909 Night of the Living Dead

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#126 Post by tenia » Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:51 pm

"includes never-before-seen, exclusive animated scenes not found in the original live-action film."
It might be because English isn't my native language but I read this multiple times and can't help thinking "that seems normal that those animated scenes couldn't be found in the live action film since, you know, it was entirely live action."

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#127 Post by Feego » Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:08 pm

It's not your English. It's a stupidly written sentence that confused me too. What I think they are trying to say is that, instead of being a scene-for-scene remake, it will include new scenes not based on any in the original film.

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#128 Post by tenia » Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:07 am

That's my guess too.

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#129 Post by Orlac » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:25 am

I bet you they do nothing more interesting than animate Ben's story of Bleecklen's Diner.

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#130 Post by swo17 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:47 am


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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#131 Post by Roscoe » Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:52 am

Well, we'll see what the reviews and those who know say, but I'm not sure how much of an upgrade it's going to be. How much better can it look than it does on that Blu-Ray?

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#132 Post by ryannichols7 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:52 am

this is potentially that forthcoming SDR UHD..no Dolby Vision listed but it could be HDR10. I'm sure someone will email criterion and get an answer

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#133 Post by Finch » Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:56 pm

If there is not even HDR, I wonder if they are reluctant to apply it because Romero is not there to approve it. And if it is indeed SDR only, I think the existing Blu-Ray will do fine for me.

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#134 Post by ryannichols7 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:03 pm

this isn't like the Kino titles they did SDR on where almost all of them previously had issues on BD (this includes Criterion's own Great Escape) - NOTLD very specifically already has a very good BD from this very same company, so if this is purely an SDR upgrade I can't imagine the difference will be that immense, and will be a bit disappointing.

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#135 Post by swo17 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:25 pm

Could the compression on Criterion's BD be noticeably improved upon?

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#136 Post by Ribs » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:06 pm

Seeing as Kino’s HDRless upgrades of The Great Escape and The Apartment are all head and shoulders above their relatively well recieved BDs and Lee Kline’s own reluctance about the format’s percieved improvements, I will give a benefit of the doubt that they’ve done their research and found it a substantive upgrade.

Also it would not surprise me if this turns out like Virgin Suicides where it does have a grade but whoever is approving the copy feels it is restrained enough to not warrant being mentioned, which could be in response to the way Citizen Kane was recieved (or not! Just a theory!)

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#137 Post by EddieLarkin » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:29 pm

Confirmed as SDR only, via email to a Blu-ray.com poster.

Seems to me this is a cash in release more than anything, NotLD was no doubt a big seller for them on BD. That said the caps will be interesting, barely passable compression isn't always apparent until you have something to compare it to.

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#138 Post by andyli » Wed Jul 20, 2022 12:48 am

Not using HDR (actually a package that combines high dynamic range and wide color gamut and 10 bit color depth) is more forgivable on a black-and-white film. The gamut gain means nothing to it anyway. Depending on the photography techniques and aesthetic choices of the director and the DoP, the high light may not yield sufficient new detail to justify the re-grade, either.

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#139 Post by jsteffe » Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:11 am

I'm very happy with the Blu-ray, which was a revelation when it came out, but I'm curious to see if UHD yields improvements in the handling of grain. It seems likely that it will.

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#140 Post by MichaelB » Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:48 am

Ribs wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:06 pm
Seeing as Kino’s HDRless upgrades of The Great Escape and The Apartment are all head and shoulders above their relatively well recieved BDs and Lee Kline’s own reluctance about the format’s percieved improvements, I will give a benefit of the doubt that they’ve done their research and found it a substantive upgrade.
Or cynically calculated (although I'd doubtless have made the same decision) that the market for a 4K NOTLD is so clearly out there that people will buy it even if it's pretty much identical to the Blu-ray.
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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#141 Post by Finch » Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:55 pm

Criterion confirmed the UHD edition will come in a 3 disc Scanavo case. Maybe there'll be an actual booklet this time and the poster.

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#142 Post by black&huge » Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:07 am

Finch wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:55 pm
Criterion confirmed the UHD edition will come in a 3 disc Scanavo case. Maybe there'll be an actual booklet this time and the poster.
And now I'm surely hanging onto the blu for the digipak

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#143 Post by Finch » Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:16 pm

Studio Canal are going to release NOTLD in Europe (French and German editions announced so far) and reportedly with HDR10.

EDIT: worth bearing in mind that the Studio Canal release is reportedly from different sources, a 35mm print from the UK and a dupe negative, while the MoMA restoration Criterion used was from the original camera negative. The comparison between the two 4k releases should be interesting!

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#144 Post by Finch » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:13 pm

Arthaus have put up the source specs for the German UHD which will be sourced from the same restoration as the Criterion, with no HDR. I haven't seen any word yet about the French edition.

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Re: 909 Night of the Living Dead

#145 Post by Orlac » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:14 am

Harry Knowles reacts with his usual calm dignity to the 30th Anniversary Edition - http://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/4397
Every week, for the first 6 years of my life, I watched NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD projected in 16mm. It was the first film that I had memorized
Wait, so his parents put newly born Harry in front of NOTLD and then repeated it for 6 years????

Guess that explans why he's....all messed up.

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