Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4201 Post by Blutarsky » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:53 pm

Hopefully with Visions of Eight we’ll be closer to a stand-alone release of Olympia...I hope.

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#4202 Post by Jgh8xxx » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:55 pm

Is PARIAH the first film licensed from Focus Features or was MONSOON WEDDING the first? Looking over the list of titles they hold the rights to, I don't see anything that would necessarily be of interest for Criterion (I would've said maybe LUST, CAUTION or ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE MIND but those are Kinos) so I'm assuming this is a one-off.

Unless we are finally getting a Bluray of 8 WOMEN with English subtitles (am hoping ! :))

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4203 Post by Ribs » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:59 pm

There are Fox titles in the Sturges series on the channel. I maintain my belief that Criterion are as ever the special exception the studios will choose to keep working with.

Focus is just part of the Universal library so it’s always been on the table as we’ve seen Kino and Arrow begin to pull recently. I would actually not be surprised if Kajillionaire is forthcoming as it seems like something Criterion would take that was passed over for a Blu release despite Focus otherwise not being very stingy about that usually. I have said elsewhere I imagine one of the labels probably has a new restoration of Brokeback Mountain just because it’s such an important film that has an absolutely terrible Blu and it’s definitely one of the first things you’d think to grab from their titles.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4204 Post by dwk » Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:34 pm

Ribs wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:59 pm
There are Fox titles in the Sturges series on the channel. I maintain my belief that Criterion are as ever the special exception the studios will choose to keep working with.
The recent UK releases of Fox titles makes me think you are right, as I can't see them waiting that long to release Kagemusha over there and I also assume that they would have wanted to release Grand Budapest Hotel UK Blu-ray closer to the US release.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4205 Post by dustybooks » Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:37 pm

Looking at the official page for Pickup on South Street, it looks like the DVD is not going to be upgraded at all because it still retains the old features and restoration and doesn't have the new interview. Have they been doing this for a while and I missed it?

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4206 Post by dwk » Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:45 pm

dustybooks wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:37 pm
Looking at the official page for Pickup on South Street, it looks like the DVD is not going to be upgraded at all because it still retains the old features and restoration and doesn't have the new interview. Have they been doing this for a while and I missed it?
Yes, I think Rushmore, The Royal Tenenbaums, and The Life Aquatic all have new transfers on Blu, but didn't get new DVDs, so it has been going on for a while.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4207 Post by bfaison » Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:11 pm

dustybooks wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:37 pm
Looking at the official page for Pickup on South Street, it looks like the DVD is not going to be upgraded at all because it still retains the old features and restoration and doesn't have the new interview. Have they been doing this for a while and I missed it?
The Human Condition looks to be the same way, with the DVD now being more expensive than the Blu.

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#4208 Post by captveg » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:10 pm

Häxan and Naked were another two that did not get a new DVD version when the BD came out. Pretty sure there are others.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4209 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:26 pm

James L Brooks is in the Criterion closet...Makes me think that maybe As Good as it Gets will get a CC release.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4210 Post by Pavel » Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:34 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:26 pm
James L Brooks is in the Criterion closet...Makes me think that maybe As Good as it Gets will get a CC release.
I don't know what the rights situation is, but isn't Terms of Endearment much more in Criterion's alley?

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4211 Post by bainbridgezu » Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:48 pm

Pavel wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:34 pm
FrauBlucher wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:26 pm
James L Brooks is in the Criterion closet...Makes me think that maybe As Good as it Gets will get a CC release.
I don't know what the rights situation is, but isn't Terms of Endearment much more in Criterion's alley?
I feel like Terms of Endearment was at least lightly rumored at some point, but with the recent Paramount mishigas, who can say

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Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4212 Post by johnnysnatchclub7 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:58 pm

I hope he was in there for MODERN ROMANCE and/or REAL LIFE.


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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4213 Post by dustybooks » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:05 pm

I actually like Terms of Endearment a lot — and with Polly Platt’s heavy involvement it’s definitely in the current zeitgeist — but please god let it somehow be for Real Life.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4214 Post by Calvin » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:08 pm

Brooks was a producer on The Edge of Seventeen a few years ago, which is a film I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see end up on Criterion at some point. The Universal release was pretty lacklustre.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4215 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:18 pm

Starting Over!

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4216 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:20 pm

I was going by As Good as it Gets being a Sony film that is no longer available through Twilight Time. Terms of Endearment, which I would've mentioned, is a Paramount film, so not sure what the status is for Criterion

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4217 Post by deathbird » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:18 pm

Calvin wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:08 pm
Brooks was a producer on The Edge of Seventeen a few years ago, which is a film I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see end up on Criterion at some point. The Universal release was pretty lacklustre.
I understand Terrence Malick is a big fan of that one.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4218 Post by justeleblanc » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:27 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:26 pm
James L Brooks is in the Criterion closet...Makes me think that maybe As Good as it Gets will get a CC release.
Give me the I'll Do Anything super cut.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4219 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:38 pm

justeleblanc wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:27 pm
Give me the I'll Do Anything super cut.
Given the quality of the copy, let alone the other barriers, I'd sooner bet on Deville's Zärtliche Haie being unearthed

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4220 Post by bainbridgezu » Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:18 am

Calvin wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:08 pm
Brooks was a producer on The Edge of Seventeen a few years ago, which is a film I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see end up on Criterion at some point. The Universal release was pretty lacklustre.
I would love to see this happen. It would fit with Criterion's recent effort to present more female filmmakers, and Fremon Craig is certainly a contemporary talent to watch. She and Brooks seem to have a strong working relationship, so I'm sure he'd be involved if that's the case. As mentioned, we could certainly ask for more than Universal's paltry <10 minutes of outtakes and deleted scenes.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4221 Post by justeleblanc » Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:49 am

therewillbeblus wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:38 pm
justeleblanc wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:27 pm
Give me the I'll Do Anything super cut.
Given the quality of the copy, let alone the other barriers, I'd sooner bet on Deville's Zärtliche Haie being unearthed
I get that, but just imagine how great this video bootleg would look in 4K.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4222 Post by hearthesilence » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:49 am

justeleblanc wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:49 am
therewillbeblus wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:38 pm
justeleblanc wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:27 pm
Give me the I'll Do Anything super cut.
Given the quality of the copy, let alone the other barriers, I'd sooner bet on Deville's Zärtliche Haie being unearthed
I get that, but just imagine how great this video bootleg would look in 4K.
A good HD version of the non-musical theatrical cut is available for purchase. I'm tempted to "upgrade" the circulating musical version just as I did with Demme's cut of Swing Shift, but I don't have the time right now.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4223 Post by therewillbeblus » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:53 am

I haven’t seen the original cut but I cannot imagine it retains the same feral energy, which is what makes the musical cut so damn engaging. It’s one of the most interesting failures I’ve seen, and I adore it for that. Played straight.. I’ll pass

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4224 Post by hearthesilence » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:35 am

It doesn't, but 60 or 75% of the picture footage would be upgraded. I don't mind the jarring changes in quality, it gives me eyes a break to see a clear, crisp picture for a good stretch rather than two straight hours of nth generation VHS dubs.


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