Jean Renoir

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Re: Jean Renoir

#126 Post by Brian C » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:02 pm

Haha, Chicagoshaming. That actually sounds like fun - I don't own a car and rely entirely on the CTA for transit around the city, so I'm well-positioned to Chicagoshame just about anyone. Despite not having a car I can even parallel park if the need arises!

All in good fun, though.

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#127 Post by NABOB OF NOWHERE » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:37 am

The Studio Canal blu of Le Crime de Monsieur Lange has english and german subs.

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#128 Post by tenia » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:48 am

Note however that the restoration was performed in 4K from a counter-type and the result is technically very limited.
Most of the movie is very soft, some shots are just plain blurry, and a couple are even worse than that (there is a shot at the 11th minute which looks overblown, with the action seemingly taking place behind a veil of frozen grain and a crapload of scratches). Others shots look smooth, and the light black level doesn't help.

To sum up : it's complicated.

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#129 Post by dda1996a » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:33 am

Where can one watch Night at the Crossroads? Can't find it anywhere

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#130 Post by connor » Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:36 pm

dda1996a wrote:Where can one watch Night at the Crossroads? Can't find it anywhere
I remember downloading a pretty poor-looking torrent a few years back. A few months later, a DVD was released, I bought it but it seems as if it was actually just a DVD-R of this original, pretty-low quality AVI file.

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#131 Post by Lost Highway » Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:56 pm

connor wrote:
dda1996a wrote:Where can one watch Night at the Crossroads? Can't find it anywhere
I remember downloading a pretty poor-looking torrent a few years back. A few months later, a DVD was released, I bought it but it seems as if it was actually just a DVD-R of this original, pretty-low quality AVI file.
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#132 Post by david hare » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:52 pm

tenia wrote:Note however that the restoration was performed in 4K from a counter-type and the result is technically very limited.
Most of the movie is very soft, some shots are just plain blurry, and a couple are even worse than that (there is a shot at the 11th minute which looks overblown, with the action seemingly taking place behind a veil of frozen grain and a crapload of scratches). Others shots look smooth, and the light black level doesn't help.

To sum up : it's complicated.
The very worst couple of shots you mention are in fact material not previously seen in any earlier copies and are restored (quite possibly) from 16mm. The thing is they swing straight back into high rez, high contrast master shots. I felt they could have done more work on it personally, but if you believe the young guy from Canal who introduced it at Bologna last year (only in French) they were overwhlemed with problems. To which I would answer "this aint the first fucking film with no O-neg or even Lavender/fine grain, take the time to get it as good as possible."

Anyway it's screening at the big Sydney event in May, Cinema Reborn: Better link here:: https://cinemareborn.wordpress.com/full-program/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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#133 Post by tenia » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:48 pm

david hare wrote:The very worst couple of shots you mention are in fact material not previously seen in any earlier copies and are restored (quite possibly) from 16mm.
The issue mostly is that they look extremely digital (and the color-timing is also very different from the rest of the movie), so it's not just a question of using a different source, but how it was conformed to the rest of the movie (IMO).

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#134 Post by david hare » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:57 am

Hmm they didnt look like that when I saw it in June last year. Sounds like aan encoding issue. Have you watched the DCP?

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#135 Post by tenia » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:54 am

I haven't, I have only watched the BD.

Here are some caps, the last 4 are from the scene I'm talking about which takes place at the 11th minute.
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#136 Post by andyli » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:02 am

There is a BD for this?

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#137 Post by connor » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:20 pm

andyli wrote:There is a BD for this?
I wasn't aware it was out. Where could I pick it up?

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#138 Post by tenia » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:35 pm

It's out in France but is currently only sold through Fnac.com.

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#139 Post by L.A. » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:46 pm

Does Fnac.com ship overseas?

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#140 Post by david hare » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:59 pm

tenia wrote:I haven't, I have only watched the BD.

Here are some caps, the last 4 are from the scene I'm talking about which takes place at the 11th minute.
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Thx Remy, the last four with Nadia Siborskaia are from the first example of prevously missing material the shot is not in the old Classique Canal DVD from the Renoir boxset for instance. This is pretty well what they looked liked at the DCP screening and I thought at the time they must have been harvested from totally different film stock (like 16mm dupe.) As I have said, I really thought the restoration needed some further work, but obviously didn't get it. Not a deal breaker but it's annoying.

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#141 Post by tenia » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:48 am

L.A. wrote:Does Fnac.com ship overseas?
They do, but it's expensive. What I found for US deliveries is that it's DHL only, 2 days delivery, but 15€ + 1.85€ per article of shipping fees.

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#142 Post by andyli » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:52 am

Given it's Studio Canal and the fact that English/German subs are present, it's bound to get a wider release later, yes?

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#143 Post by L.A. » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:18 am

tenia wrote:They do, but it's expensive. What I found for US deliveries is that it's DHL only, 2 days delivery, but 15€ + 1.85€ per article of shipping fees.
Thanks for that. Actually I’m located in Finland but probably the delivery here is still expensive as well. Hopefully Amazon.fr stocks it soon.

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#144 Post by Rayon Vert » Sun May 13, 2018 3:08 pm

There are Spanish blu-rays available of Toni and La Marseillaise - has anyone seen them and can you vouch for their quality?

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#145 Post by GoodOldNeon » Fri May 18, 2018 7:22 am

In preparation for the Jean Renoir List Project starting next month, I picked up the French Blu-ray of The Golden Coach, and it is a huge upgrade over the Digital Classics Region 2 DVD I picked up before I knew the French Blu-ray existed. The English-language version on the Blu-ray has French subtitles which one reviewer was able to remove on his machine; I wasn't, but I was able to move the subtitles off the screen by changing the subtitle position, and when I made a backup copy with MakeMKV I was able to drop the subtitles from the file.

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