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1132 The Worst Person in the World

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Renate Reinsve won the Best Actress prize at Cannes for the revelatory, complex performance that anchors this sprawlingly novelistic film by Norwegian auteur Joachim Trier, an emotionally intricate and exhilarating character study of a woman entering her thirties. Amid the seemingly endless possibilities of the modern world, Julie (Reinsve) vacillates between artistic passions and professions, the question of motherhood, and relationships with two very different men: a successful comic-book artist (Trier regular Anders Danielsen Lie) and a charismatic barista (Herbert Nordrum). Working with a team of longtime collaborators, Trier and his perennial cowriter Eskil Vogt construct in The Worst Person in the World, the Oscar-nominated third entry in their unofficial Oslo Trilogy, a liberating portrait of self-discovery and a bracingly contemporary spin on the romantic comedy.

DIRECTOR-APPROVED SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES
  • New 2K digital master, with 5.1 surround DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack on the Blu-ray
  • New interviews with director Joachim Trier; coscreenwriter Eskil Vogt; actors Renate Reinsve, Anders Danielsen Lie, and Herbert Nordrum; cinematographer Kasper Tuxen; and sound designer Gisle Tveito
  • On-set footage from the creation of the film’s time-freezing sequence
  • Deleted scenes
PLUS: An essay by critic Sheila O’Malley
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The Worst Person in the World

Finally someone has made the perfect film for me, as if they've studied my life thus far and incorporated all the love, suffering, and everything in between into one adult, humane, existential examination of a person via a small collection of experiences that help shape a life. First, it helps that Trier is aiming his narrative at my demographic, the older-half of millennials in their early 30s who have coasted into indecisiveness through a cultural shift that prioritizes agency limitlessly yet without the support of ideological customs to retain stability, also known as the 'new' developmental stage of "emerging adulthood." However, Trier also understands human behavior so well that he rejects any rigid prognosis of a person's worth based on their phase of development and reactiveness within relationships at any given phase of life, affirming the philosophy that relationships are all about making a choice to keep 'signing up' with your partner. He understands that people are allowed to change their minds at different stages and aren’t always (or often) at the same readiness, or place, as their romantic partner. The ironies and coincidences many of us have experienced are on display, as we encounter past lovers who have changed their minds about kids or marriage, etc. There is a deep meditation on that grey area when you maybe don't make choices or you run from problems because of fear or avoidance or a society that reinforces individuality away from institutional expectations, or maybe because sometimes it’s the right choice to give yourself space to trust feelings and wait until you’re ready.

Julie is a feeler. A partner might combat her desire to escape with logic, but that isn't the language Julie speaks. She trusts her gut. However, I think about all the times I trusted my gut- sometimes they were right, and sometimes, when I worked through that discomfort and remained in a relationship, I fell in love deeper. Still, that's not always where Julie is at, and she needs to live her life to develop skillsets. That she can't ignore a feeling is not a fault alone, but is presented as both a flaw and admirable quality; it's the type of individualism that is taught, learned, felt, and vigorously liberating yet consequentially tragic. Julie doesn't deceive, she's honest (mostly), but anyone who chastises her for her morally-grey behavior should look deeper into themselves; we don't stay static, we change our minds. Our hearts change too. The important aspect of this film is that Julie is not a "bad" person, certainly not the "worst" -a title I can only imagine stems from the narcissistic self-criticism we assign to ourselves, but that thankfully is not overstated here. The is a film that cherry picks several significant social encounters (in 12 chapters, with a prologue and epilogue that, amusingly, offset each other via a movement from youthful overexplanation into sage restraint signifying to the beginnings of self-actualization), and believes all these experiences have value and are divorced from moral judgment.

