826 The New World

[Barmy]

I'm sure we will be seeing "star" Ben Chaplin in his next flick!

[Fletch F. Fletch]

I'm sure we will be seeing "star" Ben Chaplin in his next flick!

Hey now, surely you're forgetting about his "breakout" turn in The Truth about Cats and Dogs? Genius!

[Fletch F. Fletch]

Weird...

From DavisDVD:

Smells of box office desperation are global. Japanese company NTT Communications Corp will install fragrance-releasing equipment (read: giant Glade Plug-Ins) in several Japanese theaters premiering New Line's The New World later this month. According to Kyodo News, the scent generators will be located under "aroma premium seats" and will mix different herbs and oils during seven key scenes. Unlike the 1960's Smell-O-Vision however, the scents will enhance the senses and not try to match the fragrances onscreen. The company also plans to produce a $620 home version to synchronize with DVDs.

[Fletch F. Fletch]

Does anyone have any information on whether the longer editions of The New World will ever see the light of day on DVD?

My understanding is that there are three different cuts of the film:

(1) 150-minute cut screened in New York and Los Angeles.
(2) 135-minute cut supposedly sanctioned by Malick for wider distribution and recently released on DVD.
(3) And an even longer 3+ hour cut.

Even though the 15 minutes cut for wider distribution didn't catastrophically change the film, it was still irksome to see a sped up opening credits and many gorgeous images excised.

I've been lurking on a Yahoo Group dedicated to Malick and supposedly there are no longer any plans to release the 150-minute cut because the film performed so poorly at the box office. So, I think that what is out now is all we're gonna see for awhile.

[Antoine Doinel]

This thread mentions a potential HD-DVD cut of the extended version this fall among the the many rumors gathered together: http://www.movie-page.com/board/viewtop ... 0672e28699

[Barmy]

When the producer appeared at Walter Reade early this year for a "special" screening of the Academy version, she basically said it would disappear forever. No DVD. Terrence didn't like it. Blah blah blah. She did say that a longer version would appear on DVD--maybe 30 minutes or so longer than the Academy version.

[Fletch F. Fletch]

a nice comparison between the two versions is online

[Barmy]

He loses a bit o' credibility with that Kubrick comparison.

[Antoine Doinel]

Looks like the extended New World is coming. From DavisDVD today:

The New World - Extended Edition
Looks like the rumors of an extended edition of The New World coming to DVD were true after all. Among the current projects over at audio mixing house Mi Casa Multimedia is the 150-min. extended version of Terence Malick's "Pocahontas" tale, currently being mastered in 5.1 and 2.0 Surround, as well as a new restoration and remixing of the original A Nightmare on Elm Street in 6.1, 5.1 and 2.0 Surround (no doubt for a new special edition). Both projects are for New Line Home Entertainment and will likely see release later this year or early next.

[Barmy]

150 minutes is not "extended". That's the length of the Academy version.

Anyway who cares, thank GOD "Nightmare" is being restored.

[Fletch F. Fletch]

150 minutes is not "extended". That's the length of the Academy version.

Anyway who cares, thank GOD "Nightmare" is being restored.

Yeah, Johnny Depp fans will be pleased... I mean between that and 21 Jump Street FINALLY getting released on DVD...

[hearthesilence]

I finally saw this. I went in with modest expectations, but you know what? There's a great silent film here. Seriously, freed of the expectations of dialogue, if you approach it like, say, Sunrise, there's a lot to love. Some of it comes off hokey, and the ending is still hazy and rushed, but everything else falls into place. Even the weak plotting (like how they set up their settlement and how everything falls apart) gets smoothed over when you just focus on the visuals and what they reveal, and there's some gorgeous storytelling in there: after immersing himself in a gorgeous, new land, Smith returns to the fort and experiences a sudden violent shift within the confines of the English fort, all within a long unbroken shot - and once you're inside, you get the impression civilization doesn't prevent savagery, it just makes it more methodical.

Now, some of the ideas seem simplistic...

Hmmm... Very like THIN RED LINE... He is seems to be looking at indigenous ethnic groups through the same viewfinder - emphasising the parallels rather than anthropological distinction... Could be problematical, but too early to say...

Smith talks about the natives having no want, etc...to be fair, maybe Smith is just getting caught up in pie-eyed naivete because later on, you have the bit with the copper pot, but watching how Malick constructs the scene where Smith acquaints himself with the natives, I think Malick believes this a little too much. Still, his idealism can be infectious considering how GORGEOUS those scenes are, and while they're definitely sentimental, they're not too sappy for my tastes.

Not a perfect movie, probably the weakest of his four 'official' works, but there's definitely an AMAZING film buried in here, even if it doesn't quite come together.

