Twilight Time / Redwind

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3751 Post by brundlefly » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:48 pm

I liked Rachel quite a bit, not for de Havilland (who mostly only gets to be sensible and sincere) but for Burton. He's a conflagration of naïveté, pure delusional intensity.
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The tragedy of a man who can only see a woman as an object of vengeance or love meets a woman who refuses to be either a murderer or a wife.
The second adaptation's the one I thought was a snooze. A stunting sense of righteousness and a total imbalance in the leads. Weisz' patience is exhausted and her intelligence unmet.

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3752 Post by John Cope » Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:02 pm

I loved the original version as well for both de Havilland and Burton and thought the remake was wan and lackluster though in truth I can barely remember it.

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3753 Post by L.A. » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:54 pm

Heartfelt thank you all for your comments. After some thinking went ahead and took The Hospital. Black comedies always a big yes for me, in fact on Tuesday I received El Cochecito which I wasn’t aware of before but apparently is a classic in the cinema of Spain.

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3754 Post by therewillbeblus » Wed May 19, 2021 8:31 pm

It appears that Screen Archives taking over TT is off to a decent start, as they released Messalina on blu about a month ago. I haven't seen the film yet, but it's near the top of my 60s pile for our upcoming project, and I know domino has spoken highly of it

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3755 Post by domino harvey » Wed May 19, 2021 8:34 pm

Wow, I had not heard that got a Blu-ray release! Yes, it’s an incredible study in the power of mise en scene to elevate anything

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#3756 Post by therewillbeblus » Wed May 19, 2021 8:41 pm

It seems to be only available from Screen Archives direct. They sure aren't doing much to gain publicity on their new business undertaking, I wouldn't have known if I wasn't browsing their site today

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3757 Post by tenia » Thu May 20, 2021 2:30 am

Same here, I had no idea they released it. I was under the impression they only released Venom and The Man from Hong Kong since they took over, but it seems they have also released Seven Deaths in the Cat's Eye along Messalina !

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#3758 Post by Glowingwabbit » Thu May 20, 2021 11:42 am

Hopefully they do a sale one day. I've liked other films from Vittorio Cottafavi so I'm now intrigued by Messalina but I see they've kept that ridiculous price point for even barebone releases which brings it to $30+ after shipping.

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3759 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu May 20, 2021 11:56 am

I ordered it with some other remaining TT titles I had yet to pick up, which evened down the avg price since it's $2 per film after the initial $6-7 shipping charge

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3760 Post by domino harvey » Thu May 20, 2021 12:06 pm

Glowingwabbit wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 11:42 am
Hopefully they do a sale one day. I've liked other films from Vittorio Cottafavi so I'm now intrigued by Messalina but I see they've kept that ridiculous price point for even barebone releases which brings it to $30+ after shipping.
I've seen quite a few Cottafavi but his popularity with certain members of the Cahiers crew remained a mystery until I saw Messaline and Amazons of Rome / Le vergini di Roma and I was like, "Ohhhhhhhh"! I believe Amazons of Rome is with MGM, so hopefully KLSC gives it a go one of these days

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3761 Post by therewillbeblus » Sun May 23, 2021 12:28 am

My order already arrived today (after a scheduled delivery for Monday)- I had no idea Screen Archives was operating on Amazon-scale expedited shipping!

Messalina's image quality is about what one would expect from TT, good but not great. The supplements are non-existent other than a booklet that's really just a description of the story's historical events, before saying 'Sike! This film doesn't show much of that!' and of course the bonus of both English and Italian audio tracks, which didn't overlap on backchannel copies. The film itself is great though, a formalist's dream and perfect for these embellished historical costume escapades. Cottafavi shamelessly embraces a fusion of history and cinema's deviations towards melodramatic thriller conventions purely filtered through sensory-stimulated tone, drenched in extravagance dialed up to 11.

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3762 Post by hearthesilence » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 pm

Some of the Woody Allen titles are going for insane prices on eBay, especially if they're still brand new/sealed. The Arrow counterparts can be substantially less (but still very high) so if you're region B or region-free, that could help.

I guess the prospects of another boutique licensing these films is very low for the foreseeable future, and Amazon isn't going to release pressed BD's themselves. Regardless, if you've got some Twilight Time BD's of Woody Allen films you've been thinking of selling, now is a very good time.

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3763 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:51 pm

Those Woody Allen’s seem ideal for Kino. Considering they’re mostly owner by MGM, it doesn’t seem out of the question. I don’t think Kino is as worried about releasing something like the works of Woody Allen in today’s atmosphere, but could be terribly wrong.

