Page 5 of 6
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows and Written on the Wind
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:14 am
by Norbie
Why the weird aspect ration of 1.75, and not the normal 1.78, 1.66, or 1.85?
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows and Written on the Wind
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:52 am
by tenia
1.75 actually was a thing, back in those days. For instance, see A Hard Day's Night.
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows and Written on the Wind
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:42 pm
by djproject
Remember in the fifties, you had a variety of options for the soft widescreen (matting top and bottom portions of a projected 35mm film) due to theatre sizes. I also remember seeing that 1.75:1 was common for British theatres (which I know doesn't quite explain why it was chosen for this title).
(Speaking of aspect ratios, my theory for why Europeans tended to go for 1.66:1 ... if it was the supposedly the widest you can project in a pre-existing theatre, then it was a reason to go wide and still keep the old theatre houses and therefore not renovate them.)
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows and Written on the Wind
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:59 pm
by EddieLarkin
Just about every ratio under the sun was tried out between 1953 and 1955, so 1.75:1 isn't unusual, but for this film there is historical documentation suggesting 1.85:1 as the intended AR. When asked why Criterion had gone 1.75:1 instead I believe they said they felt it was best following "an examination of the materials".
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows and Written on the Wind
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:32 pm
by djproject
EddieLarkin wrote:Just about every ratio under the sun was tried out between 1953 and 1955, so 1.75:1 isn't unusual, but for this film there is historical documentation suggesting 1.85:1 as the intended AR. When asked why Criterion had gone 1.75:1 instead I believe they said they felt it was best following "an examination of the materials".
If it was a "shoot and protect" situation, I could imagine the 1.75:1 is a nice in between among the widescreen aspect ratios (1.33:1 was never an option for this one).
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows and Written on the Wind
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:44 pm
by Fred Holywell
Probably because it was a compromise between 1.66 and 1.85, 1.75 was popular in Hollywood for a while -- notably at Disney and MGM (MGM called it Metroscope). Not sure if Universal used it as a rule. I thought they were more inclined to go with 1.85 or 2:1.
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows and Written on the Wind
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:05 pm
by FrauBlucher
If this is indeed getting announced, I would have to imagine that they will add new supplements. It definitely deserves more than what's on the DVD edition
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows and Written on the Wind
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:43 pm
by swo17
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:46 pm
by domino harvey
They sat on the Blu for years to only produce one new special feature? Classic Criterion
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:51 pm
by soundchaser
I was gonna say, if this is the same transfer that was released in France (which I assume it is), don’t expect anything revelatory. Baffling it’s taken this long.
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:31 am
by swo17
Random thing I just noticed: The new
Acting for Douglas Sirk feature is an excerpt from a 1980 documentary by Eckhart Schmidt, whose follow-up was this madness:

Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:33 am
by therewillbeblus
Well color me intrigued, Der Fan rules
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:34 am
by swo17
I'm sure this will be very similar
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:42 am
by therewillbeblus
Hey, maybe it's an obsessive avant-garde doc forecasting the themes of his fictitious work
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:02 am
by domino harvey
Will this also replay the same song over and over for 100 minutes?

Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:34 pm
by ChunkyLover
soundchaser wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:51 pm
I was gonna say, if this is the same transfer that was released in France (which I assume it is), don’t expect anything revelatory. Baffling it’s taken this long.
I don't think it will be. The French master was in a 2.00 aspect ratio and the video clip on Criterion's site is in a 1.85 aspect ratio; plus, the caps don't really show the harsh digital look that was present on the French disc.
swo17 wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:34 am
I'm sure this will be very similar
The doc was on Eureka's "The Tarnished Angels" and it's pretty straightforward. It is sad seeing an obviously ill Rock Hudson during his interview bits.
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:29 pm
by swo17
ChunkyLover wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:34 pm
The doc was on Eureka's "The Tarnished Angels" and it's pretty straightforward.
Ah, but it takes on a whole new feel when you realize that the interview subjects were being held against their will!
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:11 pm
by tenia
soundchaser wrote:I was gonna say, if this is the same transfer that was released in France (which I assume it is), don’t expect anything revelatory. Baffling it’s taken this long.
I suspect that the master used in France is an old High def one that wouldn't be stated as a 2K restoration per Criterion's usual wording.
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:49 pm
by tenia
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:47 pm
by onedimension
Are the clips and stills on the Criterion website usually taken from the new edition? The one for Wind looks pretty good, to my eye, great grain. Maybe not "revelatory", but a massive step up from the DVD.
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:27 pm
by britcom68
Just announced as part of the Wexner Center Cinema Revival Festival For feb 2022:
https://wexarts.org/film-video/written-wind
The site listing says the Lee Klien will introduce the film before it's showing (does not specify if this is pre-recorded, or zoom or in-person). The technical spces is that what will be shown is 4k Newly restored from the original 35mm Technicolor camera negative by The Criterion Collection. Special thanks to Universal Pictures.
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:32 pm
by yoloswegmaster
The 4K listing must be an error as the blu is being sourced from a 2K restoration.
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:38 pm
by Finch
James Luckard took caps for Blu-Ray.com and they're not watermarked like the official ones are. The Criterion disc looks marvelous.
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:37 pm
by Maltic
What is Luckard referring to when he says people dislike VLC player (as opposed to Media Player Classic)?
Re: 95-96 All That Heaven Allows & Written on the Wind
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:41 pm
by DeprongMori
Maltic wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:37 pm
What is Luckard referring to when he says people dislike VLC player (as opposed to Media Player Classic)?
I just wish I could get the hack working that allows Blu-rays to be played on VLC. (But I guess that’s a question to the “Technical Issues” topic.)