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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:51 pm
by Antoine Doinel
Belmondo wrote:David Ehrenstein wrote:It also has the "traditional" issue of characters bursting into song which movie audiences no longer accept.
Don't be ridiculous. Have you ever heard of a little phenom called
High School Musical?
The notion that that audiences "won't accept" actors "bursting into song" is a noxious bugaboo that should have been buried ages ago.
Yes, I have heard of "High School Musical", but I am disinclined to talk about Disney and Scorsese at the same time
You might be "disinclined" but Scorsese did ostensibly make a film for them (
Gangs Of New York).
Furthermore, it wasn't all that long ago that
Chicago took home the Best Picture award. In addition, you don't really have to look much further than the reality show looking for the newest lead characters in Grease to see that people still willingly "accept" people "bursting into song". And you will see further acceptance once Johnny Depp does the same in
Sweeney Todd later this year.
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:02 pm
by David Ehrenstein
The first film I ever saw was Singin' in the Rain, when it opened at Radio City Music Hall back in 1952.
I was five years old.
Naively, I expected all movies would be as good. Boy was I ever wrong! With a few striking exceptions its been all downhill since 1952.
And because of Singin' in the Rain I find it unrealistic when characters in films DON'T break into song.
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:58 pm
by devlinnn
Amen to that. Deep down, aren't we all bursting into song every time we walk down the street, do the dishes, collect the bins or tickle the fancy? Or is this due also to Singin' in the Rain and Wizard of Oz on the big screen at age 3-4 in the early 70s?
For someone who has been in the game for as long as Scorsese, his innocence and genuine sincerity at finally being 'accepted' by winning big one shines through in those photos. He looks like a child again, who has finally discovered Oz, after years on the yellow brick road....
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:28 pm
by Robert de la Cheyniest
While we're at it, is Columbia/Sony ever going to release a new edition of Taxi Driver? I've been holding off buying the current edish for a while. We all know the transfer could be improved.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:38 pm
by Matt
moreysurf8 wrote:While we're at it, is Columbia/Sony ever going to release a new edition of Taxi Driver? I've been holding off buying the current edish for a while. We all know the transfer could be improved.
I'm sure the next edition will be for HD. You could always get the
Japanese Superbit.
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:15 pm
by Antoine Doinel
The Independent has a great
profile on Thelma Schoonmaker.
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:00 pm
by Matt
Associated Press sez Scorsese's next is
The Silence, but it won't shoot until summer '08. He's currently wrapping up the Stones doc (set for a September 14 release).
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:08 pm
by Jeff
Matt wrote:Associated Press sez Scorsese's next is
The Silence, but it won't shoot until summer '08. He's currently wrapping up the Stones doc (set for a September 14 release).
Sounds good. Scorsese says, "It raises a lot of questions about foreign cultures coming in and imposing their way of thinking on another culture they know nothing about." I know he's taking a dig at American foreign policy here, and I have not read
Silence, so I don't know if this is at all appropriate, but I'm really hoping he goes for the vibe of the Powell & Pressburger films he is so fond of with this one.
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:54 pm
by patrick
I was just commenting on Casino elsewhere -which I still think is Scorsese's last great movie. The musical soundtrack is relentless - it just never stops - and clearly foreshadows PTA's terrific Boogie Nights. Both these movies are musicals in some meta-musical sense. (Just as Walters can do Dreyer as Judy singing Harry Warren and Mack Gordon.)
Casino's soundtrack definitely elevates the whole movie, the use of Devo's cover of "Satisfaction" is especially great. Compare that to The Departed, which had the cliched (but still effective) use of "Gimme Shelter" and then that terrible "Comfortably Numb" cover.
Still, I don't know if Scorsese has done anything as good as the opening shot of Boogie Nights set to "Best of My Love" since Goodfellas.
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:21 am
by Hai2u
patrick wrote: that terrible "Comfortably Numb" cover.
eh, I like it

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:07 am
by flyonthewall2983
I love it now.
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:11 am
by devlinnn
I guess the Dean Martin project/musical-bio-pic has been completely shelved, which is a damn shame. All the themes and ingredients that Scorsese has spent his life dealing with are here - growing up as an Italian/American; the male vs. male ego-bondship; empty sexual obsession; Golden period Hollywood; public image; and music, music, music.
Or maybe he's just waiting for DeNiro to age a little longer. For we get a glimpse of how great this film could be with the last images in Casino, with DeNiro (as Deano) and those sunnies, accepting fate's hand.
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:49 pm
by Matt
Unfortunately, Dean was always supposed to have been played by Tom Hanks.
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:43 pm
by Antoine Doinel
Egad.....perhaps we're better off.
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:53 pm
by Matt
Antoine Doinel wrote:Egad.....perhaps we're better off.
Oh, it gets worse. Travolta was to play Sinatra, Jim Carrey was to play Jerry Lewis, and Adam Sandler was being considered for the role of Joey Bishop. Here's an
ancient news item to that effect, and here's an
interview with Scorsese (circa the release of
The Aviator where he discusses what happened to the project.
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:54 pm
by Antoine Doinel
That casting sounds like a bad SNL sketch.
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:13 pm
by flyonthewall2983
Who would you cast?
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:42 pm
by Antoine Doinel
I think Richard Gere would be a great Dean Martin.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:15 am
by devlinnn
Thanks for the link Matt. The last quote is interesting -
'I actually thought the strongest story there beyond the Rat Pack thing, before that was his relationship with Jerry Lewis and the creative relationship and how that worked out. Ultimately, having gone through such fame, having such a close working relationship, how he then pulled back seemingly creatively, seemingly, and had gone through such a close relationship - like a marriage. That's a very strong thing. That's really the story, I think. And it's the story of creative collaboration whether you're writers or painters or composers, musicians, anything, filmmakers, comedians. This is it. This is the story of two people and how they worked together over the years.'
From what I've read, this may be the autobiographical story arc DeNiro wants to sort out with Scorsese over the next few years.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:20 am
by patrick
I think Jim Carrey would actually be a good choice to play Jerry Lewis, given his apparent skill for mimicry.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:31 am
by devlinnn
flyonthewall2983 wrote:Who would you cast?
Personally, I would set it in the late 80s/90s, with DeNiro as old Dino, spending most of the movie sitting alone in restaurants with his thoughts, beer and cold meats, as family, friends and fans come, bother and go. The occasional flashback; cuts into dreamland; lots of space; a low budget piece on blanking out creatively, spiritually and emotionally from everything and everyone - the long, empty wait.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:13 am
by patrick
Oddly enough, that's how I imagine Jerry Lewis today.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:30 am
by justeleblanc
patrick wrote:I think Jim Carrey would actually be a good choice to play Jerry Lewis, given his apparent skill for mimicry.
Go with Peter Bogdanovich -- he can play both Martin and Lewis.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 6:55 am
by Dylan
justeleblanc wrote:patrick wrote:I think Jim Carrey would actually be a good choice to play Jerry Lewis, given his apparent skill for mimicry.
Go with Peter Bogdanovich -- he can play both Martin and Lewis.
Alright, I have to know, where did you hear Bogdanovich doing Martin and Lewis impersonations?
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:16 am
by Jeff
Matt wrote:Associated Press sez Scorsese's next is
The Silence, but it won't shoot until summer '08. He's currently wrapping up the Stones doc (set for a September 14 release).
It looks like
Silence has been postponed again.
Nikki Finke reports that Scorsese is set to direct DeNiro in
The Winter of Frankie Machine just as soon as he wraps things up on
Shine a Light.