'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2

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The Elegant Dandy Fop
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#1576 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop »

zachhh wrote:CUL-DE-SAC (“check back in few months”) (Last Update: 09/08)

any updates on this? been quite a while ](*,)
While you have to play the waiting game, you can watch it for free on Hulu in the mean time.

I can't disclose too much information, but a source has told me that Criterion is in the middle of restoring The Thin Red Line under supervision of Terrance Malick and they hope to get it out by the end of the year. This source is extremely reliable so I would believe what they say.
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#1577 Post by zachhh »

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:I can't disclose too much information, but a source has told me that Criterion is in the middle of restoring The Thin Red Line under supervision of Terrance Malick and they hope to get it out by the end of the year. This source is extremely reliable so I would believe what they say.
oh for god's sake, just like Benjamin Button.. a huge waste of time on an incredibly commercial film :roll:
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#1578 Post by Fan-of-Kurosawa »

The Thin Red Line is an "incredibly commercial film"???????? :o
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#1579 Post by Finch »

The Thin Red Line (commercial? give me a break) would be a great addition to the collection but I hope that they'll carry over the DTS track from one of the two Fox editions. To see this on Blu and finally get some supplementary material is a mouthwatering prospect, if it is officially confirmed. [-o<
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#1580 Post by zachhh »

compared to the majority of everything on the upcoming list, it's no missing gem.

i'd much rather see time spent on something currently OOP or completely lacking a clean and proper transfer.
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#1581 Post by tajmahal »

zachhh wrote:compared to the majority of everything on the upcoming list, it's no missing gem.

i'd much rather see time spent on something currently OOP or completely lacking a clean and proper transfer.
I'd wager Badlands would win the popular vote for a hi-def edition. Thin Red Line is a fine film, but Badlands is a classic.
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#1582 Post by zachhh »

tajmahal wrote:I'd wager Badlands would win the popular vote for a hi-def edition. Thin Red Line is a fine film, but Badlands is a classic.
I pray for a proper release of Badlands sometime soon
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#1583 Post by MyNameCriterionForum »

Of course I'm not the first to say this, but Thin Red Line (which I ADORE) really only makes sense as a rerelease if they can include new/unseen footage or a new cut, and of course some worthwhile extras... and we're guaranteed not to see Malick himself in those extras, so...

However, this bodes well for Badlands, praise God.

And, it begs the question: Tree of Life?
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#1584 Post by Mr Sausage »

I don't know why I have to say this, but no one appreciates it when a poster shows up, says a film sucks, and then leaves. If you're going to trash a film, back it up with some reasoning, an argument, you know, something that fosters discussion instead of snark.
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#1586 Post by zachhh »

Mr_sausage wrote:I don't know why I have to say this, but no one appreciates it when a poster shows up, says a film sucks, and then leaves. If you're going to trash a film, back it up with some reasoning, an argument, you know, something that fosters discussion instead of snark.
i'll go out on a limb and assume you're talking to me.

i never said it sucked. and i already explained my beef, but i'll say it again: i said it was silly to waste time on when it could be better spent working on so many obscure/OOP bare boned classics.
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#1587 Post by Mr Sausage »

zachhh wrote:
Mr_sausage wrote:I don't know why I have to say this, but no one appreciates it when a poster shows up, says a film sucks, and then leaves. If you're going to trash a film, back it up with some reasoning, an argument, you know, something that fosters discussion instead of snark.
i'll go out on a limb and assume you're talking to me.

i never said it sucked. and i already explained my beef, but i'll say it again: i said it was silly to waste time on when it could be better spent working on so many obscure/OOP bare boned classics.
In no manner did you provide an explanation for your dismissal of the film, as follows:
zachhh wrote:oh for god's sake, just like Benjamin Button.. a huge waste of time on an incredibly commercial film :roll:
This is not acceptable, as per the rules of the forum. It reads like trolling (especially since there is a sizeable amount of Malick lovers here), even if that probably wasn't your intention. I understand this is just the Lists Discussion and Random Speculation thread, but that is no reason to lower the standard of discourse.

I know other posters have behaved similarly in this thread, and I'm sorry to be just picking on you, but I'd rather not see another thread split from here.
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#1588 Post by ineedyoubad »

zachhh wrote:
The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:I can't disclose too much information, but a source has told me that Criterion is in the middle of restoring The Thin Red Line under supervision of Terrance Malick and they hope to get it out by the end of the year. This source is extremely reliable so I would believe what they say.
oh for god's sake, just like Benjamin Button.. a huge waste of time on an incredibly commercial film :roll:
Compare to malick`s other film, I guess you could said The Thin Red Line is commercial film. :lol:
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#1589 Post by James »

James wrote:Yes! I'm seeing Mirror and Nostalghia on the big screen (the only other Tarkovsky I've seen is Stalker).
Mirror was great with some exceptional imagery (most notably for me, the scene of the barn on fire in the distance with the camera situated just before the front porch of the house, looking out, past the water dripping from the gutter above), but ultimately it was Nostalghia that will stick with me, and it's a real shame that there's no DVD for this, because it is a real masterpiece with its resonating visual poetry and basically brilliant at every shot. It's too bad that the print looks like it was run over by a truck, and sounded like it too (frames were missing, there was the campfire clicks and pops all throughout the movie with outrageous debris all over the print) and it's also too bad that the theater had air-conditioning problems where the air only went on every half-hour or so because I will admit I began to feel sleepy (but never did snooze). Either way, seeing Nostalghia on the big screen showed me that it needs to be restored and released adequately, as it's a masterpiece. I'll have to try and buy Criterion's Solaris DVD.
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#1590 Post by MyNameCriterionForum »