The film is also very funny, yet the humor almost always stems from authentic dialog that people would really say to collectively cope with something unhumorous (aside from some incredible commentaries on several modern zeitgeists, which are pitch-perfect). There is a scene containing the most realistic breakup I may have ever seen, and it's not a heavy-handed screamer. Trier's camera pays ultra-sensitive attention to 'feeling' too - and not only Julie's; in one brief scene, we go from watching a character listening to music to becoming inebriated as a surrogate for his perspective, and the camera movements and editing thrive with the exact vivacious energy he's feeling. This may appear to be a subtle, throw-away exhibition, but Trier utilizes the possibilities of the medium to convey unconditional appreciation for all the small life-affirming moments that are really everything to us in the end. The versatile director even finds a way to use his knack for visual creativity and set design found in Thelma's supernatural aesthetics in a sharp left-turn during a wild night that I won't spoil here, but is a surprising highlight of this already-eclectically genius film.

The philosophical approach asks questions that only layers our personal worth through humanistic respect; that we are the keepers of our memories, that we matter to others and are granted additional complexity we don't even know we have, or feel we deserve in the memories of another; that as meaningful as these experiences are, they are fleeting, losses are inevitable, and that fear infecting us is a condition we must endure alone. At least sometimes. Trier has so much to say about the power of social intimacy, and not only from sexual relationships but from our capacity to lift another's spirits by just being 'us' around them, growing apart and together, but bound to our exposure to others, and theirs to us. Our image is not only valuable as a self-image, and this is perhaps where the film is most directed at more mature audiences. Our image is created by a collage of how others see us, our relationship to that image, and we build our identity around a swirl of personal values, growth, and inevitably (and graciously) the collective experiences we have with significant others, who tell us and show us and teach us about ourselves.

Renate Reinsve is majestic enough to carry the film independently, and should have a lustrous career after more people in the biz see her as a new star born, though Anders Danielsen Lie may also give his best perf (high praise after his own raw, star-making role in an earlier Trier work) for thriving on the intricate, diverse shades of characterization he gets to work with over the course of the narrative. Oh, and I can't remember the last time a soundtrack popped this much. The dark quasi-romantic dramedy, if you can even pin it down into that jack-of-all-trades categorization, is an amalgamation of every accessible cinematic intervention aimed at dignifying a human life, repackaged into a candied treat that burns a tad on the way down before new flavors blossom in a serene aftertaste. It's sad, it's hilarious, it's empowering, and, most importantly, it's true. It's also a film I plan to watch for the rest of my life.
DarkImbecile wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:23 pm NYFCC Awards
Thrilled to see The Worst Person in the World pick up International Film- it's definitely the kind of film I see going the distance all the way to an Oscar
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Forthcoming: The Worst Person in the World

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The Worst Person in the World will be released next year, per Neon’s socials.
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Will be released by Criterion?
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swo17 wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:07 pm Will be released by Criterion?
Sure looks like it.

(Now, if they could have actually released the film this year...)
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soundchaser wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:12 pm
swo17 wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:07 pm Will be released by Criterion?
Sure looks like it.

(Now, if they could have actually released the film this year...)
The film got a qualifying run for an unadvertised one week run in November at the Linden Ave multiplex in eastern Brooklyn, as did Petite Maman (this past week). So it did actually come out in the sense that matters for lists and critics groups.
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I wonder if Criterion get to pick and choose from Neon's line-up or if Neon only approach them with specific titles.
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Ribs wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:15 pm
soundchaser wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:12 pm
swo17 wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:07 pm Will be released by Criterion?
Sure looks like it.

