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#1701 Post by yoloswegmaster » Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:30 am

I don't see anything about a 4K UHD release of Ran.

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#1702 Post by RitrovataBlue » Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:01 pm

Ran is one of my most wanted UHD upgrades, alongside The Red Shoes. I’m glad StudioCanal is taking the initiative to upgrade it. Hopefully, they’ll use this opportunity to fix the color timing from their BD. All of their UHDs to date have ranged between solid and spectacular, so it seems likely that they will. Is there any indication if are all new restorations or will Ran be sourced from the previous 4K?

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#1703 Post by Grisbi » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:17 pm

Amazon UK is running a sale on some random box set titles, and seem to be shipping to the US again at reasonable rates. Just ordered the Studio Canal Bunuel and Melville sets for a total of 75 USD shipped, which struck me as a heck of a good deal.

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#1704 Post by eerik » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:20 am

domino harvey wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:55 am
Any breakdown on new extras for the Godard?
From Amazon:
NEW Still not…Breathless
NEW Trailer
Room 12, Hotel de Suede
Introduction with Jefferson Hack
Film Presentation by Colin MacCabe
Tempo - Godard Episode

also includes: 4K UHD and Blu-Ray 12" Vinyl Original Soundtrack, Written and Composed by Martial Solal, 40 Page Booklet, Poster, 4 Artcards

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#1705 Post by domino harvey » Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:03 am

Thanks eerik!

The excellent Yield to the Night is coming to Blu-ray in the UK from SC in October!

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#1706 Post by NABOB OF NOWHERE » Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:31 am

domino harvey wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:03 am
The excellent Yield to the Night is coming to Blu-ray in the UK from SC in October!
Glad about this but had hoped that Powerhouse would have stepped in for this one and opened the gate for other UK late 40's and early 50's items from J lee-Thompson, Crichton, Leacock and Birt that deal with the impact of post war austerity and squalor on women and children particularly regarding the moral ground.

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#1707 Post by domino harvey » Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:31 pm

It does seem like a very Indicator-type movie, but I’m glad to see it coming out— I’ll probably hold onto my DVD for the opened up aspect ratio though. The main thing I’ve carried in memory from this film is how many different ways they worked out filming Dors inside her jail cell, not sure how these compositions will fair closed in to widescreen, though it’s obvious it was filmed to protect both ratios

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#1708 Post by NABOB OF NOWHERE » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:19 am

domino harvey wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:31 pm
It does seem like a very Indicator-type movie, but I’m glad to see it coming out— I’ll probably hold onto my DVD for the opened up aspect ratio though. The main thing I’ve carried in memory from this film is how many different ways they worked out filming Dors inside her jail cell, not sure how these compositions will fair closed in to widescreen, though it’s obvious it was filmed to protect both ratios
That concern also has great implications for the pre-title sequence too.

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#1709 Post by eerik » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:23 pm

November 2020
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A brand new 4K 30th anniversary restoration, approved by Paul Verhoeven

The UHD disc and 2 Blu-ray discs
2 CD Soundtrack
Double-sided poster
6 Artcards
48 Page Booklet with exclusive essay by Kim Newman


Open your mind: Scoring Total Recall
Total Excess: How Carolco changed Hollywood
Dreamers Within the Dream: Developing Total Recall
Audio commentary by Paul Verhoeven and Arnold Schwarzenegger
New Trailer
Making of Documentary
Imagining Total Recall featurette
The Special Effects of Total Recall featurette

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#1710 Post by TMDaines » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:40 am

Annoyingly despite some StudioCanal/Arthaus titles being the exact same discs published in the UK, Germany and France, some aren't. I've just found this out with two Becker films: Le trou and Touchez pas au Grisbi whose German discs don't have English subtitles and vice versa. This goes for both the standalone releases and the German boxset.

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#1711 Post by tenia » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:25 am

Usually, if they're not released close together in time, they're likely to be tailored solely for their domestic market. For instance, while Canal has Le trou also in France, it will only be released now in a completely different release than the UK one.

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#1712 Post by TMDaines » Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:02 pm

Isn't the UK already a great 4k restoration?

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#1713 Post by L.A. » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:10 pm

The Ladykillers (1955) 4K UHD coming November 9th.

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#1714 Post by bluesforyou » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:18 pm

Really encouraging signs for the format. The threshold for a film to be considered financially viable for a UHD release has lowered considerably since 2016. Hope we see studios and labels dive even deeper for catalogue releases.

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#1715 Post by TMDaines » Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:29 am

bluesforyou wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:18 pm
Really encouraging signs for the format. The threshold for a film to be considered financially viable for a UHD release has lowered considerably since 2016. Hope we see studios and labels dive even deeper for catalogue releases.
It's the cost of entry to the equipment that's the barrier. The value for money in 1080p projectors is so much better than genuine 4k ones.

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#1716 Post by perkizitore » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:17 am

But 4K good quality TVs are the same price or cheaper than their 1080p counterparts! I doubt that the projector market is driving physical sales. Most people have gone digital and sadly even some people sticking to digital still watch DVDs!