James wrote:Mirror was great with some exceptional imagery (most notably for me, the scene of the barn on fire in the distance with the camera situated just before the front porch of the house, looking out, past the water dripping from the gutter above), but ultimately it was Nostalghia that will stick with me, and it's a real shame that there's no DVD for this, because it is a real masterpiece with its resonating visual poetry and basically brilliant at every shot. It's too bad that the print looks like it was run over by a truck, and sounded like it too (frames were missing, there was the campfire clicks and pops all throughout the movie with outrageous debris all over the print) and it's also too bad that the theater had air-conditioning problems where the air only went on every half-hour or so because I will admit I began to feel sleepy (but never did snooze). Either way, seeing Nostalghia on the big screen showed me that it needs to be restored and released adequately, as it's a masterpiece. I'll have to try and buy Criterion's Solaris DVD.
You mean no Nostalghia DVD in print in the USA? Agreed on that count... but the out-of-print Fox Lorber disc is relatively easy to find for not too much money, and the quality is not as bad as you'd expect -- better than, say Andrei Rublev from CC. Not sure how CC's laser disc of that title looked years ago. Nonetheless, I'd like to see his entire filmography properly restored and on loaded discs, most especially Stalker.
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#1591 Post by James »

MyNameCriterionForum wrote:You mean no Nostalghia DVD in print in the USA? Agreed on that count... but the out-of-print Fox Lorber disc is relatively easy to find for not too much money, and the quality is not as bad as you'd expect -- better than, say Andrei Rublev from CC. Not sure how CC's laser disc of that title looked years ago. Nonetheless, I'd like to see his entire filmography properly restored and on loaded discs, most especially Stalker.
It may be easily available, but I can determine by looking at the DVDBeaver screen caps that the movie deserves a DVD of much, much higher quality. I may have to pick up Ivan's Childhood too, but I don't know, since it's a recent release, it may be more qualifying for an early Blu-ray release.
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#1592 Post by Harmonov »

Saw Peter Bogdanovich speak at Indiana University today (opposite fellow Orson Welles scholar and film noir historian James Naremore) and he mentioned one very intriguing thing...that Welles' final film, The Other Side of the Wind, is finally undergoing an edit according to notes left by Welles and will likely be released in the next year or two. He said someone had expressed interest in releasing when finished, and it sounded like Criterion, although he wouldn't say.

He also said his film Saint Jack is likely to come back in print. Perhaps a two-fer from Criterion?
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#1593 Post by domino harvey »

Harmonov wrote:He also said his film Saint Jack is likely to come back in print. Perhaps a two-fer from Criterion?
It's a Corman pic, didn't a label (Shout Factory maybe) just recently get the rights to Corman's films?

I think the best bet for a Criterion Bogdanovich would be the Fox-owned At Long Last Love. Talk about dream releases...
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#1594 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop »

I can't believe anything Bogdanovich says about that film anymore. He's been saying it was going to be done "in a year or two" six years ago. Wasn't Showtime going to release it originally? He said a year ago that is was suppose to come out in Cannes 2010.

If Saint Jack comes back in print, expect it via Shout! Factory. They now own all the Corman's that Disney owned.
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#1595 Post by Perkins Cobb »

I've seen both the Fox Lorber DVD of Nostalghia and the Criterion Andrei Rublev, and found the latter far superior. Not that upgrades on both wouldn't be welcome.
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#1596 Post by Ovader »

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:I can't believe anything Bogdanovich says about that film anymore. He's been saying it was going to be done "in a year or two" six years ago. Wasn't Showtime going to release it originally? He said a year ago that is was suppose to come out in Cannes 2010.
He addresses that judgement call near the end of this interview.
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#1597 Post by ianungstad »

More random, unfounded speculation :

On Facebook Criterion said there was another Sturges in the works. Any guesses as to what film it will be? I had asked about his unreleased Beautiful Blonde From Bashful Bend. That was shot down on Facebook, so we know it's not that one. (Not that it was a likely candidate anyways)

I think Jeff had mentioned that he thought it would be another upgrade of one of the titles from the Universal box, which makes sense. I'll also toss out another possibility, Paramount's Miracle of Morgan's Creek, which they discontinued back in Oct :

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I don't know how good the supplements on the Paramount disc were but it did have two short featurettes. A 15 minute piece about the film and another 7 minute piece about the censors. I suppose there are still a number of supplements that could be added to it. I would be happy if it was any of the titles from the Universal box set too.

If it's not Morgan's Creek, it sucks that Paramount decided to retire the title. I don't see them revisiting it themselves anytime soon.
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#1598 Post by Cinephrenic »

Yeah, probably The Miracle of Morgan's Creek since it is out-of-print and not in the Sturges boxset.
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#1599 Post by Mikos Stenopolis »

Any news on Cronenberg's crash? I think criterion should go for more of his work especially the Brood.
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#1600 Post by MyNameCriterionForum »

James wrote:
MyNameCriterionForum wrote:You mean no Nostalghia DVD in print in the USA? Agreed on that count... but the out-of-print Fox Lorber disc is relatively easy to find for not too much money, and the quality is not as bad as you'd expect -- better than, say Andrei Rublev from CC. Not sure how CC's laser disc of that title looked years ago. Nonetheless, I'd like to see his entire filmography properly restored and on loaded discs, most especially Stalker.
It may be easily available, but I can determine by looking at the DVDBeaver screen caps that the movie deserves a DVD of much, much higher quality. I may have to pick up Ivan's Childhood too, but I don't know, since it's a recent release, it may be more qualifying for an early Blu-ray release.
Well I absolutely agree -- more Tarkovsky and in better shape is what we need. But if one hasn't seen Nostalghia, for instance, they shouldn't hold their breath waiting for a pristine presentation. Especially since Criterion is more likely to release Fincher's new "Facebook" film on BluRay first.
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