Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
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MovieBuff647
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
VinSyn confirmed that FiM encoded the 4K UHD disc of MANHUNTER.
Also, people in the CIN thread on the other site—two of whom I have quoted—said to not rule out SCARECROW yet despite the NY bit.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=27
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... count=5448
And even if the CIN Black Friday title isn't SCARECROW, we do now know it is at least with a label.
Also, people in the CIN thread on the other site—two of whom I have quoted—said to not rule out SCARECROW yet despite the NY bit.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=27
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... count=5448
And even if the CIN Black Friday title isn't SCARECROW, we do now know it is at least with a label.
- mfunk9786
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
Was waffling on Manhunter and saw that the Shop app has a $10 off promo for VS... finally had to pull the trigger. And yes, it's possible to combine it with rewards/SMS coupons as it's not inherently a VS discount.
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beamish14
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
MovieBuff647 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2026 3:08 pm VinSyn confirmed that FiM encoded the 4K UHD disc of MANHUNTER.
Also, people in the CIN thread on the other site—two of whom I have quoted—said to not rule out SCARECROW yet despite the NY bit.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=27
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... count=5448
And even if the CIN Black Friday title isn't SCARECROW, we do now know it is at least with a label.
It’s crazy to me that Criterion would miss out on both Puzzle of a Downfall Child (which Kino really did an exceptional job with) and this film. Maybe they’ll get the freshly restored Reunion
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MovieBuff647
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
I could see Criterion going for PUZZLE 4K if they were open to UHD-only licenses like Arrow, Radiance, and VinSyn (and they could always sneak a BD in), but Criterion don't really do that save for sets.beamish14 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2026 3:53 pmMovieBuff647 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2026 3:08 pm VinSyn confirmed that FiM encoded the 4K UHD disc of MANHUNTER.
Also, people in the CIN thread on the other site—two of whom I have quoted—said to not rule out SCARECROW yet despite the NY bit.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=27
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... count=5448
And even if the CIN Black Friday title isn't SCARECROW, we do now know it is at least with a label.
It’s crazy to me that Criterion would miss out on both Puzzle of a Downfall Child (which Kino really did an exceptional job with) and this film. Maybe they’ll get the freshly restored Reunion
Also, REUNION is a StudioCanal title and yeah, I'd definitely lean Criterion over Kino. https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=38092
- olmo
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
Schatzberg gets his ton up in June next year, maybe Criterion are waiting on the occasion to release a collection of his films.
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MovieBuff647
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
Interesting, the one time I attempted to combine the two, it wouldn't allow me.mfunk9786 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2026 3:33 pm Was waffling on Manhunter and saw that the Shop app has a $10 off promo for VS... finally had to pull the trigger. And yes, it's possible to combine it with rewards/SMS coupons as it's not inherently a VS discount.
- mfunk9786
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
To be fair, I used an SMS 10% off code, no hands on idea about the rewards, but figured that would also work just as well. And no, I didn't get reward points credit for joining SMS, so it didn't even accomplish what I did it for in the first place - but the 10% off was nice.MovieBuff647 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2026 7:19 pmInteresting, the one time I attempted to combine the two, it wouldn't allow me.mfunk9786 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2026 3:33 pm Was waffling on Manhunter and saw that the Shop app has a $10 off promo for VS... finally had to pull the trigger. And yes, it's possible to combine it with rewards/SMS coupons as it's not inherently a VS discount.
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MovieBuff647
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
SMS makes sense but Shop will not allow you to use their in-app promos and VSMC points in the same transaction.mfunk9786 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2026 9:28 pmTo be fair, I used an SMS 10% off code, no hands on idea about the rewards, but figured that would also work just as well. And no, I didn't get reward points credit for joining SMS, so it didn't even accomplish what I did it for in the first place - but the 10% off was nice.MovieBuff647 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2026 7:19 pmInteresting, the one time I attempted to combine the two, it wouldn't allow me.mfunk9786 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2026 3:33 pm Was waffling on Manhunter and saw that the Shop app has a $10 off promo for VS... finally had to pull the trigger. And yes, it's possible to combine it with rewards/SMS coupons as it's not inherently a VS discount.
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Stefan Andersson
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
Tracks, Jaglom -- article and trailer:
https://www.indiewire.com/news/trailers ... 235225564/
"The restoration will have its theatrical premiere on November 11 /.../ at the Roxy Cinema, where Cinématographe’s Justin LaLiberty will participate in a post-screening Q&A with Jaglom’s offspring (and frequent collaborators) Simon Jaglom and Sabrina Jaglom, moderated by Taylor Purdee."
https://www.indiewire.com/news/trailers ... 235225564/
"The restoration will have its theatrical premiere on November 11 /.../ at the Roxy Cinema, where Cinématographe’s Justin LaLiberty will participate in a post-screening Q&A with Jaglom’s offspring (and frequent collaborators) Simon Jaglom and Sabrina Jaglom, moderated by Taylor Purdee."
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luxta
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- Finch
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
Friendly reminder to please post the actual image directly in your posts if it's Instagram and X accounts.
- swo17
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
But can you do that with reels?
- therewillbeblus
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I don't believe so. What film is that clip from?
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MovieBuff647
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
Stunning (in a bad way) admission by one of VinSyn's colorists https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... tcount=478
Am I excited for the prospect of 4K releases of SCARECROW and STAR 80 later this month? Absolutely yes. Am I excited for how the color gradings will look? Absolutely not.
Am I excited for the prospect of 4K releases of SCARECROW and STAR 80 later this month? Absolutely yes. Am I excited for how the color gradings will look? Absolutely not.
- Matt
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
I guess I don't see what he said that would be controversial.
- hearthesilence
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I'm guessing this:
But wouldn't this suggest he isn't doing this on VS titles? I only have a few that look fine so I have no idea if this has been a common problem on presumably titles he didn't grade.“I know of films that were kind of normal-looking back in the 1980s and ‘90s, and then there’s a current reissue, and they’ll go in the orange and teal () direction,” says Marc.
“The real question is, ‘Is that appropriate for this film?’ If I’m doing a brand-new feature, commercial, short, or TV show, I won’t hesitate to go in an orange-and-teal direction sometimes. But I think it gets weird when you have this intense, powerful look for 90 minutes, two hours, two and half hours. It gets exhausting”
“But to impose that kind of modern look on an old film? That’s not something I would do.”
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MovieBuff647
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels
Using reference prints should be standard procedure and VinSyn too often grade their own remasters to look like old CRT-friendly masters. The fact that they included a disclaimer in front of SLIVER—their most film-like remaster to date—saying that it only has cyan/"teal" because Noyce supervised it speaks volumes.hearthesilence wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2026 4:26 amI'm guessing this:
But wouldn't this suggest he isn't doing this on VS titles? I only have a few that look fine so I have no idea if this has been a common problem on presumably titles he didn't grade.“I know of films that were kind of normal-looking back in the 1980s and ‘90s, and then there’s a current reissue, and they’ll go in the orange and teal () direction,” says Marc.
“The real question is, ‘Is that appropriate for this film?’ If I’m doing a brand-new feature, commercial, short, or TV show, I won’t hesitate to go in an orange-and-teal direction sometimes. But I think it gets weird when you have this intense, powerful look for 90 minutes, two hours, two and half hours. It gets exhausting”
“But to impose that kind of modern look on an old film? That’s not something I would do.”