colinr0380 wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 9:44 pm
The big event of the week though is BBC4 doing a tribute to Moviedrome on Thursday 10th July. The films being shown are nothing too exciting, just the original Wicker Man and Don't Look Now again, but they are going to be shown with their original Moviedrome introductions for the first time since their original broadcast. jlnight brought this up to me a few days ago that there is a BFI Southbank season of Moviedrome films with their original introductions showing throughout July and August, so this must be the BBC's contribution to tie in with that season. The 1988 Alex Cox introduction to The Wicker Man was the very first Moviedrome introduction, showing the director's cut version of the film on television for the first time, and that is followed at the other end of the series by Mark Cousins' 2000 introduction to Don't Look Now, during his 'white void' period (which was the one that was providing the initial suggestion that the BBC were giving up on Moviedrome by having Cousins do all of his links in a studio rather than in evocative locations as had previously characterised the series. The other sign that the BBC were giving up on the series was also that the final series was the one in which they did not show the best available versions of the films they screened - most notably in Cousins talking up a half hour longer 'director's cut' version of Luc Besson's Leon, and then we got the theatrical version, pan-and-scanned to add to the indignity! And Jackie Chan's Rumble in the Bronx was also shown pan-and-scanned and dubbed into English. Although to balance it out even in that final year there were screenings of Clubbed To Death and the surprisingly little shown since Jack Nicholson and Michael Caine team up Blood & Wine to savour).
Amusingly, as Cox says in his introduction, The Wicker Man was cut down on its original theatrical release to act as the second half of a double bill with... Don't Look Now. So in addition to the Moviedrome tribute, the BBC have cheekily recreated the theatrical release of the films here!
colinr0380 wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 12:37 pm
When was the last time that The War Game was shown on the BBC? The last Peter Watkins in general I remember was a surprise appearance of Culloden on BBC2 back in April 1996, and I think that only occurred because it was the 250th anniversary of the battle!
I believe the only previous showing of The War Game was on 31 July 1985, as part of a season marking the fortieth anniversary of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So now I guess it's for the eightieth?
I was in the audience for the BFI Moviedrome discussion, though at a different angle to the stage than the cameras.
1988: studio in Television Centre (Film Club intros in the Lloyd's building)
1989: Arizona
1990: Spain
1991: LA (concreted LA River, Chateau Marmont, Santa Monica Pier, etc.)
1992: New York
1993: San Francisco (Escape From Alcatraz of course)
1994: Budapest
1997/98: ?
1998: ?
1999: Edinburgh
2000: white void studio
colinr0380 wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:04 pm
I did like the anecdote in the discussion about Nick Freand Jones being called up and berated by the producer of some Timewatch documentaries that aired just before Cox's introduction to The Parallax View in that "Kennedy Night"! No wonder they got so riled up when Cox talks about documentary crews thinking they are breaking new ground by interviewing those involved and then reporting the established line as gospel - even if he had not intended it to be a slight against the documentaries shown beforehand, the reaction of the Timewatch person probably revealed that at least they thought so!
jlnight wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 3:33 pm
I attended the screening of The California Dolls, with Nick Jones introducing. I thought he was just going to do the intro then go home but no, he sat through the whole thing. Afterward at least one audience member approached him to sign their Moviedrome Guide, which he did. I spent a few hours in the BFI library beforehand - managed to find info that Electra Glide in Blue got about 3m viewers on its Moviedrome screening. That would have been about average for that timeslot wouldn't it?
colinr0380 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2026 3:58 pm
The BFI have just uploaded the just under 50 minute documentary Moviedrome: Welcome To The Cult, which presumably was made in tandem with last year's film season.
(We may need to move the Moviedrome-focused posts from this thread to a dedicated Moviedrome one in General Film Discussion, if possible)
jlnight wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 7:27 pm
Thanks for the heads-up! That doc was made exclusively for the BFI Player so I'm surprised they uploaded it to youtube. You couldn't even access it from the Mediatheque at the BFI. To be honest Jones and Cox have pretty much told the same story of the genesis of the strand through all the articles last year, the on-stage talk at the BFI and this documentary.
I didn't realise how wobbly the start of the Scarface intro was! I could not have imagined that would be used in a retrospective show years later.
I have a Moviedrome mega-post to unleash but it's not quite ready yet. I was at the BFI the other day to extract more info for it and verify a few details. Maybe another time.
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I thought that we needed a dedicated threat to the BBC's Moviedrome series presented by Alex Cox from 1988-1994 (and Mark Cousins from 1997-2000), especially after the BFI's dedicated season to it last year. A lot of the introductions are on YouTube at the moment, but the "Video Tasties" channel has just begun to helpfully collate every available video introduction into season long videos. They currently have the first season from 1988 and the second series from 1989 up, and hopefully will be continuing to do the others.
For those without currently uploaded video introductions there is the Moviedromer Tumblr site, which has all of the introductions in written form and links to other uploads of the introductions on YouTube.