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#1717 Post by tenia » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:01 am

It depends what you call good UHD TVs and 1080p counterparts. Especially since UHD TVs are likely to be bigger than 1080p ones, and prices of very big 1080p TVs have indeed never been really competitive, so the comparison will be even more biased.

Basically, you'll be comparing in practice a good 1080p 50" TV (probably 900€) to a good 55" UHD TV (1500€) or a good 65" UHD TV (2500€).

So even screens are not that cheap, but it's not the issue : UHD screens ARE sold quite massively nowadays, but just not UHD releases, because the market simply doesn't really care about it, like the market didn't really care about BD despite having adopted HD TVs.

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#1718 Post by MichaelB » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:16 am

L.A. wrote:The Ladykillers (1955) 4K UHD coming November 9th.
As soon as I heard about this, I immediately asked someone with first-hand knowledge about the aspect ratio, and they’re doing it in both 1.37:1 and 1.66:1. So no complaints on that score.

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#1719 Post by EddieLarkin » Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:43 am

MichaelB wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:16 am
So no complaints on that score.
You'd think so, but from how the advert reads, it sounds to me like only the (totally wrong and historically inaccurate) 1.37:1 version is making it to UHD:
The film will also become the first of any Ealing comedy to be released on UHD Blu-ray (4K resolution). The 5-disc box set is set to include a multi-region 4K Blu-ray, featuring the film at its very highest quality; two region B HD (2K resolution) Blu-rays containing the film at both both 1.37:1 and 1.66:1 aspect ratios
Hopefully I'm wrong.

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#1720 Post by MichaelB » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:01 am

My source is unimpeachable, and unquestionably knows more about the actual disc content than whoever wrote the advert.

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#1721 Post by EddieLarkin » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:19 am

That's reassuring to hear, as SC have done something similar before, by making the 1.75:1 version of The Dam Busters an LE exclusive special feature on its own disc. The "main disc", which was the only disc in the standard release, carried the 1.37:1 version.

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#1722 Post by senseabove » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:05 pm

David Mackenzie also noted on the other forum that this is "the first time it's ever been mastered from the Technicolor separation elements. The improvement in detail and color is insane."

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#1723 Post by bluesforyou » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:39 pm

tenia wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:01 am
It depends what you call good UHD TVs and 1080p counterparts. Especially since UHD TVs are likely to be bigger than 1080p ones, and prices of very big 1080p TVs have indeed never been really competitive, so the comparison will be even more biased.

Basically, you'll be comparing in practice a good 1080p 50" TV (probably 900€) to a good 55" UHD TV (1500€) or a good 65" UHD TV (2500€).

So even screens are not that cheap, but it's not the issue : UHD screens ARE sold quite massively nowadays, but just not UHD releases, because the market simply doesn't really care about it, like the market didn't really care about BD despite having adopted HD TVs.
Are TVs that much more expensive in Europe? I can get a Sony OLED A8H 55" for CAD 2500 (€1600). X900H 65" goes for CAD 1700 (€1090) and that is a great 4K TV.

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#1724 Post by tenia » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:48 pm

I had a look at the LG C9 and the 55" is about 1600€ and the 65" 2500€.
Just looked at the Sony A8 and prices are roughly the same (1700€ and 2700€).

But 1080p TVs have never been competitive at these prices, and are likely to be bought at smaller sizes instead. My Panasonic 50G20 was 1000€ 10 years ago, you probably can get a very good 50" 1080p screen nowadays for less than this.

But in any case again, the issue is that even if people are buying UHD TVs, it doesn't mean they'll buy a UHD player and UHD discs.

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#1725 Post by perkizitore » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:52 pm

tenia wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:48 pm
I had a look at the LG C9 and the 55" is about 1600€ and the 65" 2500€.
Just looked at the Sony A8 and prices are roughly the same (1700€ and 2700€).

But 1080p TVs have never been competitive at these prices, and are likely to be bought at smaller sizes instead. My Panasonic 50G20 was 1000€ 10 years ago, you probably can get a very good 50" 1080p screen nowadays for less than this.

But in any case again, the issue is that even if people are buying UHD TVs, it doesn't mean they'll buy a UHD player and UHD discs.
The LG C9 was available for 1300, but it ended up costing me around 1050 after selling a Nintendo Switch Lite and the 100 voucher they included! It's probably discontinued, you should look into LG GX offers, but I guess the pandemic has altered the market (for comparison, last September the LG C9 had already dropped to 1300). You cannot even get a decent 1080p nowadays, I think all good manufacturers moved to 4K. FALD TVs were always expensive, but it's really a necessity now for HDR. With 1080p, you could get a decent edge led TV that would have sufficed for most people. In the US you can get a decent DV enabled Vizio or TCL set for less than you would have paid for a 40 inch 1080p TV a decade ago. With 4K you need the bigger size to notice the difference, but if you don't pay enough for a unit that can produce a decent amount of nits, you are just getting a dim picture.

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