(Now, if they could have actually released the film this year...)
The film got a qualifying run for an unadvertised one week run in November at the Linden Ave multiplex in eastern Brooklyn, as did Petite Maman (this past week). So it did actually come out in the sense that matters for lists and critics groups.
But they've ignored the most important critic: me.
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Calvin wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:15 pm I wonder if Criterion get to pick and choose from Neon's line-up or if Neon only approach them with specific titles.
I also wonder if this means none of the other films Neon has released/will be releasing are planned spines.
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Excellent news! I expect this will take home both the International Film Oscar and, more importantly, the Best Modern Film award at the 2022 Criterionforum Awards. For a film so earnestly and insightfully pointed at millennials crossing the 30s threshold, any extras examining attention to western milieus’ transformations regarding the relationship between zeitgeists and psychosocial development will be welcome, even if it’s just a conversation with Trier
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Also very pleased with the news, I loved the film (so far my favorite of the year, and likely to stay that way)
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I'm excited to discover the film myself when it gets the Blu-Ray (perhaps even a UHD?) next year. It's on several best of year lists as per Metacritic, including 7th in Slant's Best 50 Films of 2021.
Joachim Trier’s The Worst Person in the World is a charismatic negotiator arrived to make a deal with our rom-com-unfriendly times and dismantle our time-honed defenses against sentiment. In what could be called a bait and switch if it didn’t seem so fluid and effortless, the film’s levity of spirit at first belies, then ends up accentuating, deeper themes about navigating a world in flux and a life you only get to live once. The film strikes many familiar chords about life, love, and loss, but proves that much insight and pleasure can still be gained by simply rearranging them a bit. Certainly there’s an honesty in its exploration of a woman who deeply loves two men, and a dedication in its identification with Julie’s (Renate Reinsve) complex position as a 21st-century woman, that are relatively unique. But if some films look to revivify a formula rather than reinvent the wheel, The Worst Person in the World may be the prime example of how to restore fun, significance, and even a little bit of sex to the well-worn terrain of the romantic comedy.
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Watched this again, loved it even more, and a closer look after being confused about the ironic title gives more ‘explanation’ to its meaning: In the prologue, Aksel tells Julie, “The only thing worse than everyone else is yourself.” Julie is not the worst person in the world, but she is capable of self-prescribing herself as such, an 'egomaniac with an inferiority complex', as 12-step literature heavy-handedly diagnoses that state of mind- but one that plagues millennials quite uniformly.

She still feels like the daughter in chapter one who doesn’t want to go to bed, to be resigned to a place or a fate, and struggles to engage with them because she’s avoiding engaging with herself around a definite path, which doesn’t ‘feel right’ to her soul. She blames herself from an injury that occurs because she initiated another’s participation, even if she didn’t cause the accident. It’s an apt exhibition of the millennial’s paradoxical need to be liberated from responsibility and the motivated perception to feel responsible for all, as the star of their own movie, where the immense stress of a growing culture thwarts their importance and the growing freedoms within said culture provides infinite opportunities to engage on one’s own terms. It’s tougher to write a paper with the prompt “write about anything” than it is to write one without a structure, and yet there’s an expectation set for 'release' from constraints there; a release that doesn't come in practice the way it does in imagination.

Julie is imprisoned by the very systems that tell her she’s not. If she’s not happy, or cannot actualize her dreams with confidence, or make another happy to the extent she expects she should, she must be the ‘worst’. Another male character also hyperbolically declares himself the worst person in the world, but it's significant that both of them do so introspectively in their thoughts, and the context is important: they "feel like" the worst- which is not the same as actually being definitively 'bad'. Thank god Julie soaks up enough sublime wonder throughout this narrative to prove to herself and the audience that the title is an empathetic yet cheeky indication of our tragicomic social conditioning for solipsistic self-importance; engaging in enough meaningful relationships with others to be directly challenged from adopting the titular shame with credence we share. This is the modern It’s a Wonderful Life, sans heartstring-pulling divine intervention. The spiritual is in the fabric of the corporeal present.

The director's statement reflects a lot of this in succinct terms:
Joachim Trier wrote:For a long time I have wanted to make a film about love. One that goes a bit deeper than normal onscreen love stories, where everything is so simple, the stories so clear-cut, the feelings so admirably unambiguous. A film that will look seriously at the difficulties of meeting someone when you're struggling to figure out your own life; at how irresolute and uncertain even the most rational and otherwise self-confident people can become when they fall in love; and how complicated it is, even for romantics, when they actually get what they have been dreaming about.
This may be the best romance I've ever seen, precisely because it's at once romantic and authentically anti-romantic, which is to say it's a raw, honest portrait of modern love. And as someone who grew up between the Age of Internet and the time when "culture was passed through objects" just before it, both central characters' worldviews resonate with supremacy.
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I think the film judges its protagonist much more harshly than many have been letting on. And that's a good thing. Julie's wispiness is the exact sort of attitude that possesses so many young urban professionals. She's allergic to commitment, and she mistakes solipsism with individualism. Ultimately, she's a victim of her own father's negligence. She fears family because she fears the concomitant pain and rejection she associates with its unique dynamics. As a result, she's left alone and loveless. She's chosen to live life on her own terms. But is it really much of a life?