[BusterK.]

The New World's 150 min uncut version (the one that was screened in LA and NY before being cut for a wider release) is available exclusively in Italy in a 2 disc set. Some folks at Dvdclassic even say there's a R1 release planned for 2007. Anyone has more infos?

[Matt]

The New World's 150 min uncut version (the one that was screened in LA and NY before being cut for a wider release) is available exclusively in Italy in a 2 disc set. Some folks at Dvdclassic even say there's a R1 release planned for 2007. Anyone has more infos?

That package has the New Line logo on it, so I would assume they provided the transfer (or at least the elements to make the transfer). I wouldn't think they'd go through that expense for such a small market as Italy if there weren't plans to release it in North America.

[Oedipax]

Any further word on the rumored third cut Malick was going to do for DVD? Seems strange to think there would be a DVD of a Malick film with three cuts included, but who knows...

[Barmy]

So I guess the producers lied when they told an audience where I was in attendance that the 150 minute version would never be seen again. That it was both too short and too long. That Terry preferred the shorter version, but also wanted to give the public access to a longer version via DVD. All as part of their pathetic attempt to justify the existence of the eviscerated version.

[Michael]

I think a pure emotion reading of a film, one where you let yourself be taken in by it, can be the best reading.

I can't believe I let The New World sweep by me for so long. It's playing on Cinemax throughout this month so I gave it a shot last night. What a staggering, overwhelming film! How this film crumbled away while the hype surrounding Crash and Brokeback Mountain managed to stay brightly, fiercely lit during the last award season is way beyond my imagination.. and terribly heartbreaking and criminal.

I remain a total mess from the film's silencing, haunting power that keeps consuming me long after the beautiful final credits dissolved. So that's why I completely agree with chaddoli's words (above). It's very overwhelming in every sense. What most people don't realize or possibly ignore is how much that most luminous actress Q'Orianka Kilcher carried that film on her back. It's really her film.

Gary from DVDBeaver couldn't say better about The New World: "Masterpiece is an understatement".

This past weekend was really something for me: Celine and Julie Go Boating, Ugetsu and The New World all for the first time.

[BusterK.]

I truly believe The New World will be the kind of movie that will be shown in Cinematheques 100 years from now. A pure work of art, emotionally honest, slowly paced, beautifully photographed with an elliptical form that gives a sense of cosmic harmony.

[Floyd]

I don't know what to make of this film still but it was one of the most important experiences I had going to a see a film in the cinema I think. I am happy I did. The thing that still resonates with me all of these months after I saw it is the scene when Pocahontas does the cartwheel. It made the film most special to me.

[Titus]

There still may be hope that the three hour cut will surface according to this.

[Greathinker]

I'll join in by saying that I was floored by this film as well, and how sad it is that modern audiences are so apathetic and numb to something like this. If there's a key scene that ties it all together in my mind it's when Pocahontas is en route towards Spain and her friend says to her that he will have to find this god that the people speak of, and then continues to wander around the ship. I can't think of a recent film that has shown itself to be so technically and artistically competent outside of Cronenberg and Herzog's work-- maybe I'm just ignorant of modern cinema, but such films grab my attention and make everything else seem unbelievably bland.

[miless]

well, there are quite a few filmmakers that are currently working that show a technical and artistic competence... to name a few: Van Sant, Tarr, Cuarón (IMO), Haneke, Lynch, Todd Haynes, etc... (yet all of these are quite established)
and, in my opinion, Herzog has kind of lost a lot of what he once had... you know, that explossive power (I think it was all those years making Fitzcarraldo that did him in... the same thing with Coppola and Apocalypse Now)

[Person]

I have yet to see The New World. Those few that I trust say that it is tedious. But I'll stick it on my rental list. Apocalypto is also on the list. I'm a big fan of Bruce Beresford's, The Black Robe (1991).

[patrick]

The New World is an incredible film and it only gets better each time I watch it. It's a shame that the prerelease cut will probably never be available on home video, but I assume Malick is the type of director who would only want one version of his work floating around - the same goes for the original cut of The Thin Red Line.

[jaredsap]

The New World is an incredible film and it only gets better each time I watch it. It's a shame that the prerelease cut will probably never be available on home video, but I assume Malick is the type of director who would only want one version of his work floating around

Sarah Green, Malick's producer on THE NEW WORLD, has publicly said that what you're referring to as the "pre-release" cut will "always exist." (And it's not actually a pre-release cut -- it was released in NY and LA.) Green has also said that New Line agreed to release a third, even longer (than the 155 min. NY/LA) cut on DVD.

So I'd be surprised if we don't eventually get THE NEW WORLD: SE with at least one cut that differs from the disc New Line already has out (the "nationwide release" cut).