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#3764 Post by Dylan » Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:23 am

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:51 pm
Those Woody Allen’s seem ideal for Kino. Considering they’re mostly owner by MGM, it doesn’t seem out of the question. I don’t think Kino is as worried about releasing something like the works of Woody Allen in today’s atmosphere, but could be terribly wrong.
Last year, Kino Lorber released the 1969 film adaptation of Allen's play Don't Drink the Water on Blu-ray, with the cover art prominently displaying Allen's name (great transfer and commentary by the way, and I liked the film too). Of course, that was before Allen v. Farrow, but I still feel like the release of Don't Drink the Water is a good indication that Kino Lorber would be among the few labels still willing to release Woody Allen films.

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3765 Post by Nw_jahrles » Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:36 am

They also released Hickey & Boggs after the Cosby allegations, but that might be more of a “We already licensed it and spent the money so we’re putting it out”. As Arrow proved with how they handled the Shane Carruth and Richard Stanley situations differently, it’s easier to walk away when a project is in it’s early stages or just not license it in the first place.

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3766 Post by domino harvey » Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:53 am

Kino Lorber advertised Jimmy Savile's involvement in a film as a net positive like a year or two ago. They don't care

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#3767 Post by MichaelB » Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:20 am

domino harvey wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:53 am
Kino Lorber advertised Jimmy Savile's involvement in a film as a net positive like a year or two ago. They don't care
Has Savile's notoriety spread much beyond the UK? Did they emphasise his participation over and above what would have happened on its original release?

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#3768 Post by Ribs » Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:26 am

Well, yes, but seeing as he isn’t particularly known in the US, it makes it all the weirder to go out of your way to mention his appearance in the film on the back of the box, as anyone who does know the name will probably know it’s… odd… to promote it…

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#3769 Post by MichaelB » Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:00 pm

Or simply a duplicate of the original advertising emphasis, where Savile's participation would presumably have been considered a draw (at least in the UK).

A quick Google image search reveals that Savile's name was indeed reasonably prominently displayed in the British marketing campaign - although (unsurprisingly) not in the US equivalent. But distinctions between territories become blurred over time, and Kino Lorber may well have felt that going down the British marketing route for a British film was more appropriate.

I don't often feel sorry for Donald Trump, but when he was asked to give a shout out to a Twitter user's ageing parents (something he used to do back in the days when he was a mere TV celebrity) and he duly did so... well, is it really his fault that he didn't immediately recognise the supplied photo as being of notorious serial-killer couple Fred and Rose West? Why would anyone outside the UK who wasn't a true-crime obsessive have done so?

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3770 Post by FlickeringWindow » Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:52 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:53 am
Kino Lorber advertised Jimmy Savile's involvement in a film as a net positive like a year or two ago. They don't care
Not really. The synopsis is on their site and it would have been irresponsible to not mention Saville’s presence for those unfamiliar with the film:
https://www.klstudioclassics.com/product/view/id/7069

I know KL deserves criticism on some stuff, but that’s a stretch.

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Re: Twilight Time / Redwind

#3771 Post by jlnight » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:20 am

I have to confess that I've never even heard of Go Go Mania (aka Pop Gear). I doubt a UK label would go anywhere near that. However back in 2016 someone saw fit to release Remember Me This Way, the Gary Glitter film, on DVD in the UK! And this was well after his visit to PC World or wherever it was.

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#3772 Post by CSM126 » Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:26 pm

jlnight wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:20 am
However back in 2016 someone saw fit to release Remember Me This Way, the Gary Glitter film, on DVD in the UK! And this was well after his visit to PC World or wherever it was.
He raped children.

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#3773 Post by MichaelB » Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:04 pm

CSM126 wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:26 pm
jlnight wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:20 am
However back in 2016 someone saw fit to release Remember Me This Way, the Gary Glitter film, on DVD in the UK! And this was well after his visit to PC World or wherever it was.
He raped children.
If I interpret jlnight's post correctly, the point is that nobody can plead innocence about Gary Glitter's predilections after 1997, which is when the PC World incident happened. Before that, while there may have been rumours, there was nothing concrete, and so a label could handle his material without any public blowback.

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#3774 Post by CSM126 » Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:44 pm

I’m mostly just appalled that “going to prison for child rape” is being equated to a “PC” issue. As if stopping a predator is woke ideology gone amok and not just good practice.

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#3775 Post by HJackson » Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:05 pm

The post in question is expressing shock that a DVD about Glitter was still released after the incident, so I don’t see how it can be read in good faith as trying to undermine the seriousness of Glitter‘s paedophilia. I just don’t think everyone in the country has morbidly followed Glitter’s subsequent history of grim offending against children, so Glitter being exposed as a paedophile after taking his child porn filled laptop into PC World to resolve an IT issue is not an unreasonable touchstone to refer back to.

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