Renate Reinsve should've gotten an Oscar nomination for her work here. Incredible performance. Her face is incredibly expressive, so much so that I kept feeling as though she was playing multiple characters. In many respects, she was.
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There's way too much confidence in that pat pathology of her conditioning to be remotely fair. That's not how psychology works, no matter what kind of armchair expertise has been propagated by fictional programmers over the years. It's certainly a dimension of what the film is getting at, but the film doesn't judge her for it any more than it empathizes with her position. The end of the film is not the end of her personal growth or development or relationship history, only a new beginning, and an optimistic one at that.
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I was merely offering my interpretation of the film's ending. And I think it's equally pat to suggest that the conclusion is optimistic.
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The relief she feels after her miscarriage is tempered by a strong sense of isolation and unresolved trauma. I doubt the film expects us to empathize with her response, especially since it seems to contradict Aksel's optimistic appraisal of her skills as a mother. In many respects, her miscarriage represents two deaths: the death of her child and the death (at least for the time being) of any sense of familial intimacy she might feel.
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Please use spoilerboxes for spoilers.
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It’s optimistic because she’s finally okay with where she’s at divorced from being in a relationship, and seems to accept that people grow and change - as emphasized by her watching her ex from the window, who decided to have a child after vowing not to. To view it as pessimistic would assume this thematic revelation (that we are constantly in a state of development, with opportunities to grow and change directions on life paths at any point) to be one Trier is letting us in on, and allowing side characters to engage in, and… alienating only the star from. Man, that would be some harsh judgment for her! And go against all movie logic of punishing its star (this isn’t a Haneke film)- not to mention assuming she’s not grasping the information we are whilst we are fed it during an invitation into her point of view, which makes no sense.

You’re right, it doesn’t have to be wholly optimistic, but your assumptions of what this “represents” are rigidly diagnostic for a scene taking place in the indistinct future, for a person who looks relatively stable and content with her life from a distance. My reading of optimism is broad and full of possibility, you’re spelling out what is deliberately being left open.
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I'm very surprised that not only isn't this the UHD title for the month but is apparently from a 2K digital master. The most in-depth technical details I can find suggest it was filmed on 35mm with select takes done in 4K digital with Arriscan.
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Very excited for the deleted scenes- At a running time of over two hours, I imagine this film simply needed material cut to make it more digestible rather than said material being diagnosed as ill-fitting fluff that belonged on the cutting room floor. I rarely have high hopes for this kind of extra but I’m expecting gems
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This'll be worth it for the on-set footage of the frozen segment alone - during my first watch I thought "I have to know how they did this," so thanks to Criterion for reading my mind.
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I have no idea if, rights wise, there could have ever been a chance, but I was hoping this would be part of a release containing all three of the Oslo trilogy. I guess Worst Person is more than popular enough that making it a separate release makes more financial sense ... and there's always the chance of a release of the trilogy later down the line.

Wonderful film, full of such beautifully drawn, three-dimensional characters. And, on top of everything else, a killer soundtrack!
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soundchaser wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:06 pm This'll be worth it for the on-set footage of the frozen segment alone - during my first watch I thought "I have to know how they did this," so thanks to Criterion for reading my mind.
The NY Times has one of their "Anatomy of a Scene" videos with Trier talking about this.
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The forum will be happy to hear that Olivia Rodrigo is apparently a big fan.

(Which makes sense — I could see this resonating really well with Gen Z.)
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