Indicator release did he decline to contribute to?

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:24 am
by domino harvey
Maybe they meant Imprint (which released Twilight)?

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:28 am
by TechnicolorAcid
The new Vinegar Syndrome Labs release is going to be an 80s Polish masterpiece in it's English language debut. Chances are that it's probably going to be Sexmission but we'll just have to wait and see.

Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:44 am
by MichaelB
I immediately assumed Sexmission, partly because of the symbol, but mostly because there really aren’t that many other 1980s Polish titles that would be plausible Vinegar Syndrome releases!

Although I daresay The Curse of Snake Valley has potential there too, but the symbol doesn’t fit in the same way. It’s also decidedly not a masterpiece, unless “masterpiece” is synonymous with “gave its name to the Snakes, the Polish equivalent of the Razzies”.

(I have no involvement with this release, whatever it turns out to be.)

Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:00 pm
by Aunt Peg
The Polish Blu Ray of Sex Mission has English subtitles. I really enjoyed it back in the 1980s at a crowded film festival screening but watching it again recently at home it really hasn't aged well.